Socialized Healthcare?

lazymoon13

GTFLYGIRL wrote:

Family, huh? Private school,huh?

But you don't see how you are more privileged than many, many others?

You really are VERY short-sighted.

I paid for my own private school. keep in mind you know NOTHING about me. and yes I have a family. I dont think im in the minority.

prism

lazymoon13 wrote:

is fun making shit up to fit your argument huh?

:rolleyes:


how is stating a fact making shit up?

lazymoon13

scb wrote:

Just because you pay taxes doesn't mean you can dictate that others who pay taxes - or who will or have - shouldn't benefit from universal healthcare.

and you shouldnt be able to dictate that I be forced into a UHC system, seriously, who the fuck are you?

I

scb wrote:

pay taxes too. So I paid for your use of the public library - or whatever - and maybe I didn't want to. By your logic, that means you've stolen my money.

absolutely!

scb wrote:

You don't get to have everything your way just because you pay taxes if I don't get to have everything my way because I pay taxes.

how about the people who don't? like commy. why should he get a say? no not a say? why should he get to demand I pay for him.

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lazymoon13 wrote:

I never said they couldn't use roads or a library. did I ? and btw, healthcare is more expensive then roads so dont even bother.

how bout commy? he openly admits to not paying taxes. o its ok. we'll let him slid just this once.

You've never proven that he's abusing the system. But, even if he is, it's worth dealing with if it means providing healthcare to the millions of Americans who do pay taxes and who fall into the lazymoon13 category of who deserves care.

lazymoon13

prism wrote:

:rolleyes:


how is stating a fact making shit up?

just because you say something doesnt make it fact. ahhh only on the moving train.

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lazymoon13 wrote:

there are also many who do have access to healthcare via their workplace. those people who don't, have other options.

What other options?!

Dylan Stone

lazymoon13 wrote:

I paid for my own private school. keep in mind you know NOTHING about me. and yes I have a family. I dont think im in the minority.

If you had enough money to pay for private kindergarten yourself......
News Flash. You are fare more privileged than others.

I know that you said you didn't come from a privileged background!

lazymoon13

GTFLYGIRL wrote:

If you had enough money to pay for private kindergarten yourself......
News Flash. You are fare more privileged than others.

I know that you said you didn't come from a privileged background!

ever hear of home schooling?

lazymoon13

scb wrote:

What other options?!

educating themselves.

Dylan Stone

lazymoon13 wrote:

ever hear of home schooling?

Oh...I guess it was a little confusing as a few posts back you stated you paid for your own private school.

OK. Well I guess the home schooling would explain the egocentric attitude and the lack of understanding of what is happening societally.

Abookamongstthemany

lazymoon13 wrote:

educating themselves.

there will always be the poor, those born into poverty, those that fall through the cracks and those that make mistakes.

You don't just shrug your shoulders while others suffer.

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lazymoon13 wrote:

I'll do and say and judge whoever I want?

Clearly. I'm just saying you're wrong and you haven't proven differently.

lazymoon13 wrote:

lose the fucking attitude.

Oh, HELL no!!

I believe you're the one who invited the attitude.

lazymoon13 wrote:

I can make up numbers and %'s too. but then you would just call me a lair.

If you're accusing me of making up stats or you're asking for sources, why don't you just say that and I'll gladly provide them. Please be direct. If you're going to accuse people of dishonesty, don't be weak about it.

lazymoon13 wrote:

sorry I don't support stupidity and irresponsibility.

It's clear that you wouldn't recognize stupidity or irresponsibility if it were staring at you in the mirror.

lazymoon13 wrote:

if you cant take on the responsibility of having children, dont have sex.

I truly hope you have a wife who shares your beliefs.

prism

lazymoon13 wrote:

just because you say something doesnt make it fact. ahhh only on the moving train.

The percentage of all employers offering health insurance in the past eight years peaked in 2000 at 69% and has fallen steadily since, hitting 60% this year, according to an annual survey of employers by the non-partisan Kaiser Family Foundation. Among small firms of three to nine workers, the percentage offering insurance has dropped even more — from 58% in 2001 to 45% this year.

•From 2001 to 2005, the number of uninsured U.S. workers rose by 3.4 million. Almost 19 million workers — 17% of all employees — were uninsured in 2005, according to the Kaiser Commission on Medicaid and the Uninsured.



http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/insurance/2007-11-12-social-net_N.htm

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lazymoon13 wrote:

I paid for my own private school. keep in mind you know NOTHING about me. and yes I have a family. I dont think im in the minority.

You paid for your own private school since you were 5 years old?! :eek:

Please, do tell us about yourself. Seriously.

lazymoon13

GTFLYGIRL wrote:

Oh...I guess it was a little confusing as a few posts back you stated you paid for your own private school.

OK. Well I guess the home schooling would explain the egocentric attitude and the lack of understanding of what is happening societally.

never said I was home schooled. just asked if you heard of it.

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lazymoon13 wrote:

absolutely!

Then it's time to pay me back. Please make all checks payable to UHC...

lazymoon13 wrote:

how about the people who don't? like commy. why should he get a say? no not a say? why should he get to demand I pay for him.

Why do we keep talking about Commy when we don't really know his circumstances?

I'm talking about me. I want universal healthcare. And I pay taxes just like you do so your desires are no more valid than mine.

lazymoon13

prism wrote:

The percentage of all employers offering health insurance in the past eight years peaked in 2000 at 69% and has fallen steadily since, hitting 60% this year, according to an annual survey of employers by the non-partisan Kaiser Family Foundation. Among small firms of three to nine workers, the percentage offering insurance has dropped even more — from 58% in 2001 to 45% this year.

•From 2001 to 2005, the number of uninsured U.S. workers rose by 3.4 million. Almost 19 million workers — 17% of all employees — were uninsured in 2005, according to the Kaiser Commission on Medicaid and the Uninsured.



http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/insurance/2007-11-12-social-net_N.htm

so people can try and find work at an employer who offers health coverage? cool

lazymoon13

scb wrote:

Why do we keep talking about Commy when we don't really know his circumstances?

he admitted to not paying taxes.

scb wrote:

I'm talking about me. I want universal healthcare. And I pay taxes just like you do so your desires are no more valid than mine.

feel free to send your own money to the IRS and ask them to pay for my healthcare. I wont accept but the option is yours.

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lazymoon13 wrote:

educating themselves.

I'm pretty sure stay-at-home-to-educate-my-kids moms don't pay income taxes either.

Regardless, anyone who has the resources to do this is necessarily privileged.

Dylan Stone

lazymoon13 wrote:

never said I was home schooled. just asked if you heard of it.

GTFLYGIRL wrote:

If you had enough money to pay for private kindergarten yourself......
News Flash. You are fare more privileged than others.

I know that you said you didn't come from a privileged background!

So...as stated...You DO come from privilege!

Anyone who pays for an entire life of private school in a country where they don't need to...and who intentionally bypasses the Stafford Loans...MUST come from a lot more of a privileged background than you believe you do.

So THAT explains your egocentric attitude.

It's yours...so you might as well own it!