Maximum Wage

audome25

farfromglorified wrote:

It does too take a village. Parents cannot be expected to shoulder the burden of their children alone. Those children are your responsibility too! The children are our future.

exactly. ban anything that can be used as a weapon, hold the things accountable! Not the people!

bootlegger10

This thread scares me more than terrorism and wars. It is unreal that people in 2006 still can think like this. Communism and socialism don't work. A wage limit only limits innovation and growth. Take an economics class folks. Quit living in a dreamworld. You may like your theory on paper, but in reality it won't work.

farfromglorified

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

Do any advocates of this plan make over $50,000 right now?

How is that relevant? We're doing this for everyone. That's what "common good" means! And if you're not willing to sacrifice, compromise and cooperate for the common good, you must be selfish. And that's just greedy.

Sounds like people who did not plan their careers well want a magic escalation in pay!

No! We don't want to be paid more. We want you to be paid less. What right do you have to earn so much more than the rest of us? We work hard too!

bootlegger10

farfromglorified wrote:

It does too take a village. Parents cannot be expected to shoulder the burden of their children alone. Those children are your responsibility too! The children are our future.

Hey, if people stopped fuckign around with whomever they wanted and actually worked on their marriages, then they might be able to raise their children. It is not my responsibility to raise selfish peoples' children.

Cree Nations

Pacomc79 wrote:

why stop there? Why not just go to a standard wage regardless of job so no one feels inferior?

Let's just pay everyone 50K a year for working any job?

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farfromglorified

bootlegger10 wrote:

This thread scares me more than terrorism and wars. It is unreal that people in 2006 still can think like this.

Really? Terrorism only exists because of capitalism. Your greed is what caused 9/11. You don't see muslim extremists attacking Cuba, do you?

Communism and socialism don't work. A wage limit only limits innovation and growth. Take an economics class folks. Quit living in a dreamworld. You may like your theory on paper, but in reality it won't work.

It will work because we want it to work. Innovation and growth come from an innate human desire to learn and to build. The beautiful thing is, those people won't be able to help themselves. They have to grow, they have to innovate. It's engrained in them. And if they try to do it in secret, we'll find out.

bootlegger10

farfromglorified wrote:

How is that relevant? We're doing this for everyone. That's what "common good" means! And if you're not willing to sacrifice, compromise and cooperate for the common good, you must be selfish. And that's just greedy.



No! We don't want to be paid more. We want you to be paid less. What right do you have to earn so much more than the rest of us? We work hard too!

Get an education. Work your way up towards success. That is the American dream. You are paid based on how much it would cost to replace you. It is tougher to replace an engineer than a janitor. Economics.

farfromglorified

Pacomc79 wrote:

why stop there? Why not just go to a standard wage regardless of job so no one feels inferior?

Let's just pay everyone 50K a year for working any job?

That's a pretty good idea, but there's going to be some problems with that. Let's just take it slow here.

farfromglorified

audome25 wrote:

exactly. ban anything that can be used as a weapon, hold the things accountable! Not the people!

Exactly!!! People are just victims of their circumstances. They have no control. Change the circumstances and you own the people.

jeffbr

ffg, have you caught your limit yet? This thread is making my smile muscles hurt.

LikeAnOcean

hmmm.. how about minimum salary 25k and a maximum 100k??? That seems reasonable. As long as you atleast work, you get just enough to get by, and if you work hard and are successful, you get up to four times that.

farfromglorified

bootlegger10 wrote:

Hey, if people stopped fuckign around with whomever they wanted and actually worked on their marriages, then they might be able to raise their children. It is not my responsibility to raise selfish peoples' children.

How dare you refuse the children!?!? Plus, those people didn't want to get pregnant so it's not their fault.

farfromglorified

bootlegger10 wrote:

Get an education.

But what about the poor? They can't get an education unless you stop being so selfish and give it to them. You're holding their education ransom to line your own pockets!!! There's only so much education available in this world and you fat cats are hogging it all.

Work your way up towards success. That is the American dream.

The American dream is to turn wishes in to reality. That's how dreams work.

You are paid based on how much it would cost to replace you.

Is that how you see people? As replaceable cogs??? People have a right to their jobs and you have no right to say otherwise.

It is tougher to replace an engineer than a janitor.

It's only tough because engineers demand so much money! Now the janitors will be on equal footing.

Economics.

That's a relic of the past.

Cree Nations

farfromglorified wrote:

But what about the poor? They can't get an education unless you stop being so selfish and give it to them. You're holding their education ransom to line your own pockets!!! There's only so much education available in this world and you fat cats are hogging it all.



The American dream is to turn wishes in to reality. That's how dreams work.



Is that how you see people? As replaceable cogs??? People have a right to their jobs and you have no right to say otherwise.



It's only tough because engineers demand so much money! Now the janitors will be on equal footing.



That's a relic of the past.

Why havent I read your posts before?
Real good stuff.

bootlegger10

farfromglorified wrote:

That's a relic of the past.

No it is reality. Look to the past and you'll see your ideas will only fail.

bootlegger10

farfromglorified wrote:

How dare you refuse the children!?!? Plus, those people didn't want to get pregnant so it's not their fault.

They aren't my children.

farfromglorified

bootlegger10 wrote:

No it is reality.

Reality is whatever I force it to be. People told me about that "economics" stuff when I put the minimum wage in place. And look at it now -- people who make the minimum wage are in great shape except now they can't get an education because you're holding that ransom just like you were holding their rightful wage ransom.

mwachsman

jeffbr wrote:

ffg, have you caught your limit yet? This thread is making my smile muscles hurt.

Lol, mine too.

soulsinging

farfromglorified wrote:

Reality is whatever I force it to be. People told me about that "economics" stuff when I put the minimum wage in place. And look at it now -- people who make the minimum wage are in great shape except now they can't get an education because you're holding that ransom just like you were holding their rightful wage ransom.

now you're just a charicature. i could easily do a similarly ridiculous extreme about how you're entitled to be richer than god, pay people pennies (kinda like taiwan maybe?) and if people starve... well, they shoulda worked harder and done better in school. we both know it's not quite that simple.

farfromglorified

bootlegger10 wrote:

They aren't my children.

Prove it, philosophically.

How are they not your children?