Australian Federal Election 24 November 2007

Zoso

who supported Nelson in the party? I assumed Turnball was a shoe-in for the top liberal job. In my opinion Liberals are weaker than Labor was when Rudd became the leader of labor. Without Howard they are nothing. Well done to Rudd by the way. My vote did count.

Jeanie

Zoso wrote:

who supported Nelson in the party? I assumed Turnball was a shoe-in for the top liberal job. In my opinion Liberals are weaker than Labor was when Rudd became the leader of labor. Without Howard they are nothing. Well done to Rudd by the way. My vote did count.

I was very surprised that they chose Nelson over Turnbull.
Can't see how it's going to work to be honest. Strange times ahead.

lucylespian

Zoso wrote:

who supported Nelson in the party? I assumed Turnball was a shoe-in for the top liberal job. In my opinion Liberals are weaker than Labor was when Rudd became the leader of labor. Without Howard they are nothing. Well done to Rudd by the way. My vote did count.

I see Nelson as being a sacrifice here. The next leader after a rout like this usually doesn't get far. There is too much acrimony and pissing, and my guess is he will go well before the next election. You don't want to put someone that you really want to keep in at ther moment. You put someone up to take a fall, so the guy you really want can come in once some stability returns.
Mind you, I don't think anyone is thinking that far ahead. Seriously, from a party that could not see that Howard's time had passed, don't expect smart or rational behaviour.

Zoso

I personally don't think there is anyone in the Liberals that I can see being the PM.

catefrances

i was talking to my da tonight and ironically he voted liberal for the first time and the liberal candidate in his electorate lost his seat. i resisted the urge to laugh.

NoK

catefrances wrote:

i was talking to my da tonight and ironically he voted liberal for the first time and the liberal candidate in his electorate lost his seat. i resisted the urge to laugh.

It would of been really hard not to laugh at that.

Now all you have to do is convince him to continue voting for them

catefrances

NoK wrote:

It would of been really hard not to laugh at that.

Now all you have to do is convince him to continue voting for them

sorry but that ain't gonna happen. where do you think i got my opinionated stubborness from?

NoK

catefrances wrote:

sorry but that ain't gonna happen. where do you think i got my opinionated stubborness from?

But if it meant them losing surely you should at least give it a try

catefrances

NoK wrote:

But if it meant them losing surely you should at least give it a try

well theyve already lost, so my work is done.

Austicman

Jeanie wrote:

I was very surprised that they chose Nelson over Turnbull.
Can't see how it's going to work to be honest. Strange times ahead.

Nelson come out this morning supporting an apology to the Koorie's, ratifing Kyoto and him and Joe Hockey have agrred to a roll back in Workchoices.........................I'm scared..........

NoK

Austicman wrote:

Nelson come out this morning supporting an apology to the Koorie's, ratifing Kyoto and him and Joe Hockey have agrred to a roll back in Workchoices.........................I'm scared..........

Are you sure.. I've read on thursday he disagrees with an apology "this generation shouldn't apologise for something a previous generation did".. he also disagreed with rolling back work choices.. only thing he agreed with was kyoto.. ill be damned if they managed to changed their mind this much in half a day

catefrances

NoK wrote:

Are you sure.. I've read on thursday he disagrees with an apology "this generation shouldn't apologise for something a previous generation did".. he also disagreed with rolling back work choices.. only thing he agreed with was kyoto.. ill be damned if they managed to changed their mind this much in half a day

hmm well perish the thought that a current generation see a wrong and try to right it. bloody politicians.

NoK

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/sorry-issue-splits-libs/2007/11/30/1196037125789.html

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/nelsons-victory-puts-turnbull-on-deck/2007/11/29/1196037074481.html

NoK

catefrances wrote:

hmm well perish the thought that a current generation see a wrong and try to right it. bloody politicians.

Well you know in my case I don't have anything to apologise about my father flew here he didnt grow here!

catefrances

NoK wrote:

Well you know in my case I don't have anything to apologise about my father flew here he didnt grow here!

what the hell has that got to do with anything? you're australian aren't you? you can see that the indigenous peoples were treated horrendously. and im sure you can see what an apology for/acknowledgement of previous wrongs(even though 'we' didn't do anything) admission would represent.

NoK

catefrances wrote:

what the hell has that got to do with anything? you're australian aren't you? you can see that the indigenous peoples were treated horrendously. and im sure you can see what an apology for/acknowledgement of previous wrongs(even though 'we' didn't do anything) admission would represent.

I was joking! I was trying to echo "we didn't do it so we don't need to apologize" bit.

catefrances

NoK wrote:

I was joking! I was trying to echo "we didn't do it so we don't need to apologize" bit.

yep i got that too late.

NoK

catefrances wrote:

yep i got that too late.

Well nothing a beer or scotch can't remedy

catefrances

NoK wrote:

Well nothing a beer or scotch can't remedy

not to mention a rockin' live band.

Jeanie

Austicman wrote:

Nelson come out this morning supporting an apology to the Koorie's, ratifing Kyoto and him and Joe Hockey have agrred to a roll back in Workchoices.........................I'm scared..........

Last I saw of him was last night on the ABC where they'd put together a piece with file footage of him saying repeatedly whilst head of the AMA that he would NEVER vote LIBERAL!!! hahahaha!

He also said that he felt there was nothing to apologize for???

So maybe he's changed his tune over night again?