Surely you agree this is purely political? Otherwise, why have they waited until now to bust this nugget out?
And for what it's worth, no, it's not true. They're not friends. I think Obama should have been smarter and if he had higher political ambitions that any association with him would have been a liability, and I have no love for Bill Ayers, but it's a ludicrous claim nonetheless, and it reeks of desperation stemming from nothing else the McCain camp has tried working against Obama.
All I can think is that finally, Sean Hannity has a reason to talk about Bill Ayers. For months, he's been throwing him into discussions about higher taxes and health care.
whats absurd is to link the two. to suggest obama is a radical is an insult and slap in the face to me and many others who realistically think of themselves as radical thinkers and activists.
Obama and Ayers couldnt be more different. While obama believes change happens through him basically and by using the political system ayers thought, at least in the 1960's and 1970's and recently as Sept 11 2001 that the only way change can happen is through radical activism and struggle.
I have an extremly hard time believing ayers is voting obama in 08.
Well, you know, although Ayers and Obama lived in different states, and Obama was about eight when Ayers was up to his reprehensible acts, that's no excuse to say that Obama isn't a terrorist. He could be a terrorist. He could also be Tinkerbell. He's guilty until proven innocent, and that's tricks. Dirty tricks. But, tricks nonetheless. After all, dirty tricks are what you pull when you've got nothing else left.
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“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Well, you know, although Ayers and Obama lived in different states, and Obama was about eight when Ayers was up to his reprehensible acts, that's no excuse to say that Obama isn't a terrorist. He could be a terrorist. He could also be Tinkerbell. He's guilty until proven innocent, and that's tricks. Dirty tricks. But, tricks nonetheless. After all, dirty tricks are what you pull when you've got nothing else left.
Yeah, when you can't run on your party's record, can't run on the economy, can't run on an unpopular war, can't run on really any domestic issues, I guess all that you have left is a sideshow VP pick and character assassination.
Country first my ass... more like partisan divisiveness.
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“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Is it sadder that McCain's new strategy seems to amount to slandering Obama and the Democrats in an effort to change people's opinion, or sadder that this effectively states McCain believes that running a campaign on your own record and integrity wouldn't change many voters minds?
Perhaps it's sadder that the latter might actually be true.
So, while I don't begrudge McCain for running douche-bag political ads or making dubious ad hominem attacks, I still hate them. Unfortunately, it could be impossible to win an election without them. And if it turns out that these attacks cost one candidate the election, it might be more fair to blame the idiots whose opinions were changed by distorted claims and half-truths.
I challenge any of the Neocons and Palin apologists to explain who the Weather Underground were and what they stood for. That was a time when our country was engaging in illegal wars in Cambodia and carpet bombing of North Vietnam. Richard Nixon was President and he and his crew made the Weathermen look like choirboys. Nixon used the FBI like his private Pinkertons to persecute people like Martin Luther King, John Lennon, and thousands of other innocents. Ayers was never convicted and most of his crimes are purely conjecture. His relationship with Obama is a non-starter that is being used as a last ditch effort from the McCain camp.
The Obama camp should bring out McCain's gambling habit that he indulged in at the same time he strong armed legislation on behalf of Indian Casinos, and then won hundreds of thousands of dollars in those same casinos right after. That could have an impact on the campaign.
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These are the sorts of people he chooses to be his friends, just imagine the sorts of people he would surround himself with to help him lead the free world. We need someone of good judgment in the White House, not a friend of terrorists, convicted felons and racist America haters. We have no evidence at all that he would suddenly change the sorts of people he would associate himself with, so we see what sort of individual he would have on his cabinet and in close advisory positions. And as a man that has voted against protecting children that have the audacity to survive a late term abortion, we would see what sort of judicial nominees he will be appointing.
Flame away followers....
Since you believe he has friends that are terriosts, felons and racist America haters. Well pack up and look for another country to live if you think he's that terrible for this country.
It appears to me to be nothing more than fear tactics that WILL work on the weak minded but not those who take a closer well sorted out look at who he is and what he stands for on what would affect directly on those peoples lives.
I do believe you'll still live be here so deal with it when he becomes the next President. I know I'll have to deal with it too.
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Wrote about each of these earlier in the thread ...
Wright ... again, I can see a lot of people being scared off by this guy ... but, playing the several degrees of separation, linking Farrakhan to Obama is wrong. People have taken three clips from Wright's sermons and made it out to be his entire character over how ever many decades he's been preaching. From many accounts, Obama as a community organizer and Wright have done a lot of good for the underprivlidged in Chicago. I don't agree with the guy, but, a few youtube clips does not a person make.
That said, Obama has denounced the hate speech ... McCain had his own issues with Pastor Hagee, the guy who said Katrina was retribution for homosexuality and that the Catholic church worked with the Nazis during the halocaust. He wasn't McCain's long time pastor, but, McCain was buddy buddy with the guy. Do I think McCain feels the way Hagee does? No, not at all.
Rezko ... the guy is dirt, but, Obama gave back all the contributions this guy made to his campaign ... I worte about how getting the discounted loan on the Obama's place in Chicago seems a little fishy ... but, McCain got some favoratisim when he landed that cushy liason job in Washington after the service, and hand picked where to live in Arizona based on the easiest spot to start a political career. And he's got his Keating 5 skeletons too.
Ayers ... I think people are putting way too much stock behind this ... for the record, the piece you site is an opinion piece, not reporting. Many news outlets have tried to dig into the Ayers Obama relationship, and nothing close to a friendship has come up.
Your best statement was this ... "A politicians first choices are who they choose to surround themselves with" .. yeah, they hang out with other politicians, so they are ALL suspect.
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Sorry to disappoint, but as usual, you're just plain wrong. The only hater here is you.
You may have an opinion about someone, but opinion doesn't change what may or may not be true about someone. And people on CNN aren't proof either.
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I challenge all of you to find someone like Bill Ayers linked to McCain. Doesn't even have to be a "friend" of his, just a link.
I pledge to you a government that will not only work well, but wisely, its ability to act tempered by prudence, and its willingness to do good, balanced by the knowledge that government is never more dangerous than when our desire to have it help us blinds us to its great power to harm us.
-Reagan
I challenge all of you to find someone like Bill Ayers linked to McCain. Doesn't even have to be a "friend" of his, just a link.
G. Gordon Liddy
Liddy served four and a half years in prison in connection with his conviction for his role in the Watergate break-in and the break-in at the office of the psychiatrist of Daniel Ellsberg, the military analyst who leaked the Pentagon Papers. Liddy has acknowledged preparing to kill someone during the Ellsberg break-in "if necessary"; plotting to murder journalist Jack Anderson; plotting with a "gangland figure" to murder Howard Hunt to stop him from cooperating with investigators; plotting to firebomb the Brookings Institution; and plotting to kidnap "leftist guerillas" at the 1972 Republican National Convention -- a plan he outlined to the Nixon administration using terminology borrowed from the Nazis. (The murder, firebombing, and kidnapping plots were never carried out; the break-ins were.) During the 1990s, Liddy reportedly instructed his radio audience on multiple occasions on how to shoot Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms agents and also reportedly said he had named his shooting targets after Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Liddy has donated $5,000 to McCain's campaigns since 1998, including $1,000 in February 2008. In addition, McCain has appeared on Liddy's radio show during the presidential campaign, including as recently as May. An online video labeled "John McCain On The G. Gordon Liddy Show 11/8/07" includes a discussion between Liddy and McCain, whom Liddy described as an "old friend." During the segment, McCain praised Liddy's "adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great," said he was "proud" of Liddy, and said that "it's always a pleasure for me to come on your program."
Additionally, in 1998, Liddy reportedly held a fundraiser at his home for McCain. Liddy was reportedly scheduled to speak at another fundraiser for McCain in 2000. The Charlotte Observer reported on January 23, 2000, that McCain's campaign vouched for Liddy's "character":
His [McCain's] campaign officials said Liddy's character will appeal to many voters because he was following orders from President Nixon and kept silent afterward.
"His (Liddy's) judgment might be in question, but I don't think his character is," said Ed Walker, the York County chairman of McCain's campaign. "He was following orders just like any good soldier, and he didn't tell on anybody. He felt like he was on a mission and kept his silence."
Liddy's 2000 speech was reportedly canceled due to bad weather.
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I think a lot of Americans are guilt-tripped into voting for him because of what he endured in Vietnam. So many movies have been made about what went on in Vietnam POW camps that it makes Americans want to "save" the servicemen who were there.
But on the other hand, McCain has enjoyed stratospheric success in politics. When the Arizona press hammered him on the issues, all he had to do was talk about Vietnam and suddenly the press would look as bad as Jane Fonda.
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It'll also be intersting to see if Obama goes on the counter offensive ... possibly in regards to the Keating 5 scandal (some what topical) ... very doubtful in regards to his personal life (leaving wife #1 for Cindy).
Well, looks like my prediction from Friday was spot on ... and it appears the Obama campain is indeed going on the counter offensive ... the e-mail I received from the Obama camp tonight ...
~~~~~
Over the weekend, John McCain's top adviser announced their plan to stop engaging in a debate over the economy and "turn the page" to more direct, personal attacks on Barack Obama.
In the middle of the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, they want to change the subject from the central question of this election. Perhaps because the policies McCain supported these past eight years and wants to continue are pretty hard to defend.
But it's not just McCain's role in the current crisis that they're avoiding. The backward economic philosophy and culture of corruption that helped create the current crisis are looking more and more like the other major financial crisis of our time.
During the savings and loan crisis of the late '80s and early '90s, McCain's political favors and aggressive support for deregulation put him at the center of the fall of Lincoln Savings and Loan, one of the largest in the country. More than 23,000 investors lost their savings. Overall, the savings and loan crisis required the federal government to bail out the savings of hundreds of thousands of families and ultimately cost American taxpayers $124 billion.
Sound familiar?
In that crisis, John McCain and his political patron, Charles Keating, played central roles that ultimately landed Keating in jail for fraud and McCain in front of the Senate Ethics Committee. The McCain campaign has tried to avoid talking about the scandal, but with so many parallels to the current crisis, McCain's Keating history is relevant and voters deserve to know the facts -- and see for themselves the pattern of poor judgment by John McCain.
So at noon Eastern on Monday, October 6th, we're releasing a 13-minute documentary about the scandal called "Keating Economics: John McCain and the Making of a Financial Crisis" -- it will be available at KeatingEconomics.com, along with background information that every voter should know.
Watch a preview right now and share it with your friends.
The point of the film and the web site is that John McCain still hasn't learned his lesson.
And this time, McCain's bankrupt economic philosophy has put our economy at the brink of collapse and put millions of Americans at risk of losing their homes.
Watch the video to see why John McCain's failed philosophy and poor judgment is a recipe for deepening the crisis:
It's no wonder John McCain would rather spend the last month of this election smearing Barack's character instead of talking about the top priority issue for voters.
But if we work together, we can make sure the focus stays on the economy -- and how to fix it.
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"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
I think we should put out all the facts about the Keating Five (of which McCain was the only Republican) out there, including that the panel decided to put and keep a Republican in the list of those accused. Including that McCain was exonerated.
I think we should then put out all the facts about Obama and Rezko and Ayers and Wright (and not the whitewashed version, but the actual truth). Include in that Wright marrying the Obamas and baptizing his daughters after he immersed himself in the church for over a decade. Include in that the great house deal Obama received from the money launderer Rezko. And, include that Ayers was the beneficiary of funds steered by Obama, and Ayers’ living room was the launching point of Obama’s career. Include what Ayers did (build and plant bombs loaded with nails at the Pentagon and other government offices), and that he lacks remorse for this — in fact says he wished they’d have done more.
Put all that out there, and let people decide whether it’s “guilt by association” or a dangerously radical person “palling around” with terrorists and criminals. Let’s talk about Obama’s drug use too.
But the point is, get it all out there for people to see. So they can decide, and not MSNBCCNNNYTNBCABCCBSREUTERSAP etc.
Can we see Obama’s full medical records too, please?
Yeah Reuters and the AP are slanted. :rolleyes:
Funny you didn't mention Fox.
Also funny that you asked for people with questionable pasts that McCain was linked to and I provided one, then you spout off more tired propaganda about Obama.
what about McCain himself ... one who opposed MLK day and was also against the removal of the confederate flag from the SC capital. what an effing maverick.
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I don't want to be hostile. I don't want to be dismal. But I don't want to rot in an apathetic existance either.
These are the sorts of people he chooses to be his friends, just imagine the sorts of people he would surround himself with to help him lead the free world. We need someone of good judgment in the White House, not a friend of terrorists, convicted felons and racist America haters. We have no evidence at all that he would suddenly change the sorts of people he would associate himself with, so we see what sort of individual he would have on his cabinet and in close advisory positions. And as a man that has voted against protecting children that have the audacity to survive a late term abortion, we would see what sort of judicial nominees he will be appointing.
Flame away followers....
Do you only speak to people with the same beliefs as you? Do you know the background and political beliefs of everyone you've been in contact with? Say all your poker buddies perhaps? Or everyone you've ever shared a drink with? I have friends here with entirely opposing beliefs of mine and yet I'd imagine we could share MANY a drink, find things we DO agree on and discuss and debate those we don't!
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Surely you agree this is purely political? Otherwise, why have they waited until now to bust this nugget out?
And for what it's worth, no, it's not true. They're not friends. I think Obama should have been smarter and if he had higher political ambitions that any association with him would have been a liability, and I have no love for Bill Ayers, but it's a ludicrous claim nonetheless, and it reeks of desperation stemming from nothing else the McCain camp has tried working against Obama.
All I can think is that finally, Sean Hannity has a reason to talk about Bill Ayers. For months, he's been throwing him into discussions about higher taxes and health care.
Obama and Ayers couldnt be more different. While obama believes change happens through him basically and by using the political system ayers thought, at least in the 1960's and 1970's and recently as Sept 11 2001 that the only way change can happen is through radical activism and struggle.
I have an extremly hard time believing ayers is voting obama in 08.
To me the weathermen are heroes.
:rolleyes:
ummm, and what exactly is that?
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Yeah, when you can't run on your party's record, can't run on the economy, can't run on an unpopular war, can't run on really any domestic issues, I guess all that you have left is a sideshow VP pick and character assassination.
Country first my ass... more like partisan divisiveness.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
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Perhaps it's sadder that the latter might actually be true.
So, while I don't begrudge McCain for running douche-bag political ads or making dubious ad hominem attacks, I still hate them. Unfortunately, it could be impossible to win an election without them. And if it turns out that these attacks cost one candidate the election, it might be more fair to blame the idiots whose opinions were changed by distorted claims and half-truths.
The Obama camp should bring out McCain's gambling habit that he indulged in at the same time he strong armed legislation on behalf of Indian Casinos, and then won hundreds of thousands of dollars in those same casinos right after. That could have an impact on the campaign.
Since you believe he has friends that are terriosts, felons and racist America haters. Well pack up and look for another country to live if you think he's that terrible for this country.
It appears to me to be nothing more than fear tactics that WILL work on the weak minded but not those who take a closer well sorted out look at who he is and what he stands for on what would affect directly on those peoples lives.
I do believe you'll still live be here so deal with it when he becomes the next President. I know I'll have to deal with it too.
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*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Wrote about each of these earlier in the thread ...
Wright ... again, I can see a lot of people being scared off by this guy ... but, playing the several degrees of separation, linking Farrakhan to Obama is wrong. People have taken three clips from Wright's sermons and made it out to be his entire character over how ever many decades he's been preaching. From many accounts, Obama as a community organizer and Wright have done a lot of good for the underprivlidged in Chicago. I don't agree with the guy, but, a few youtube clips does not a person make.
That said, Obama has denounced the hate speech ... McCain had his own issues with Pastor Hagee, the guy who said Katrina was retribution for homosexuality and that the Catholic church worked with the Nazis during the halocaust. He wasn't McCain's long time pastor, but, McCain was buddy buddy with the guy. Do I think McCain feels the way Hagee does? No, not at all.
Rezko ... the guy is dirt, but, Obama gave back all the contributions this guy made to his campaign ... I worte about how getting the discounted loan on the Obama's place in Chicago seems a little fishy ... but, McCain got some favoratisim when he landed that cushy liason job in Washington after the service, and hand picked where to live in Arizona based on the easiest spot to start a political career. And he's got his Keating 5 skeletons too.
Ayers ... I think people are putting way too much stock behind this ... for the record, the piece you site is an opinion piece, not reporting. Many news outlets have tried to dig into the Ayers Obama relationship, and nothing close to a friendship has come up.
Your best statement was this ... "A politicians first choices are who they choose to surround themselves with" .. yeah, they hang out with other politicians, so they are ALL suspect.
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
Sorry to disappoint, but as usual, you're just plain wrong. The only hater here is you.
and now he is friends with Obama
that part. Show me some proof that they got together to watch some football today
Well Said. Unbelievable this crap. Republicans are soo fear based its funny.
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G. Gordon Liddy
Liddy served four and a half years in prison in connection with his conviction for his role in the Watergate break-in and the break-in at the office of the psychiatrist of Daniel Ellsberg, the military analyst who leaked the Pentagon Papers. Liddy has acknowledged preparing to kill someone during the Ellsberg break-in "if necessary"; plotting to murder journalist Jack Anderson; plotting with a "gangland figure" to murder Howard Hunt to stop him from cooperating with investigators; plotting to firebomb the Brookings Institution; and plotting to kidnap "leftist guerillas" at the 1972 Republican National Convention -- a plan he outlined to the Nixon administration using terminology borrowed from the Nazis. (The murder, firebombing, and kidnapping plots were never carried out; the break-ins were.) During the 1990s, Liddy reportedly instructed his radio audience on multiple occasions on how to shoot Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms agents and also reportedly said he had named his shooting targets after Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Liddy has donated $5,000 to McCain's campaigns since 1998, including $1,000 in February 2008. In addition, McCain has appeared on Liddy's radio show during the presidential campaign, including as recently as May. An online video labeled "John McCain On The G. Gordon Liddy Show 11/8/07" includes a discussion between Liddy and McCain, whom Liddy described as an "old friend." During the segment, McCain praised Liddy's "adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great," said he was "proud" of Liddy, and said that "it's always a pleasure for me to come on your program."
Additionally, in 1998, Liddy reportedly held a fundraiser at his home for McCain. Liddy was reportedly scheduled to speak at another fundraiser for McCain in 2000. The Charlotte Observer reported on January 23, 2000, that McCain's campaign vouched for Liddy's "character":
His [McCain's] campaign officials said Liddy's character will appeal to many voters because he was following orders from President Nixon and kept silent afterward.
"His (Liddy's) judgment might be in question, but I don't think his character is," said Ed Walker, the York County chairman of McCain's campaign. "He was following orders just like any good soldier, and he didn't tell on anybody. He felt like he was on a mission and kept his silence."
Liddy's 2000 speech was reportedly canceled due to bad weather.
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Charles Keating maybe?
But on the other hand, McCain has enjoyed stratospheric success in politics. When the Arizona press hammered him on the issues, all he had to do was talk about Vietnam and suddenly the press would look as bad as Jane Fonda.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
Well, looks like my prediction from Friday was spot on ... and it appears the Obama campain is indeed going on the counter offensive ... the e-mail I received from the Obama camp tonight ...
~~~~~
Over the weekend, John McCain's top adviser announced their plan to stop engaging in a debate over the economy and "turn the page" to more direct, personal attacks on Barack Obama.
In the middle of the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, they want to change the subject from the central question of this election. Perhaps because the policies McCain supported these past eight years and wants to continue are pretty hard to defend.
But it's not just McCain's role in the current crisis that they're avoiding. The backward economic philosophy and culture of corruption that helped create the current crisis are looking more and more like the other major financial crisis of our time.
During the savings and loan crisis of the late '80s and early '90s, McCain's political favors and aggressive support for deregulation put him at the center of the fall of Lincoln Savings and Loan, one of the largest in the country. More than 23,000 investors lost their savings. Overall, the savings and loan crisis required the federal government to bail out the savings of hundreds of thousands of families and ultimately cost American taxpayers $124 billion.
Sound familiar?
In that crisis, John McCain and his political patron, Charles Keating, played central roles that ultimately landed Keating in jail for fraud and McCain in front of the Senate Ethics Committee. The McCain campaign has tried to avoid talking about the scandal, but with so many parallels to the current crisis, McCain's Keating history is relevant and voters deserve to know the facts -- and see for themselves the pattern of poor judgment by John McCain.
So at noon Eastern on Monday, October 6th, we're releasing a 13-minute documentary about the scandal called "Keating Economics: John McCain and the Making of a Financial Crisis" -- it will be available at KeatingEconomics.com, along with background information that every voter should know.
Watch a preview right now and share it with your friends.
The point of the film and the web site is that John McCain still hasn't learned his lesson.
And this time, McCain's bankrupt economic philosophy has put our economy at the brink of collapse and put millions of Americans at risk of losing their homes.
Watch the video to see why John McCain's failed philosophy and poor judgment is a recipe for deepening the crisis:
http://my.barackobama.com/keatingvideo
It's no wonder John McCain would rather spend the last month of this election smearing Barack's character instead of talking about the top priority issue for voters.
But if we work together, we can make sure the focus stays on the economy -- and how to fix it.
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
Post of the day.
Karl Rove, George Bush....
Yeah Reuters and the AP are slanted. :rolleyes:
Funny you didn't mention Fox.
Also funny that you asked for people with questionable pasts that McCain was linked to and I provided one, then you spout off more tired propaganda about Obama.
Welcome to my ignore list. Idiot.
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