What's Your breaking Point?

my2hands

Urban Hiker wrote:

Obama supporters break my heart. Some are very mean, others apathetic and many aren't really supporters at all - they are just voting against McCain.

generalize much? :rolleyes:

Anon

Urban Hiker wrote:

I'm not interested in being a mediator here. I'm voting for and supporting Nader and will support and speak out for/with those who are doing the same. I trust their character.

thanks for the insight into you defending your sister. that made me smile .

Just because someone here might be claiming to be an obama supporter, that does not make me automatically their best friend and trustful of their charachter. all that tells me is they hold the same political preferences that i do. i'm not blinded by that, instead i prefer to look at what's going on around me, having an open mind for a different view. my 'speaking out' for someone, would not just be saved for supporters of obama.

I love Drifting, Roland and Farfromglorified, don't always agree with them but i respect their opinions and the last time i checked, they were not fighting the fight for obama.

i support obama, but i'm sure there's lots of nader and mccain people who post here who would be more than worthy of me trusting their character.

my2hands

Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:

Talk about selective quoting...

is ralph nader on the ballot in ireland?

whats on the irish political horizon? just wondering since i am of irish heritage...

Rhinocerous Surprise

my2hands wrote:

i quoted a statement in a form of a sentence that was even finished with a period.

While neglecting to quote the rest of the post, which raised a lot of valid points. I'd call that selective.

my2hands

flywallyfly wrote:

For some reason they just dont get it. Seems blatantly apparent, but like this thread is about -- a good number of Nader supporters will justify any of his actions.

hear no evil see no evil

my2hands

Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:

While neglecting to quote the rest of the post, which raised a lot of valid points. I'd call that selective.

i was pointing out their amazing use of massive generalisation...



so, whats happening in ireland? whats the big issues of the day?

Rhinocerous Surprise

my2hands wrote:

is ralph nader on the ballot in ireland?

whats on the irish political horizon? just wondering since i am of irish heritage...

Right now, just a lot of talk of recession and EU centralisation. Oh, and our former Taoiseach is having his finances investigated.

my2hands

see... the last 1 hour was proof... the MT has become 1 giant waste of time with the same 5 nader people running ganging up together and derailing almost every thread into some debate about nader and how obama is evil... like it is nader vs obama in the election or something?


i think i am officially done with the MT until after the election. peace

RolandTD20Kdrummer

my2hands wrote:

see... the last 1 hour was proof... the MT has become 1 giant waste of time with the same 5 nader people running ganging up together and derailing almost every thread into some debate about nader and how obama is evil... like it is nader vs obama in the election or something?


i think i am officially done with the MT until after the election. peace

pussy....

Rhinocerous Surprise

my2hands wrote:

see... the last 1 hour was proof... the MT has become 1 giant waste of time with the same 5 nader people running ganging up together and derailing almost every thread into some debate about nader and how obama is evil... like it is nader vs obama in the election or something?


i think i am officially done with the MT until after the election. peace

To be fair, that doesn't really count as a derailment on this thread.

Urban Hiker

Pj_Gurl wrote:

thanks for the insight into you defending your sister. that made me smile .

Thanks, I'm glad it was worthwhile.

Urban Hiker

my2hands wrote:

generalize much? :rolleyes:

I didn't say all. But, thanks for helping me read you a little better. I think I'll stick with my first impression.

Abookamongstthemany

Pj_Gurl wrote:

but it's more than ok for kabong to try to get a rise of out someone isn't it urban hiker? i didn't see you jumping in then and having something to say. i guess it just depends on what side of the fence you are on, and who it might be directed at, as to whether you find it acceptable or not.

questioned anyones integrity lately has he?

Being consistent is a big part of debating and also why Obama supporters don't have the easiest time with it.

Kabong's not trying to get a rise out of someone. It's an important point to bring up to someone when they do a complete 180...it makes you wonder how someone could be so against someone to call them a corporate whore and then turn around and avidly support them. Like you wouldn't ask me the same questions if I keep telling you how Nader was the best candidate when just months earlier I was telling you how I thought he was a corporate whore. C'mon, that's just common sense and it's not the same thing as bullying by a loooooong shot. Nice reach. :rolleyes:

Abookamongstthemany

my2hands wrote:

you got it... but that will get dismissed by the nader folks aroun dhere... see no evil hear no evil.. their candiate is perfect and they are superior and smarter for supporting him, you didnt know that?

No, I've always claimed there is no perfect candidate but this stuff you guys bring up about Nader is weak as shit and it's only you two and maybe sweet potato that even gives a shit. But whateves. Keep up with the great stretch job, you two. It'll make ya more limber.

Abookamongstthemany

my2hands wrote:

on a side note about your signature... Nader/Gonzalez aint changing anything but their undies bro'

thats the point you seem to miss. no one is scared of republicans, we are being realistic of how fucked up they are. and we are being realistic that nader has as much of a chance as Mickey Mouse. but hey, vote for who you want. God Bless America


you now what i want from you Kabong, in exchange for my full disclosure on my support for Obama, i want you to lay out a detailed thread about John McCain and all the reasons we should not vote for him. I promise i will hold up my end of the bargain as soon as you shift 2 seconds of attentiom away from your anti-obama rhetoric and do the same against mccain in 1 thread. the more detailed you are the more detailed i will be. and i promise to hold up my end. deal bro? (you have me worried that your obsessiing too much with the wrong side, so i want to see that good old kabong speaking out against the real problem and the real anti christ candidate/party)

Just look ay the lists of stuff we've posted on Obama....yep it's the same stuff as McCain. Easy enough, eh?

Abookamongstthemany

my2hands wrote:

yeah, ok, i will give him a call :rolleyes:




dont worry about me and mr kabong... we will be fine... no one is bullying anyone here... we have been posting here long enough and know each other well enough we will be fine...

Actually, you come into these threads coming across as antagonistic, from where I stand. There are plenty here I can disagree with about Obama that are very level-headed and civil but you aren't one of them on most occasions. Maybe you ought to work on controlling your temper? I'm saying this in the most friendly way I know how to...just so you know.

Anon

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

Being consistent is a big part of debating and also why Obama supporters don't have the easiest time with it.

Kabong's not trying to get a rise out of someone. It's an important point to bring up to someone when they do a complete 180...it makes you wonder how someone could be so against someone to call them a corporate whore and then turn around and avidly support them. Like you wouldn't ask me the same questions if I keep telling you how Nader was the best candidate when just months earlier I was telling you how I thought he was a corporate whore. C'mon, that's just common sense and it's not the same thing as bullying by a loooooong shot. Nice reach. :rolleyes:

i might ask you the same questions abook sure, but i would NOT question YOUR INTEGRITY.

Abookamongstthemany

Pj_Gurl wrote:

i might ask you the same questions abook sure, but i would NOT question YOUR INTEGRITY.

What is integrity?

Anon

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

No, I've always claimed there is no perfect candidate but this stuff you guys bring up about Nader is weak as shit and it's only you two and maybe sweet potato that even gives a shit. But whateves. Keep up with the great stretch job, you two. It'll make ya more limber.

what stuff do i bring up exactly abook? care to point me to ONE thread that i have made about nader. feel free to check out all my posts and apart from a couple of joking ones, (you know, like you and your gramma pie ones,), i have hardly mentioned him.

this is exactly why some people are disenchanted with this forum now. because of people like you. you seem to think that you are the only one that can have an opinion and when someone is not crawling up your fucking ass and telling you how wonderful you are, and that they agree with everythiung you say, then you make up things and try and intimidate them till they run away. like you are TRYING TO DO HERE. Trying to make out i am the evil nader hater.

don't you fucking dare single me out as someone who posts negative things about nader all the time. because i fucking well don't. i talk about MY candidate.

maybe you could count up the number of times i have mentioned nader. then count up the number of times you mention obama.

i rest my fucking case.

Abookamongstthemany

Pj_Gurl wrote:

what stuff do i bring up exactly abook? care to point me to ONE thread that i have made about nader. feel free to check out all my posts and apart from a couple of joking ones, (you know, like you and your gramma pie ones,), i have hardly mentioned him.

this is exactly why some people are disenchanted with this forum now. because of people like you. you seem to think that you are the only one that can have an opinion and when someone is not crawling up your fucking ass and telling you how wonderful you are, and that they agree with everythiung you say, then you make up things and try and intimidate them till they run away. like you are TRYING TO DO HERE. Trying to make out i am the evil nader hater.

don't you fucking dare single me out as someone who posts negative things about nader all the time. because i fucking well don't. i talk about MY candidate.

maybe you could count up the number of times i have mentioned nader. then count up the number of times you mention obama.

i rest my fucking case.

Great, I'm glad you rested the case I wasn't making about you. Your work is now done.


And actually I don't think any of the stuff you got yourself in such a fluster about up there. So no need to fret so much....your minding reading skills seem to be laced with a bit much paranoia. I just like to argue my point and don't mind how long it takes me when it's something I believe in. That's it....no hard feelings. I've even given you tips on how to debate better in a pm because you seemed to get so worked up and I thought I could help because I used to do the same thing. But whatever, I'm a horrible person because I know how to argue well. Lock me up.