I'm not interested in being a mediator here. I'm voting for and supporting Nader and will support and speak out for/with those who are doing the same. I trust their character.
thanks for the insight into you defending your sister. that made me smile .
Just because someone here might be claiming to be an obama supporter, that does not make me automatically their best friend and trustful of their charachter. all that tells me is they hold the same political preferences that i do. i'm not blinded by that, instead i prefer to look at what's going on around me, having an open mind for a different view. my 'speaking out' for someone, would not just be saved for supporters of obama.
I love Drifting, Roland and Farfromglorified, don't always agree with them but i respect their opinions and the last time i checked, they were not fighting the fight for obama.
i support obama, but i'm sure there's lots of nader and mccain people who post here who would be more than worthy of me trusting their character.
For some reason they just dont get it. Seems blatantly apparent, but like this thread is about -- a good number of Nader supporters will justify any of his actions.
see... the last 1 hour was proof... the MT has become 1 giant waste of time with the same 5 nader people running ganging up together and derailing almost every thread into some debate about nader and how obama is evil... like it is nader vs obama in the election or something?
i think i am officially done with the MT until after the election. peace
see... the last 1 hour was proof... the MT has become 1 giant waste of time with the same 5 nader people running ganging up together and derailing almost every thread into some debate about nader and how obama is evil... like it is nader vs obama in the election or something?
i think i am officially done with the MT until after the election. peace
pussy....
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
see... the last 1 hour was proof... the MT has become 1 giant waste of time with the same 5 nader people running ganging up together and derailing almost every thread into some debate about nader and how obama is evil... like it is nader vs obama in the election or something?
i think i am officially done with the MT until after the election. peace
To be fair, that doesn't really count as a derailment on this thread.
Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
thanks for the insight into you defending your sister. that made me smile .
Thanks, I'm glad it was worthwhile.
Walking can be a real trip
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"We've laid the groundwork. It's like planting the seeds. And next year, it's spring." - Nader
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Prepare for tending to your garden, America.
I didn't say all. But, thanks for helping me read you a little better. I think I'll stick with my first impression.
Walking can be a real trip
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"We've laid the groundwork. It's like planting the seeds. And next year, it's spring." - Nader
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Prepare for tending to your garden, America.
but it's more than ok for kabong to try to get a rise of out someone isn't it urban hiker? i didn't see you jumping in then and having something to say. i guess it just depends on what side of the fence you are on, and who it might be directed at, as to whether you find it acceptable or not.
questioned anyones integrity lately has he?
Being consistent is a big part of debating and also why Obama supporters don't have the easiest time with it.
Kabong's not trying to get a rise out of someone. It's an important point to bring up to someone when they do a complete 180...it makes you wonder how someone could be so against someone to call them a corporate whore and then turn around and avidly support them. Like you wouldn't ask me the same questions if I keep telling you how Nader was the best candidate when just months earlier I was telling you how I thought he was a corporate whore. C'mon, that's just common sense and it's not the same thing as bullying by a loooooong shot. Nice reach. :rolleyes:
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
you got it... but that will get dismissed by the nader folks aroun dhere... see no evil hear no evil.. their candiate is perfect and they are superior and smarter for supporting him, you didnt know that?
No, I've always claimed there is no perfect candidate but this stuff you guys bring up about Nader is weak as shit and it's only you two and maybe sweet potato that even gives a shit. But whateves. Keep up with the great stretch job, you two. It'll make ya more limber.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
on a side note about your signature... Nader/Gonzalez aint changing anything but their undies bro'
thats the point you seem to miss. no one is scared of republicans, we are being realistic of how fucked up they are. and we are being realistic that nader has as much of a chance as Mickey Mouse. but hey, vote for who you want. God Bless America
you now what i want from you Kabong, in exchange for my full disclosure on my support for Obama, i want you to lay out a detailed thread about John McCain and all the reasons we should not vote for him. I promise i will hold up my end of the bargain as soon as you shift 2 seconds of attentiom away from your anti-obama rhetoric and do the same against mccain in 1 thread. the more detailed you are the more detailed i will be. and i promise to hold up my end. deal bro? (you have me worried that your obsessiing too much with the wrong side, so i want to see that good old kabong speaking out against the real problem and the real anti christ candidate/party)
Just look ay the lists of stuff we've posted on Obama....yep it's the same stuff as McCain. Easy enough, eh?
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
dont worry about me and mr kabong... we will be fine... no one is bullying anyone here... we have been posting here long enough and know each other well enough we will be fine...
Actually, you come into these threads coming across as antagonistic, from where I stand. There are plenty here I can disagree with about Obama that are very level-headed and civil but you aren't one of them on most occasions. Maybe you ought to work on controlling your temper? I'm saying this in the most friendly way I know how to...just so you know.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Being consistent is a big part of debating and also why Obama supporters don't have the easiest time with it.
Kabong's not trying to get a rise out of someone. It's an important point to bring up to someone when they do a complete 180...it makes you wonder how someone could be so against someone to call them a corporate whore and then turn around and avidly support them. Like you wouldn't ask me the same questions if I keep telling you how Nader was the best candidate when just months earlier I was telling you how I thought he was a corporate whore. C'mon, that's just common sense and it's not the same thing as bullying by a loooooong shot. Nice reach. :rolleyes:
i might ask you the same questions abook sure, but i would NOT question YOUR INTEGRITY.
No, I've always claimed there is no perfect candidate but this stuff you guys bring up about Nader is weak as shit and it's only you two and maybe sweet potato that even gives a shit. But whateves. Keep up with the great stretch job, you two. It'll make ya more limber.
what stuff do i bring up exactly abook? care to point me to ONE thread that i have made about nader. feel free to check out all my posts and apart from a couple of joking ones, (you know, like you and your gramma pie ones,), i have hardly mentioned him.
this is exactly why some people are disenchanted with this forum now. because of people like you. you seem to think that you are the only one that can have an opinion and when someone is not crawling up your fucking ass and telling you how wonderful you are, and that they agree with everythiung you say, then you make up things and try and intimidate them till they run away. like you are TRYING TO DO HERE. Trying to make out i am the evil nader hater.
don't you fucking dare single me out as someone who posts negative things about nader all the time. because i fucking well don't. i talk about MY candidate.
maybe you could count up the number of times i have mentioned nader. then count up the number of times you mention obama.
what stuff do i bring up exactly abook? care to point me to ONE thread that i have made about nader. feel free to check out all my posts and apart from a couple of joking ones, (you know, like you and your gramma pie ones,), i have hardly mentioned him.
this is exactly why some people are disenchanted with this forum now. because of people like you. you seem to think that you are the only one that can have an opinion and when someone is not crawling up your fucking ass and telling you how wonderful you are, and that they agree with everythiung you say, then you make up things and try and intimidate them till they run away. like you are TRYING TO DO HERE. Trying to make out i am the evil nader hater.
don't you fucking dare single me out as someone who posts negative things about nader all the time. because i fucking well don't. i talk about MY candidate.
maybe you could count up the number of times i have mentioned nader. then count up the number of times you mention obama.
i rest my fucking case.
Great, I'm glad you rested the case I wasn't making about you. Your work is now done.
And actually I don't think any of the stuff you got yourself in such a fluster about up there. So no need to fret so much....your minding reading skills seem to be laced with a bit much paranoia. I just like to argue my point and don't mind how long it takes me when it's something I believe in. That's it....no hard feelings. I've even given you tips on how to debate better in a pm because you seemed to get so worked up and I thought I could help because I used to do the same thing. But whatever, I'm a horrible person because I know how to argue well. Lock me up.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
No, I've always claimed there is no perfect candidate but this stuff you guys bring up about Nader is weak as shit and it's only you two and maybe sweet potato that even gives a shit. But whateves. Keep up with the great stretch job, you two. It'll make ya more limber.
If you view hypocrisy of this magnitude as weak then you'll never get it. I guess obsessions make people this way.
The fact that only three people give a shit enough to point out Nader's flaws is more a reflection on how many people even take him seriously on here. He's a hypocritical egomaniac with a following of under 10 people on a Pearl Jam message board -- that speaks volumes. Wonder which people are wrong about him ?
Good luck spreading the Nadernut platform. He isnt worth wasting my time with anymore.
If you view hypocrisy of this magnitude as weak then you'll never get it. I guess obsessions make people this way.
The fact that only three people give a shit enough to point out Nader's flaws is more a reflection on how many people even take him seriously on here. He's a hypocritical egomaniac with a following of under 10 people on a Pearl Jam message board -- that speaks volumes. Wonder which people are wrong about him ?
Good luck spreading the Nadernut platform. He isnt worth wasting my time with anymore.
Guess you reached your breaking point! Haha! I am King of Funny.
Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
If you view hypocrisy of this magnitude as weak then you'll never get it. I guess obsessions make people this way.
The fact that only three people give a shit enough to point out Nader's flaws is more a reflection on how many people even take him seriously on here. He's a hypocritical egomaniac with a following of under 10 people on a Pearl Jam message board -- that speaks volumes. Wonder which people are wrong about him ?
Good luck spreading the Nadernut platform. He isnt worth wasting my time with anymore.
No, most post that they respect him for what he has done but aren't voting for him for varying reasons. It's only you 3 that overlook all he has done with the money he has made and look at it like it's a bad thing.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Great, I'm glad you rested the case I wasn't making about you. Your work is now done.
who were the 'you two' you were talking about then? forgive me for jumping to conclusions when it was mine and my two hands posts you had just replied to.
If you view hypocrisy of this magnitude as weak then you'll never get it. I guess obsessions make people this way.
The fact that only three people give a shit enough to point out Nader's flaws is more a reflection on how many people even take him seriously on here. He's a hypocritical egomaniac with a following of under 10 people on a Pearl Jam message board -- that speaks volumes. Wonder which people are wrong about him ?
Good luck spreading the Nadernut platform. He isnt worth wasting my time with anymore.
And 6% of the country isn't 10. Check that math again.
And with hardly any national exposure compared to every day 24/7 coverage on the main streamers...that speaks volumes.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
No, most post that they respect him for what he has done but aren't voting for him for varying reasons. It's only you 3 that overlook all he has done with the money he has made and look at it like it's a bad thing.
You are sooooo wrong about that. Many on here realize what a shill he is. Dont worry about that though, you have a burning hatred for Obama that needs kindling. Scoot scoot !
who were the 'you two' you were talking about then? forgive me for jumping to conclusions when it was mine and my two hands posts you had just replied to.
I was talking about the people who keep posting the things about Nader that are stretched outta proportion.....as you clearly pointed out with extra points for drama....you are not one of those.
I wasn't quoting you when I said that. I was speaking to the person I quoted and others who fit that description.
Why would you think I was referring to you about something you don't do?
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
And 6% of the country isn't 10. Check that math again.
And with hardly any national exposure compared to every day 24/7 coverage on the main streamers...that speaks volumes.
So 6% poll of the country correlates to 6% on this message board ?? You've been praising Nader on here for months -- tell me 50 names on here who are Nader supporters.
You are sooooo wrong about that. Many on here realize what a shill he is. Dont worry about that though, you have a burning hatred for Obama that needs kindling. Scoot scoot !
Oh really, who?
I have a disdain for politicians who don't do jack for the people. Obama is just the flavor of the month.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
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generalize much? :rolleyes:
Just because someone here might be claiming to be an obama supporter, that does not make me automatically their best friend and trustful of their charachter. all that tells me is they hold the same political preferences that i do. i'm not blinded by that, instead i prefer to look at what's going on around me, having an open mind for a different view. my 'speaking out' for someone, would not just be saved for supporters of obama.
I love Drifting, Roland and Farfromglorified,
i support obama, but i'm sure there's lots of nader and mccain people who post here who would be more than worthy of me trusting their character.
is ralph nader on the ballot in ireland?
whats on the irish political horizon? just wondering since i am of irish heritage...
hear no evil see no evil
i was pointing out their amazing use of massive generalisation...
so, whats happening in ireland? whats the big issues of the day?
i think i am officially done with the MT until after the election. peace
pussy....
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Thanks, I'm glad it was worthwhile.
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"We've laid the groundwork. It's like planting the seeds. And next year, it's spring." - Nader
***********************
Prepare for tending to your garden, America.
I didn't say all. But, thanks for helping me read you a little better. I think I'll stick with my first impression.
***********************
"We've laid the groundwork. It's like planting the seeds. And next year, it's spring." - Nader
***********************
Prepare for tending to your garden, America.
Being consistent is a big part of debating and also why Obama supporters don't have the easiest time with it.
Kabong's not trying to get a rise out of someone. It's an important point to bring up to someone when they do a complete 180...it makes you wonder how someone could be so against someone to call them a corporate whore and then turn around and avidly support them. Like you wouldn't ask me the same questions if I keep telling you how Nader was the best candidate when just months earlier I was telling you how I thought he was a corporate whore. C'mon, that's just common sense and it's not the same thing as bullying by a loooooong shot. Nice reach. :rolleyes:
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
No, I've always claimed there is no perfect candidate but this stuff you guys bring up about Nader is weak as shit and it's only you two and maybe sweet potato that even gives a shit. But whateves. Keep up with the great stretch job, you two. It'll make ya more limber.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Just look ay the lists of stuff we've posted on Obama....yep it's the same stuff as McCain. Easy enough, eh?
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Actually, you come into these threads coming across as antagonistic, from where I stand. There are plenty here I can disagree with about Obama that are very level-headed and civil but you aren't one of them on most occasions. Maybe you ought to work on controlling your temper? I'm saying this in the most friendly way I know how to...just so you know.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
i might ask you the same questions abook sure, but i would NOT question YOUR INTEGRITY.
What is integrity?
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
what stuff do i bring up exactly abook? care to point me to ONE thread that i have made about nader. feel free to check out all my posts and apart from a couple of joking ones, (you know, like you and your gramma pie ones,), i have hardly mentioned him.
this is exactly why some people are disenchanted with this forum now. because of people like you. you seem to think that you are the only one that can have an opinion and when someone is not crawling up your fucking ass and telling you how wonderful you are, and that they agree with everythiung you say, then you make up things and try and intimidate them till they run away. like you are TRYING TO DO HERE. Trying to make out i am the evil nader hater.
don't you fucking dare single me out as someone who posts negative things about nader all the time. because i fucking well don't. i talk about MY candidate.
maybe you could count up the number of times i have mentioned nader. then count up the number of times you mention obama.
i rest my fucking case.
Great, I'm glad you rested the case I wasn't making about you. Your work is now done.
And actually I don't think any of the stuff you got yourself in such a fluster about up there. So no need to fret so much....your minding reading skills seem to be laced with a bit much paranoia. I just like to argue my point and don't mind how long it takes me when it's something I believe in. That's it....no hard feelings. I've even given you tips on how to debate better in a pm because you seemed to get so worked up and I thought I could help because I used to do the same thing. But whatever, I'm a horrible person because I know how to argue well. Lock me up.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
If you view hypocrisy of this magnitude as weak then you'll never get it. I guess obsessions make people this way.
The fact that only three people give a shit enough to point out Nader's flaws is more a reflection on how many people even take him seriously on here. He's a hypocritical egomaniac with a following of under 10 people on a Pearl Jam message board -- that speaks volumes. Wonder which people are wrong about him ?
Good luck spreading the Nadernut platform. He isnt worth wasting my time with anymore.
No, most post that they respect him for what he has done but aren't voting for him for varying reasons. It's only you 3 that overlook all he has done with the money he has made and look at it like it's a bad thing.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
That is actually kinda funny.
And 6% of the country isn't 10. Check that math again.
And with hardly any national exposure compared to every day 24/7 coverage on the main streamers...that speaks volumes.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
You are sooooo wrong about that. Many on here realize what a shill he is. Dont worry about that though, you have a burning hatred for Obama that needs kindling. Scoot scoot !
I was talking about the people who keep posting the things about Nader that are stretched outta proportion.....as you clearly pointed out with extra points for drama....you are not one of those.
I wasn't quoting you when I said that. I was speaking to the person I quoted and others who fit that description.
Why would you think I was referring to you about something you don't do?
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
So 6% poll of the country correlates to 6% on this message board ?? You've been praising Nader on here for months -- tell me 50 names on here who are Nader supporters.
Oh really, who?
I have a disdain for politicians who don't do jack for the people. Obama is just the flavor of the month.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde