fire melts steel. 9/11 conspiracy theorists?
dangerboy
Posts: 1,569
never in history has fire melted steel, huh? 9/11 black helicopter tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorists need to rethink that...and this was just one tanker of regular gasoline, not a huge airliner filled with jet fuel inpacting at 650 mph....
http://my.earthlink.net/article/nat?guid=20070429/46341840_3ca6_1552620070429-1236947502
A stretch of highway near the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge collapsed Sunday after a gasoline tanker crashed and burst into flames, leaving one of the nation's busiest spans in a state of near paralysis.
The tanker carrying 8,600 gallons of gasoline ignited around 3:45 a.m. after crashing into a pylon on the interchange, which connects westbound lanes of Interstate 80 to southbound I-880, on the edge of downtown Oakland about half a mile from the Bay Bridge's toll plaza
Witnesses reported flames rising up to 200 feet into the air. Heat exceeded 2,750 degrees and caused the steel beams holding up the interchange from eastbound I-80 to eastbound Interstate 580 above to buckle and bolts holding the structure together to melt, leading to the collapse, California Department of Transportation director Will Kempton said.
http://my.earthlink.net/article/nat?guid=20070429/46341840_3ca6_1552620070429-1236947502
A stretch of highway near the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge collapsed Sunday after a gasoline tanker crashed and burst into flames, leaving one of the nation's busiest spans in a state of near paralysis.
The tanker carrying 8,600 gallons of gasoline ignited around 3:45 a.m. after crashing into a pylon on the interchange, which connects westbound lanes of Interstate 80 to southbound I-880, on the edge of downtown Oakland about half a mile from the Bay Bridge's toll plaza
Witnesses reported flames rising up to 200 feet into the air. Heat exceeded 2,750 degrees and caused the steel beams holding up the interchange from eastbound I-80 to eastbound Interstate 580 above to buckle and bolts holding the structure together to melt, leading to the collapse, California Department of Transportation director Will Kempton said.
ebay isn't evil people are
The South is Much Obliged
Post edited by Unknown User on
0
Comments
Chris Cornell
http://www.myspace.com/mrwalkerb
walked away
thank you for representing the good in humanity...the fact that this was your first thought says alot about you. alot of good
ebay isn't evil people are
The South is Much Obliged
~Ron Burgundy
well, you said that better than me, so thanks
the steel was weakened on the bridge, and the bolts melted, not the whole steel structure...i stand clarified
ebay isn't evil people are
The South is Much Obliged
You highlighted the important part. Try again Nancy Drew.
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
definitely...there is hope for us yet
EV: Honolulu-4/21 & 4/22/07 [Kokua]. Detroit-6/26/11.
The fire couldnt have been too hot if he didnt melt and collapse like those Germans in Indiana Jones.
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
"The tape of interviews of air traffic controllers on-duty on 9/11 was intentionally destroyed by crushing the cassette by hand, cutting the tape into little pieces, and then dropping the pieces in different trash cans around the building"
http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2006/02/20-reasons-to-question-official-story.html
.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
quality-assurance manager who destroyed tape says he did so because he thought making tape was contrary to Federal Aviation Adm policy, which calls for written statements, and because he felt that controllers were not in correct frame of mind to have properly consented to taping because of stress of the day; inspector general ascribes destruction of tape to 'poor judgment'
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F0091FFE3C580C748CDDAC0894DC404482&incamp=archive:search
it's also weird that they would seal the tapes from the fire fighters at ground zero...we can hear the cell phone tapes over and over but not what they said??
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
Let's stay on topic...
So what about this 'open air fire fueld by gasoline that brought down a steel and concrete structure' in California? I thought you people claim this can't happen? Or is this just part of the conspiracy?
Hehe. Yes, the physics of bolts melting on an overpass and the multiple steel columns of a 100 story building are comparable. Your new nickname shall be "Bridgeboy".
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
...especially when you see and hear Bush etc.. outright lying about it again and again and again.. Gmafb already...
interesting chain of events:
http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/
.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
they can't. some insulting, dismissive replies, most dodging the issue entirely...
ebay isn't evil people are
The South is Much Obliged
yea. DUH! weakened steel and melting bolts in a 1000 foot building with 20 or 30 stories of weight above them would collapse way faster than some silly 30 foot highway bri.....oh, wait. i guess that wasn't your point at all, was it?
ebay isn't evil people are
The South is Much Obliged
"Let the ignorant enjoy their ignorance, for it won't last forever."
"For what each man wishes that he also believes to be true."
edit:spelling
Last time I drove on a bridge I don't exactly remember driving through all the huge vertical steel beams everywhere throughout the lanes. Who comes up with this shit? Better yet who jumps on that boneheads bandwagon?
Truly stunning comparison.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
i'm only seeing people talking about the melting of steel, not comparing the construction of a bridge to the construction of a building.
~Michael Bolton
I thought everyone and their dog has tested and proved what temperature steel melts at. What is the discussion in this case then?
Open fire does not melt steel...end of story.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
well, seems an open fire buckled steel and melted bolts in this case. i have no idea what the bolts were made of, but i highly doubt it was plastic.
~Michael Bolton
Weakened steel is one thing. Melted steel is an entirely different situation altogether.
Anyhow back to 9/11. The bridge comparison is a completely pointless off topic discussion. Fire weakens steel yes...open fire cannot melt it. hmm...cannot melt steel....hmmm i.e. fire does not melt steel...hey!! there's proven and well known concept right there!
It's stunning how anyone with more than a few brain cells to rub together can see nothing wrong with huge pools of melted steel glowing red hot (not hours or days) but for several weeks because of a little sprinkling of that "o so magic" super duper jet fuel.
It really is inconceivable some people either can't, or don't, even blink at this utterly glaring and most impossible fact and reality.
.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
you know, i don't normally reply to things in this forum because people take on the "holier than thou" attitude. and now, i'm sorry that i did. it amazes me that replies can't be made without hurling insults at anyone that doesn't agree.
have fun tearing each other new assholes. i'm sure this thread will end up 20 pages long and have more insults than sane conversation.
~Michael Bolton
hey anytime.. stop by again if you get lonely. One can't coddle the incomprehensible their entire lives. It's going on 6 years since this whole 9/11 fiasco... People are sensing the urge to forgo a few niceties at this stage of the game for those who still haven't caught up to speed.
At some point you know it's gotta get a little ugly. Kinda like Iraq was/is...not to mention all the delicious and greatly warranted pentagon spending...you know...actually the list is pretty much endless.....just ask anyone with a keen eye these days
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=239695&highlight=9%2F11.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Where do you think the billions of Joules worth of kinetic energy from two falling 110 story office building went to?
See if you can make the connection here...
I like this thread. I think we'll talk about it right here.
Thanks.
Have fun in your purple sky world...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
there is a difference between steel beams holding up an interchange (where it is spread out) and a building which has a much smaller area and probably more beams
the bolts were what melted, what were the bolts made of?
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
You are making some pretty wild assumptions there.
Steel.
Where do you think the billions of Joules worth of kinetic energy from two falling 110 story office building went to?
See if you can make the connection here...
Do you know what kinetic energy is or did I confuse you with the term Joules?