If Obama wins which looks likely will he be assassinated?

Abookamongstthemany

cutback wrote:

amen sister...i've probably ran into just as many racists in la than i would in the south...

and damnit, good to see ya! hope all is well....:D

Hey there, cutback! All is peachy here, thanks for asking, hope all is good on your side. I should be around much more often now so here's to springtime at the pit.

norm

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

Hey there, cutback! All is peachy here, thanks for asking, hope all is good on your side. I should be around much more often now so here's to springtime at the pit.

good the amt needs your rational thought....:)

Abookamongstthemany

cutback wrote:

good the amt needs your rational thought....:)

Me? Rational? It's making me giggle thinking about what some here would think about that.

PJ_Saluki

It's a valid question. I don't think Obama will be assassinated, but that doesn't mean I don't think somebody will try it. Hell, security has already probably nabbed some plotters. Here's where the script writers put in a crooked VP candidate. If he picks Chaney, watch out.

jeffbr

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

Me? Rational? It's making me giggle thinking about what some here would think about that.

Although we don't agree on everything, or even most things, I have always respected your posts, and enjoyed your perspective. I'm glad to hear you'll be back in the pit!

Abookamongstthemany

jeffbr wrote:

Although we don't agree on everything, or even most things, I have always respected your posts, and enjoyed your perspective. I'm glad to hear you'll be back in the pit!

The feeling has always been mutual, jeff.

the wolf

MLC2006 wrote:

Kennedy had the makings of one of the worst presidents ever. what "hope"? hope of starting a war that cost 60,000 US lives? I'd hope there is no similarities between JFK and Obama.

you do realize that JFK was commited to getting out of vietnam right?

thats why a lot of the conspiracy therories think LBJ had something to do with it, so he could become president, within 3 days of JFK' burial, and Lyndon Johnson being president, LBJ sign a document that reversed JFK's decision to get out of Vietnam, and that was actually the start of the vietnam war effort.

please know what you are talking about b4 you make statements like this.

NMyTree

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

I hangout in greenville almost every weekend, grew up and still live 30 mins away...neither of these two posts accurately describe the city. That being said, there are people like the ones described who live there but I'm sure you're both aware that this kind of mentality exists everywhere else, too. Hate, though on its decline, imo, still is alive and well all over this country and planet, for that matter. Personally, I view people that assume the south is filled to the brim with nothing but gomer pyles, inbred rednecks and sheet-wearing assholes to be just as ignorant, stereotypical and misinformed as the racists they show such disdain towards.

In my life I've lived in New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania and North Carolina. I've been to South Carolina (Charleston area) Atlanta, California, Wisconsin and Oregon several times, for an extended time period (visit).

I can tell you that I have never seen bigger racists and rednecks than some of the people I met/seen when I lived in north western New Jersey, New York City and in the Dingmans Ferry area of Pennsylvania.

Which is not an attempt on my part to insinuate or make a sweeping generalization of people from those northern states. Simply, there are some people (certainly not all) up north who are raging, ignorant racists to the bone. No more no less than any other racist ........in any part of this country.

The difference that I have noticed as a northern transplant living in the south, is this. And it seems to work often with the individuals I have personally met.

The racist up north for the most part are more upfront and forthcoming regarding their racist perceptions and attitudes. The racists I have met down here in the south, seem to be more guarded and secretitive about their racism.

When I was in Dingman's Ferry, PA; I felt like I was an anthropologist, who had just discovered a long lost civilization that was isolated and nestled deep in the woods of PA from the real world; for hundreds and hundreds of years. It was bizarre.

When I was 19 years old my friends and I were stuck in the middle of a race-motivated fight, while sleeping over for Rush tickets; at the Capital Theater in Passiac, NJ.

Gangs of black teenagers attacked the people in line (who all happened to be white), by not only throwing bottles, rocks, batteries and anything else they could get their hands on, at us; but they also charged the people in line and started beating on them. We had to fight back and 35-40 of us had to pull together as a group (gang) and defend the people in line from the attacks. We spent the night on constant watch and patrol.

In self-defense, we too gathered beer/liquor bottles, rocks, sticks, pipes and anything we could use as a weapon and passed them out to all the people in line; so they could chuck them at the attackers when they attempted their attacks or runbys. We were fighting and brawling in the streets and all over/around the Capital Theater, all night. We returned their attacks and beat the crap out of each other all night. But we were for the most part successful in protecting the people/girls in line. Although one girl got hit in the head with a bottle and had to be taken to the hospital for stitches and checked for any internal injury. Eventually, we drove them back and had them on the run. We were the ones chasing them down and they scattered all over the place.

The cops never arrived to break it up. The black teens even broke the glass of that classic ticket booth which stood out front of the Capital theater, for decades and decades; by throwing a big rock through it. A rock that was meant for the heads of some Rush fans waiting for tickets.

Racists come in all colors and from any where.

They are all over this country, both north and south......east and west.

Fahka

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soulsinging

i dont think so. while im sure there are plenty of morons who have problems with a black president, i think the inbreeding has deprived them of the mental capacity to do anything about it.

Dustin51

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

I hangout in greenville almost every weekend, grew up and still live 30 mins away...neither of these two posts accurately describe the city. That being said, there are people like the ones described who live there but I'm sure you're both aware that this kind of mentality exists everywhere else, too. Hate, though on its decline, imo, still is alive and well all over this country and planet, for that matter. Personally, I view people that assume the south is filled to the brim with nothing but gomer pyles, inbred rednecks and sheet-wearing assholes to be just as ignorant, stereotypical and misinformed as the racists they show such disdain towards.

Whoa whoa...I wasn't bashing the South or Greenville. I love that city. It's beautiful and it's an absolute blast to party in. Which is what I was pointing out. As far as the racist, yeah, you;re right, racist are everywhere. Probably just as many racist in Bakersfield, CA as there are in Greenville, SC. I've met wonderful people all over the country though and I would say there are more good people in this country then bad.

Urban Hiker

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

I hangout in greenville almost every weekend, grew up and still live 30 mins away...neither of these two posts accurately describe the city. That being said, there are people like the ones described who live there but I'm sure you're both aware that this kind of mentality exists everywhere else, too. Hate, though on its decline, imo, still is alive and well all over this country and planet, for that matter. Personally, I view people that assume the south is filled to the brim with nothing but gomer pyles, inbred rednecks and sheet-wearing assholes to be just as ignorant, stereotypical and misinformed as the racists they show such disdain towards.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

I know of some so-called open minded people who refuse to go to the South, because of their impression of its population as a whole. They actually fear going there. :eek:

Watched 'Deliverance' a few too many times I suppose. :rolleyes:

However, the South is used as THE example of America's racist past. At least it was for me. It was always the video of some southern state with segregated everything. That's something those states might want to work to improve.

What about Japanese internment camps? They certainly were not exclusive to the south. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American_internment

What about institutionalized racism such as mortgage red lines. Where people in certain neighborhoods that were known as minority neighborhoods were basically barred from obtaining mortgages and therefore left out of the wealth that can be created and carried on by homeownership. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining


Edit: I think I got lost and thought I was in the North/South Race thread. Oh, well. Maybe I'll repost over there for redundancy.

soulsinging

Urban Hiker wrote:

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

I know of some so-called open minded people who refuse to go to the South, because of their impression of its population as a whole. They actually fear going there. :eek:

Watched 'Deliverance' a few too many times I suppose. :rolleyes:

However, the South is used as THE example of America's racist past. At least it was for me. It was always the video of some southern state with segregated everything. That's something those states might want to work to improve.

What about Japanese internment camps? They certainly were not exclusive to the south. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American_internment

What about institutionalized racism such as mortgage red lines. Where people in certain neighborhoods that were known as minority neighborhoods were basically barred from obtaining mortgages and therefore left out of the wealth that can be created and carried on by homeownership. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining


Edit: I think I got lost and thought I was in the North/South Race thread. Oh, well. Maybe I'll repost over there for redundancy.

i think the problem is that even if the south has left behind much of its racist past, it has held onto many other accoutrements of that time, and that makes it hard for people to shake the image that the south is frozen in time. i've been reading a sociological text on the influence of religion in american culture, and one comment i feel has broad application is that it said that post-civil war, the white south developed a fond nostalgia for ole dixie as some sort of american heartland paradise... the pinnacle of an american culture that has been in decline ever since. thus i think the north sees things like reverence for the confederate flag and borderling-superstitious religious evangelism and figures that rigid adherence and celebration of old traditions prevalent in an age also renowned for slavery and racism also extends to those latter undesirable traits. to the north and blacks and many other parts of the country it is impossible to separate the confederate flag from the KKK and racism, just as i imagine jews have a tough time seeing the swastika as anything other than nazism, despite its varied historic symbolism. so it is difficult to see a culture that still waves the confederate flag and embraces fundamentalist christianity and believe them when they say they're not racist anymore, cos it seems like they haven't let go of a lot of other parts of that past.

maybe it's wrong and maybe it's unfair. but i don't think it's unreasonable or surprising that the north is confused by southerners with confederate flag bumper stickers saying they're not racist. that flag means a whole different thing outside the south than it does inside.