I'll get teh wifelet to tape it on her new-fangled infernal device.
What's it about ??
it's satire. it's about everything. hence its title. :rolleyes:
and no one is safe. last week they approached hilary clinton and tried to get her to hire them as an intern. they had a resume and everything. though admittedly the resume was just beefcake shots. this week they tried to sell a mosque. no thing and no one is safe. also this week they were 'booking' people for speeding in a carpark. previously they've 'booked' people at bondi fro having pretentious tattoos.
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Personally, I think classism is more prevalent than racism, at least where I live.
has always been, 200 years ago irish and italians where the urban destitutes. "scientific studies" showed that they commited more crimes. no shit, they were poor, they didn't have a ton of options. not much difference today. no one has to steal if they can get it themselves. (with exception of course)
it's satire. it's about everything. hence its title. :rolleyes:
and no one is safe. last week they approached hilary clinton and tried to get her to hire them as an intern. they had a resume and everything. though admittedly the resume was just beefcake shots. this week they tried to sell a mosque. no thing and no one is safe. also this week they were 'booking' people for speeding in a carpark. previously they've 'booked' people at bondi fro having pretentious tattoos.
Sounds fun, I'll check it out. MInd you, I have nearly been mown down in car parks by speeding maniacs, so that at least makes sense.
and racism wouldnt have anything to do with the fact that most of the top rock acts are white right?
I mean its not the bands fault, its the record labels fault and such.
Its the people who sign bands fault.
You dont think the lack of black acts in country music has to do with racism?
I would never imply blacks only play one type of music, or are only hip hop fans, yet you seemed to do that/
Again, hippiemom please repeat what you said to a gathering of african americans, and see how they react.
"oh yeah, I feel blacks arent into rock and dont play it, thats why there are no black frontmen"!!
What a bunch of poppycock
holy shit you are right, and asians don't play rock and indians don't play professional basketball. is that why there are a handful of white rappers? what clown college are you graduating from?
I am a person who believes blacks listen to all kinds of music and dont just listen to hip hop or jazz. But of course, I dont live in reality right hippiemom!
no you don't, because no one listens to jazz. just hip hop.
holy shit you are right, and asians don't play rock and indians don't play professional basketball. is that why there are a handful of white rappers? what clown college are you graduating from?
Hootie, Living Colour and Fishbone are very upset right now.
one foot in the door
the other foot in the gutter
sweet smell that they adore
I think I'd rather smother
-The Replacements-
it's not my fault i was born white and i don't feel any guiltier about that than i do about being born left handed and with red curly hair. but for the most part...my world is colorblind. i never notice my friends' colors until someone brings it up...oddly enough, it's usually acquaintances who feel the need to expound on how unfair racial prejudice is or to point out some racial bias in this world. my friend denise says she never feels more black or more hated until someone starts spouting this shit. that when people go out of their way to point it out, it means they notice and in that way are being prejudiced. until people stop seeing colors, even the 'keepers of racial harmony' are racially biased and prejudiced.
so, while i'm glad you're all for racial equality che....that you go on about this so rabidly makes you the kind of person my friends of color avoid as much as they avoid the person yelling the n word.
Beautiful post Toof
That's what I try to say, but it's been bugging me a lot lately. I don't like the idea of that kind of society and everyone I've talked to doesn't either. I've got a neurological explanation for why people think we do, but that's pretty long. It's rooted in the United States mainly because of the history. But these statements are made internationally. I've got my whole family history on CD and it's nothing like what I was basically taught in school. I was taught that "whites enslaved blacks", "men oppressed women", "Whites killed natives". Yea, history is a great tool, let's never have another Iraq by using the past for vengance. It seems we have to keep learning this lesson over and over again.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Anyone else notice that super-rich black sports and rap stars piss all their money on cars adn cribs adn entourages, and give SFA back to teh other poor kids in teh communities where theey come from ???
How mcuh money has Micheal Jordan or Michael Jackson donated to promote black education, how many schools does he sponsor, how many sports programmes does he fund ???
Anyone else notice that super-rich black sports and rap stars piss all their money on cars adn cribs adn entourages, and give SFA back to teh other poor kids in teh communities where theey come from ???
How mcuh money has Micheal Jordan or Michael Jackson donated to promote black education, how many schools does he sponsor, how many sports programmes does he fund ???
Only one problem with this argument.....Michael Jackson is no longer black.
one foot in the door
the other foot in the gutter
sweet smell that they adore
I think I'd rather smother
-The Replacements-
yeah but like all of us, he's black on the inside.
I'm mostly red on the inside. Think my pancreas is kind of yellow.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Lets just agree on one thing, Che is a race traitor and should kill himself. n/k
"Stunned by my own reflection, It's looking back, sees me too clearly and I swore I'd never go there again, Not unlike a friend that politely drags you down,down,down"
When you see me on the street, yell out "FAVO!!!"
I've been to alot of Pearl Jam shows;So fucking what.
but isn't it great to know you can be born a black male and end up a white woman?
Oh fuck, you just pointed out white man crime #51, I as a white man, can expect that my nose won't rot off. Hang on , white man in Oz,skin cancer, mmmmm maybe it will !!!
As an able-bodied person, I am given priveledges that are so daily and common I never think of them at all. here they are: 50 things I as an able-bodied person am given AUTOMATICALLY!!
1. I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of other able-bodied people most of the time.
2. I can avoid spending time with people whom I was trained to pity, patronise or mistrust and who have learned to mistrust my kind or me.
3. If I should need to move, I can be pretty sure of renting or purchasing housing in an area which I can afford and in which I would want to live.
4. I can be pretty sure that my neighbors in such a location will be neutral or pleasant to me.
5. I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed or harassed.
6. I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people who are equally able-bodied widely represented.
7. When I am told about our national heritage or about "civilization," I am shown that able-bodied people made it what it is.
8. I can be sure that my children will be given curricular materials that testify to the achievements of able-bodied people.
9. If I want to, I can be pretty sure of finding a publisher for any story about an able-bodied protagonist.
10. I can be pretty sure of having my voice heard in a group in which I am the only able-bodied member.
11. I can be casual about whether or not to listen to another person's voice in a group in which s/he is the only disabled member.
12. I can go into a music shop and count on finding the music of able-bodied people represented, or into a hairdresser's shop and find an able-bodied person who can cut my hair.
13. Whether I use checks, credit cards or cash, I can count on my able body not to work against the appearance of financial reliability.
14. I can arrange to protect my children, most of the time, from people who might not like them.
15. I do not have to educate my children to be aware of systemic disability discrimination for their own daily physical or emotional protection.
16. I can be pretty sure that my children's teachers and employers will tolerate them if they fit school and workplace norms. My chief worries about them do not concern others' attitudes toward their ability, or supposed lack of.
17. I can talk with my mouth full and not have people put this down to my physical disability.
18. I can swear, or dress in second hand clothes, or not answer letters, without having people attribute these choices to the immature morals, the poverty or the illiteracy of people with my disability.
19. I can speak in public to a powerful male group without affecting or challenging societal norms or embarrassing the sensibilities of able-bodied society.
20. I can do well in a challenging situation without being called a triumph over adversity or a hero.
21. I am never asked to speak for all the people who can be described as able-bodied.
22. I can remain oblivious to the issues and concerns of disabled people who constitute half the world's population without feeling in my culture any penalty for such oblivion.
23. I can criticize our government and talk about how much I dislike its inclusion policies and behavior without being seen as a social outsider.
24. I can be pretty sure that if I ask to talk to the "person in charge", I will be facing a person who is able-bodied.
25. I can easily buy posters, post-cards, picture books, greeting cards, dolls, toys and children's magazines featuring able-bodied people.
26. I can go home from most meetings of organizations I belong to feeling somewhat tied in, rather than isolated, out-of-place, outnumbered, unheard, held at a distance or feared.
27. I can be pretty sure that an argument with a disabled colleague is more likely to jeopardize his chances for advancement than to jeopardize mine.
28. If I declare there is a social issue at hand, or there isn't a social issue at hand, my able-bodied status will lend me more credibility for either position than a disabled person will have.
29. I can choose to ignore developments in disability studies writing and disability activist programs, or disparage them, or learn from them, but in any case, I can find ways to be more or less protected from negative consequences of any of these choices.
30. My culture gives me little fear about ignoring the perspectives and powers of disabled people.
31. I am not made acutely aware that my shape, bearing or body odor will be taken as a reflection on my disability.
32. I can worry about discrimination towards disabled people without being seen as self-interested or self-seeking.
33. I can take a job with an affirmative action employer without having my co-workers on the job suspect that I got it because of my disability.
34. If my day, week or year is going badly, I need not ask of each negative episode or situation whether it had discrimination overtones.
35. I can be pretty sure of finding people who would be willing to talk with me and advise me about my next steps, professionally, without them saying 'Make sure that whatever you choose, you're sure that you could handle it'.
36. I can think over many options, social, political, imaginative or professional, without asking whether an able-bodied person would be accepted or allowed to do what I want to do.
37. I can be late to a meeting without having the lateness reflect on my physical ability.
38. I can choose public accommodation without fearing that people of my physical ability cannot get in or will be mistreated in the places I have chosen.
39. I can arrange my activities so that I will never have to experience feelings of rejection owing to my physical ability, or lack of it.
40. If I have low credibility as a leader I can be sure that my physical ability, or lack of it, is not the problem.
41. I can easily find academic courses and institutions which give attention only to people of my physical ability.
42. I can expect figurative language and imagery in all of the arts to testify to experiences of my physical ability.
43. I can choose over-the-counter medicines, medications, bandages or dressings and expect them to be relevant and effective to my conditions the vast majority of the time.
44. I can travel alone or with my spouse without expecting embarrassment, patronisation or hostility in those who deal with us.
45. I have no difficulty finding neighborhoods where people consider our household entirely normal and representative of an ideal family unit.
46. My children are given texts and classes which implicitly support our kind of family unit and do not turn them against my choice of domestic partnership.
47. I will feel welcomed and "normal" in the usual walks of public life, institutional and social.
Prejudice exists everywhere.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
I didn't read; Get blamed for everything that is wrong with the other races on this planet. Just saying, I didn't see that one. I only scanned the 50 though.
I didn't read; Get blamed for everything that is wrong with the other races on this planet. Just saying, I didn't see that one. I only scanned the 50 though.
Hmm.. I want to comment on how great this response is but I'm still a little stunned that I'm actually agreeing with you about something.
LOL.....Nothing deflates your credibility and questions your intelligence quite like butchering the English language.
i would argue that nothing really deflates your credibility and questions your intelligence quite like hammering grammatical miscues, typos, and spelling mistakes on a fucking internet message board. These aren't graduate term papers, folks. They are posts on a message board. It is a very informal tool of communication.
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
I can't comment much on the original thread, as I have to admit I couldn't even contemplate reading 12 pages of discussion right now.... But I will add this.
I won't tell you what being white gets you in Australia, but I will tell you a few things that people who are born aboriginal must face.
(1) A life expectency of approximately 20 years less then non-aboriginal Australians.
(2) A far lower chance of finishing high school and an even smaller chance of attending a university then non-aboriginal Australians.
(3) A lower standard of living, including a lower wage level, then non-aboriginal australians.
Now as a biologist I know that there exists no biological reason for these statistics. There is no gene that causes aboriginals to drop out of school, no specific part of the aboriginal brain that causes them to be unable to occupy highly paid positions, and no flaw in the aboriginal body that makes them drop dead 20 years before the rest us.
Knowing this, it would seem obvious that the statistics I have mentioned above must be due, not to biology, but to other factors- most obviously a cataclysmic culture shock that occured 200 years ago and generations of poor policy that has not helped them to adapt.
So I guess I don't feel that it is a case of myself being born, as a white male, with extra privelages. Rather it is a case of some people being born without the privelages that they are entitled to. So I won't feel guilty for who I am- I doubt any indiginous person anywhere would want that- but I certainly won't stereotype and judge an entire group of people based on those individuals who fail to overcome some very difficult obsticles.
Not sure how/if that relates to other countries and cultures...
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barry bonds asked if babe ruth should have an asterik next to his name becuase he didn't face black pitching. where's your or anyone else's outrage?
it's satire. it's about everything. hence its title. :rolleyes:
and no one is safe. last week they approached hilary clinton and tried to get her to hire them as an intern. they had a resume and everything. though admittedly the resume was just beefcake shots. this week they tried to sell a mosque. no thing and no one is safe. also this week they were 'booking' people for speeding in a carpark. previously they've 'booked' people at bondi fro having pretentious tattoos.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
has always been, 200 years ago irish and italians where the urban destitutes. "scientific studies" showed that they commited more crimes. no shit, they were poor, they didn't have a ton of options. not much difference today. no one has to steal if they can get it themselves. (with exception of course)
Sounds fun, I'll check it out. MInd you, I have nearly been mown down in car parks by speeding maniacs, so that at least makes sense.
LOL.....Nothing deflates your credibility and questions your intelligence quite like butchering the English language.
the other foot in the gutter
sweet smell that they adore
I think I'd rather smother
-The Replacements-
holy shit you are right, and asians don't play rock and indians don't play professional basketball. is that why there are a handful of white rappers? what clown college are you graduating from?
no you don't, because no one listens to jazz. just hip hop.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Hootie, Living Colour and Fishbone are very upset right now.
the other foot in the gutter
sweet smell that they adore
I think I'd rather smother
-The Replacements-
wow. your school is not ABET accreditted.
oh lucy. they were 'booked' for doing 7 in a 5 zone. they were not amused. it was funny as.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
no they are wicked smart since rappers make more money.
Don't forget all the bitches and Cristal.
the other foot in the gutter
sweet smell that they adore
I think I'd rather smother
-The Replacements-
Beautiful post Toof
That's what I try to say, but it's been bugging me a lot lately. I don't like the idea of that kind of society and everyone I've talked to doesn't either. I've got a neurological explanation for why people think we do, but that's pretty long. It's rooted in the United States mainly because of the history. But these statements are made internationally. I've got my whole family history on CD and it's nothing like what I was basically taught in school. I was taught that "whites enslaved blacks", "men oppressed women", "Whites killed natives". Yea, history is a great tool, let's never have another Iraq by using the past for vengance. It seems we have to keep learning this lesson over and over again.
as is lenny kravitz. and someone better go dig up jimi and tell him he played the wrong damn music!
How mcuh money has Micheal Jordan or Michael Jackson donated to promote black education, how many schools does he sponsor, how many sports programmes does he fund ???
That is ironic !! It was actually the black community if Seattle that would not accept Hendrix's music, cos it was too white !!
Only one problem with this argument.....Michael Jackson is no longer black.
the other foot in the gutter
sweet smell that they adore
I think I'd rather smother
-The Replacements-
yeah but like all of us, he's black on the inside.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
but isn't it great to know you can be born a black male and end up a white woman?
I'm mostly red on the inside. Think my pancreas is kind of yellow.
well maybe...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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When you see me on the street, yell out "FAVO!!!"
I've been to alot of Pearl Jam shows;So fucking what.
Oh fuck, you just pointed out white man crime #51, I as a white man, can expect that my nose won't rot off. Hang on , white man in Oz,skin cancer, mmmmm maybe it will !!!
Prejudice exists everywhere.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
Hmm.. I want to comment on how great this response is but I'm still a little stunned that I'm actually agreeing with you about something.
i would argue that nothing really deflates your credibility and questions your intelligence quite like hammering grammatical miscues, typos, and spelling mistakes on a fucking internet message board. These aren't graduate term papers, folks. They are posts on a message board. It is a very informal tool of communication.
I won't tell you what being white gets you in Australia, but I will tell you a few things that people who are born aboriginal must face.
(1) A life expectency of approximately 20 years less then non-aboriginal Australians.
(2) A far lower chance of finishing high school and an even smaller chance of attending a university then non-aboriginal Australians.
(3) A lower standard of living, including a lower wage level, then non-aboriginal australians.
Now as a biologist I know that there exists no biological reason for these statistics. There is no gene that causes aboriginals to drop out of school, no specific part of the aboriginal brain that causes them to be unable to occupy highly paid positions, and no flaw in the aboriginal body that makes them drop dead 20 years before the rest us.
Knowing this, it would seem obvious that the statistics I have mentioned above must be due, not to biology, but to other factors- most obviously a cataclysmic culture shock that occured 200 years ago and generations of poor policy that has not helped them to adapt.
So I guess I don't feel that it is a case of myself being born, as a white male, with extra privelages. Rather it is a case of some people being born without the privelages that they are entitled to. So I won't feel guilty for who I am- I doubt any indiginous person anywhere would want that- but I certainly won't stereotype and judge an entire group of people based on those individuals who fail to overcome some very difficult obsticles.
Not sure how/if that relates to other countries and cultures...