prison rape: your thoughts

spongersponger Posts: 3,159
edited April 2008 in A Moving Train
I was profoundly struck by an editorial I read in the paper today regarding the frequency and severity of prison rape in both male and female US prisons.

Are convicts getting what they ultimately deserve, or is the widespread apathy of prison officials about this grotesque subject endangering the last hope of rehabilitation for society's misguided?

http://www.spr.org/
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    My thoughts? It is my main motivation for behaving myself.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    NO ONE, i repeat NO ONE deserves to be raped.
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
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    i just need to say
  • I agree with both of the above posts.
    Also, while this might be extra motivation not to go to prison, I believe it ends up hardening (no pun intended) and criminals and making them bitter. That can't help them when they get out.
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    (Because I know)
    Because I know how much time that wastes
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  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    Life feeds on life.
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    No one deserves it.
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    It should be prosecuted more vigorously.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    NO ONE, i repeat NO ONE deserves to be raped.
    except innocent americans because of actions by the US government over the years ;)
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,209
    Don't let us forget that they're many who are imprisoned who turn out later to be completely innocent. A crime that should never happen but unfortunately does.

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  • NO ONE, i repeat NO ONE deserves to be raped.
    x2
  • Aren't the stats 1 out of every 10 people are in Jail in the US, and 10 times more blacks than whites at that? or something like that..

    Kinda looks like they made the jails for black people...
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    NO ONE, i repeat NO ONE deserves to be raped.


    I agree to an extent... for me though, I could care less if child rapists are raped in prison.
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    I agree to an extent... for me though, I could care less if child rapists are raped in prison.

    Perpetuating a wrong does nothing to solve any problems. It's just revenge...which is never good.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • know1 wrote:
    Perpetuating a wrong does nothing to solve any problems. It's just revenge...which is never good.

    Two wrongs don't make a right.
    But two Wrights make an airplane.

    ;)
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    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • i'm pretty much anti-rape. thats my stance on this subject!
  • Gremmie95Gremmie95 Posts: 749
    NO ONE, i repeat NO ONE deserves to be raped.


    Child molesters and pedophiles deserve everything they get including ass raped.
  • JaneNYJaneNY Posts: 4,438
    My thoughts are first of all, no one should suffer rape, and that people who suffer this in prison are less likely to be rehabilitated, and more likely to continue to be a threat to society and cost the taxpayers more money. So it can be looked at as a practical matter as well as a humanitarian one and should be improved for a variety of reasons.
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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Aren't the stats 1 out of every 10 people are in Jail in the US, and 10 times more blacks than whites at that? or something like that..

    Kinda looks like they made the jails for black people...

    The US population crossed the 300 million mark in October of 2006.

    At year end 2006, there 2,258,983 Americans in prison or .75% of the population. So less than 1 out of every 100 Americans are in jail.
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  • KannKann Posts: 1,146
    Gremmie95 wrote:
    Child molesters and pedophiles deserve everything they get including ass raped.
    Vengeance is not justice. Or make sure your lawmakers make a new law stipulating pedophiles must be raped as a judgment of the people (and pray you never have to live a judicial mistake).
    I don't think anyone deserves to be raped, prison is used as a privation of your freedom and basic rights, not a place for torture.
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    Solat13 wrote:
    The US population crossed the 300 million mark in October of 2006.

    At year end 2006, there 2,258,983 Americans in prison or .75% of the population. So less than 1 out of every 100 Americans are in jail.


    http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/02/28/prison.population.ap/

    Report: 1 percent of U.S. adults behind bars

    Story Highlights :

    2.3 million U.S. adults incarcerated at beginning of 2008, Pew report says

    50 states spent $49 billion on corrections last year

    U.S. has more people in prison than any other country

    1 in 9 black males behind bars, report says

    NEW YORK (AP) -- For the first time in history, more than one in every 100 American adults is in jail or prison, according to a new report.

    The report, released Thursday by the Pew Center on the States, said the 50 states spent more than $49 billion on corrections last year, up from less than $11 billion 20 years earlier. The rate of increase for prison costs was six times greater than for higher education spending, the report said.

    Using updated state-by-state data, the report said 2,319,258 adults were held in U.S. prisons or jails at the
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    Tool ~~ Prison Sex
    =================================
    It took so long to remember just what happened.
    I was so young and vestal then,
    you know it hurt me,
    but I'm breathing so I guess I'm still alive
    even if signs seem to tell me otherwise.
    I've got my hands bound,
    my head down, my eyes closed,
    and my throat wide open.

    Do unto others, what has been done to me,
    Do unto others, what has been done to you?

    I'm treading water,
    I need to sleep a while.
    My lamb and martyr, you look so precious.
    Won't you come on up closer,
    close enough so I can smell you.
    I need you to feel this,
    I can't stand to burn too long.
    Release in sodomy.
    Oh, for one sweet moment I am whole.

    Do unto you now, what has been done to me,
    Do unto you now, what has been done?

    You're breathing so I guess you're still alive
    even if signs seem to tell me otherwise.
    Won't you come on a bit closer,
    close enough so I can smell you.
    I need you to feel this.
    I need this to make me whole.
    Release in sodomy.
    For I am your witness and
    blood and flesh can be trusted.(X2)
    And only this one holy medium brings me peace of mind.

    Got your hands bound, your head down,
    your eyes closed.
    You look so precious now.

    ( Show me something
    Thought I could make it end
    Thought I could wash the stains away
    Thought I could break the circle if I
    Slipped right into your skin
    So sweet was your surrender
    We have become one
    I have become my terror
    And you my precious lamb and martyr.) *

    I have found some kind of temporary sanity in this
    shit, blood, and cum on my hands.

    I've...come...round...full circle.
    My lamb and martyr, this will be over, soon.
    You look so precious.(X4)
    You look so precious, now,
    You look so precious...
  • memememe Posts: 4,695
    Kann wrote:
    Vengeance is not justice. Or make sure your lawmakers make a new law stipulating pedophiles must be raped as a judgment of the people (and pray you never have to live a judicial mistake).
    I don't think anyone deserves to be raped, prison is used as a privation of your freedom and basic rights, not a place for torture.

    Very well said.
    ... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
  • MCGMCG Posts: 780
    NO ONE, i repeat NO ONE deserves to be raped.


    I think convicted rapists do. Nothing like having the shoe on the other foot in order to truly be able to contemplate your own actions.
    Which came first,
    the bad idea or me befallen by it?
  • Tool ~~ Prison Sex
    =================================
    It took so long to remember just what happened.
    I was so young and vestal then,
    you know it hurt me,
    but I'm breathing so I guess I'm still alive
    even if signs seem to tell me otherwise.
    I've got my hands bound,
    my head down, my eyes closed,
    and my throat wide open.

    Do unto others, what has been done to me,
    Do unto others, what has been done to you?

    I'm treading water,
    I need to sleep a while.
    My lamb and martyr, you look so precious.
    Won't you come on up closer,
    close enough so I can smell you.
    I need you to feel this,
    I can't stand to burn too long.
    Release in sodomy.
    Oh, for one sweet moment I am whole.

    Do unto you now, what has been done to me,
    Do unto you now, what has been done?

    You're breathing so I guess you're still alive
    even if signs seem to tell me otherwise.
    Won't you come on a bit closer,
    close enough so I can smell you.
    I need you to feel this.
    I need this to make me whole.
    Release in sodomy.
    For I am your witness and
    blood and flesh can be trusted.(X2)
    And only this one holy medium brings me peace of mind.

    Got your hands bound, your head down,
    your eyes closed.
    You look so precious now.

    ( Show me something
    Thought I could make it end
    Thought I could wash the stains away
    Thought I could break the circle if I
    Slipped right into your skin
    So sweet was your surrender
    We have become one
    I have become my terror
    And you my precious lamb and martyr.) *

    I have found some kind of temporary sanity in this
    shit, blood, and cum on my hands.

    I've...come...round...full circle.
    My lamb and martyr, this will be over, soon.
    You look so precious.(X4)
    You look so precious, now,
    You look so precious...

    thats a great song to whip out on karaoke night.
  • Gremmie95Gremmie95 Posts: 749
    Kann wrote:
    Vengeance is not justice. Or make sure your lawmakers make a new law stipulating pedophiles must be raped as a judgment of the people (and pray you never have to live a judicial mistake).
    I don't think anyone deserves to be raped, prison is used as a privation of your freedom and basic rights, not a place for torture.

    I have no desire to see such a law passed nor do I think it is necessary. In this regard, I see it as poetic justice.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Gremmie95 wrote:
    Child molesters and pedophiles deserve everything they get including ass raped.


    In my opinion that is a disgusting position to take. It lowers you a lot closer to the level of the criminal.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    20 years to life is a long time without lovin'! Some people need it more then others, BITCH! ;)
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • Gremmie95Gremmie95 Posts: 749
    know1 wrote:
    In my opinion that is a disgusting position to take. It lowers you a lot closer to the level of the criminal.

    Well hey, thats why it is your opinion. Evidently you don't find the crime as disgusting as I do. Enlighten me with you solution.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Gremmie95 wrote:
    Well hey, thats why it is your opinion. Evidently you don't find the crime as disgusting as I do. Enlighten me with you solution.

    No - I find the crime as disgusting as anyone else does.

    That does not mean that I believe in revenge justice by committing the same crime back to the person.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • the problem is i dont think any 250 lb gangbanging murderers are getting rammed in the ass , and they deserve it far more than scrawny 19 year old in jail because his girlfriend was 17.
  • Gremmie95Gremmie95 Posts: 749
    know1 wrote:
    No - I find the crime as disgusting as anyone else does.

    That does not mean that I believe in revenge justice by committing the same crime back to the person.

    we agree to disagree.
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