prison rape: your thoughts

meme

Kann wrote:

Vengeance is not justice. Or make sure your lawmakers make a new law stipulating pedophiles must be raped as a judgment of the people (and pray you never have to live a judicial mistake).
I don't think anyone deserves to be raped, prison is used as a privation of your freedom and basic rights, not a place for torture.

Very well said.

MCG

catefrances wrote:

NO ONE, i repeat NO ONE deserves to be raped.

I think convicted rapists do. Nothing like having the shoe on the other foot in order to truly be able to contemplate your own actions.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

flywallyfly wrote:

Tool ~~ Prison Sex
=================================
It took so long to remember just what happened.
I was so young and vestal then,
you know it hurt me,
but I'm breathing so I guess I'm still alive
even if signs seem to tell me otherwise.
I've got my hands bound,
my head down, my eyes closed,
and my throat wide open.

Do unto others, what has been done to me,
Do unto others, what has been done to you?

I'm treading water,
I need to sleep a while.
My lamb and martyr, you look so precious.
Won't you come on up closer,
close enough so I can smell you.
I need you to feel this,
I can't stand to burn too long.
Release in sodomy.
Oh, for one sweet moment I am whole.

Do unto you now, what has been done to me,
Do unto you now, what has been done?

You're breathing so I guess you're still alive
even if signs seem to tell me otherwise.
Won't you come on a bit closer,
close enough so I can smell you.
I need you to feel this.
I need this to make me whole.
Release in sodomy.
For I am your witness and
blood and flesh can be trusted.(X2)
And only this one holy medium brings me peace of mind.

Got your hands bound, your head down,
your eyes closed.
You look so precious now.

( Show me something
Thought I could make it end
Thought I could wash the stains away
Thought I could break the circle if I
Slipped right into your skin
So sweet was your surrender
We have become one
I have become my terror
And you my precious lamb and martyr.) *

I have found some kind of temporary sanity in this
shit, blood, and cum on my hands.

I've...come...round...full circle.
My lamb and martyr, this will be over, soon.
You look so precious.(X4)
You look so precious, now,
You look so precious...

thats a great song to whip out on karaoke night.

Gremmie95

Kann wrote:

Vengeance is not justice. Or make sure your lawmakers make a new law stipulating pedophiles must be raped as a judgment of the people (and pray you never have to live a judicial mistake).
I don't think anyone deserves to be raped, prison is used as a privation of your freedom and basic rights, not a place for torture.

I have no desire to see such a law passed nor do I think it is necessary. In this regard, I see it as poetic justice.

know1

Gremmie95 wrote:

Child molesters and pedophiles deserve everything they get including ass raped.

In my opinion that is a disgusting position to take. It lowers you a lot closer to the level of the criminal.

even flow?

20 years to life is a long time without lovin'! Some people need it more then others, BITCH!

Gremmie95

know1 wrote:

In my opinion that is a disgusting position to take. It lowers you a lot closer to the level of the criminal.

Well hey, thats why it is your opinion. Evidently you don't find the crime as disgusting as I do. Enlighten me with you solution.

know1

Gremmie95 wrote:

Well hey, thats why it is your opinion. Evidently you don't find the crime as disgusting as I do. Enlighten me with you solution.

No - I find the crime as disgusting as anyone else does.

That does not mean that I believe in revenge justice by committing the same crime back to the person.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

the problem is i dont think any 250 lb gangbanging murderers are getting rammed in the ass , and they deserve it far more than scrawny 19 year old in jail because his girlfriend was 17.

Gremmie95

know1 wrote:

No - I find the crime as disgusting as anyone else does.

That does not mean that I believe in revenge justice by committing the same crime back to the person.

we agree to disagree.

Gremmie95

MrSmith wrote:

the problem is i dont think any 250 lb gangbanging murderers are getting rammed in the ass , and they deserve it far more than scrawny 19 year old in jail because his girlfriend was 17.

not what I'm referring to.

FinsburyParkCarrots

Now, what leads to prison rape, apart from the obvious? Cell overcrowding, and a lack of effective stewarding don't help. Serious reforms of prison services need to be considered, whether these institutions are run by private companies or the state. The criminal justice system in many countries needs an overhaul, because the bottom line is, whether the punishment fits the crime or not, people can't afford to keep prisons the way they're being run and overpopulated.

Personally, I can't see why inmates are denied the vote, let alone other rights. If the poverty that led you to crime was caused by one party's politics, and you think an alternative would give you chance to rehabilitate and get a job once you're outside, you should have a say in your future.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Solat13 wrote:

The US population crossed the 300 million mark in October of 2006.

At year end 2006, there 2,258,983 Americans in prison or .75% of the population. So less than 1 out of every 100 Americans are in jail.

Oops typo on the zero(s)...

don't drop the soap...

Gremmie95

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

Personally, I can't see why inmates are denied the vote, let alone other rights. If the poverty that led you to crime was caused by one party's politics, and you think an alternative would give you chance to rehabilitate and get a job once you're outside, you should have a say in your future.

Interesting idea. Not sure I agree with it, but I can't say I've ever thought about it that way.

g under p

I first saw this video back in 1992 on Mtv and what a haunting video it was. I wish I could find it and give a little insight on how powerful the words are.

Artist: The Disposable Heroes Of Hiphoprisy lyrics
Album: Hypocrisy Is the Greatest Luxury
Year: 1992
Title: Language Of Violence



The first day of school was always the hardest
The first day of school, the hallways the darkest
Like a gauntlet
the voices haunted
Walking in with his thin skin, lowered chin
He knew the names that they would taunt him with
Faggot, sissy, punk, queen, queer
Although he'd never had sex in his 15 years
And when they harassed him it was for a reason
And when they provoked him it became open season
for the fox and the hunter, the sparks and the thunder
that pushed the boy under, then pillage and plunder
It kind of makes you wonder
how one can hurt another

But dehumanizing the victim makes things simpler
It's like breathing with a respirator
It eases the conscience of even the most conscious
and calculating violator
Words can reduce a person to an object,
something more easy to hate
An inanimate entity, completely disposable,
no problem to obliterate

[CHORUS:]
But death is the silence
in this language of violence
Death is the silence
But death is the silence
in this cycle of violence
death is the silence

It's tough to be young, the young long to be tougher
When we pick on someone else it might make us feel rougher
Abused by their fathers but was at home though
so to prove to each other that they were not homos
The exclamation of the phobic fury
executioner, a judge and jury
The mob mentality, individuality was nowhere
Dignity forgotten at the bottom of a dumb old dare and a numb cold stare
On the way home it was back to name calling
Ten against one they had his back up against the wall and
they reveled in their laughter as they surrounded him
But it wasn't a game when they up jumped and grounded him
They picked up their bats with their muscles straining
and they decided they were gonna beat this fella's brain in
with an awful, powerful, showerful, an hour full of violence
Inflict the strictest brutality and dominance
They didn't hear him screaming, they didn't hear him pleading
They ran like cowards and left the boy bleeding
in a pool of red 'til all tears were shed
and his eyes quietly slid into the back of his head
dead...

[CHORUS]

[x2]
You won't see the face 'til the eyelids drop
You won't hear the screaming until it stops

The boy's parents were gone and his grandmother had raised him
She was mad she had no form of retaliation
The pack didn't have to worry about being on a hitlist
But the thing they never thought about was that there was a witness
to this senseless crime, right place wrong time
Tried as an adult one of them was gonna do hard time

The first day of prison was always the hardest
The first day of prison, the hallways the darkest
Like a gauntlet
the voices haunted
Faggot, sissy, punk, queen, queer
Words he used before had a new meaning in here
As a group of men in front of him came near
for the first time in his life the young bully felt fear
He'd never been on this side of the name calling
Five against one they had his back up against the wall and
he had never questioned his own sexuality
but this group of men didn't hesitate in their reality
with an awful, powerful, showerful, an hour full of violence
Inflict the strictest brutality and dominance
They didn't hear him screaming
They didn't hear him pleading
They took what they wanted and then left him bleeding in the corner
The giant reduced to jack horner

But dehumanizing the victim makes things simpler
It's like breathing with a respirator
It eases the conscience of even the most conscious
and calculating violator

The power of words, don't take it for granted
when you hear a man ranting
Don't just read the lips, be more sublime than this
Put everything in context, is this a tale of rough justice
in a land where there's no justice at all ?
Who is really the victim ? Or are we all the cause, and victim of it all ?

[CHORUS]

[x2]
You won't see the face 'til the eyelids drop
You won't hear the screaming until it stop


Peace

writersu

blackredyellow wrote:

I agree to an extent... for me though, I could care less if child rapists are raped in prison.

yeah, I know, but for the sake of what the system is "suppose" to be doing which is,of course, to rehabilitate, prisoners should have human rights or maybe the prisons would do better to separate the really hard core criminals from the less offensive criminals.

and yeah I do feel deep down no one should be treated like an animal but I also think that the child killers, seriel killers, child rapists, etc. should be thrown into an "Escape From NY" kind of scenario and then they can all be as crazy as they like.

writersu

MrSmith wrote:

the problem is i dont think any 250 lb gangbanging murderers are getting rammed in the ass , and they deserve it far more than scrawny 19 year old in jail because his girlfriend was 17.

yeah, and this is like a WHOLE other subject but that "crime" is hardly a crime. 19 yr olds and 17 yr olds are really not that different in age. now, 17 and like 30 is more messed up for sure, but 17 and 19?

beachdweller

sponger wrote:

I was profoundly struck by an editorial I read in the paper today regarding the frequency and severity of prison rape in both male and female US prisons.

Are convicts getting what they ultimately deserve, or is the widespread apathy of prison officials about this grotesque subject endangering the last hope of rehabilitation for society's misguided?

http://www.spr.org/

no one deserves to be raped, but if they did, prison rape can't be looked at as fair or deserving, because not everyone is getting it in the end (pun inteneded).

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

writersu wrote:

yeah, and this is like a WHOLE other subject but that "crime" is hardly a crime. 19 yr olds and 17 yr olds are really not that different in age. now, 17 and like 30 is more messed up for sure, but 17 and 19?

and whats worse is that the law varies from state to state. So in one state its perfectly legal and in the next state over you go to prison for rape and get put on the sex offender list for the rest of your life. that makes sense...

Cosmo

sponger wrote:

I was profoundly struck by an editorial I read in the paper today regarding the frequency and severity of prison rape in both male and female US prisons.

Are convicts getting what they ultimately deserve, or is the widespread apathy of prison officials about this grotesque subject endangering the last hope of rehabilitation for society's misguided?

http://www.spr.org/

...
Hasn't prison rape been going on since the invention of prison? I mean, I always thought that everyone already knew this.
...
This is why I don't think it's such a good thing to just throw everyone in prison. Murderers, rapists, child molestors, Charlie Manson... yes. The kid that got busted for smoking pot at the park in one of those hillbilly corn whiskey states... no.