Dying Bees theories...

THC
THC Posts: 525
edited May 2007 in A Moving Train
I was wondering what people think is the cause of the dying bees? If people haven't heard...like 85% of the Bee population has been dying. They have a hand in production of 90% of our food supply through pollination...so its kinda scary. On the news near where i live the other day...they did a story on it...and quoted a bee keeper as saying..."there are several 'smoking guns'.." but then they never said what they are....

I was wondering if anyone has any ideas...or has heard anything that seems like a legitimate reason why they are dying. The only thing i can think of is either a disease in the species...or cell phone towers and such.

what do people think?
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  • binger
    binger Posts: 179
    Bees are able to see UV. Maybe that has something to do with it?
    I want to point out that people who seem to have no power, whether working people, people of color, or women -- once they organize and protest and create movements -- have a voice no government can suppress. Howard Zinn
  • THC
    THC Posts: 525
    binger wrote:
    Bees are able to see UV. Maybe that has something to do with it?

    that's interesting. like the whole...global warming thing....atmosphere letting in too many UV rays...and that is killing more bees now?
    “Kept in a small bowl, the goldfish will remain small. With more space, the fish can grow double, triple, or quadruple its size.”
    -Big Fish
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    I have heard theories of Cell Phone traffic to mite that eat at the membranes of their wings.
    Who knows?
    ...
    But, it is scary... according to Einstein... after the bees become extinct, Mankind has about 4 years.
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  • THC
    THC Posts: 525
    Cosmo wrote:
    I have heard theories of Cell Phone traffic to mite that eat at the membranes of their wings.
    Who knows?
    ...
    But, it is scary... according to Einstein... after the bees become extinct, Mankind has about 4 years.



    get the fuck out of here...Einstein actually addressed this topic? and he said that?????
    “Kept in a small bowl, the goldfish will remain small. With more space, the fish can grow double, triple, or quadruple its size.”
    -Big Fish
  • binger
    binger Posts: 179
    Bees can see UV
    On the other side,
    Pit Vipers can see infrared
    And Hammerhead sharks Follow Magentic north and south in their migratory patterns.

    We are out of touch with the world around us.

    Einstein said that when all the bees die off, humans have about 4 years to live.
    I want to point out that people who seem to have no power, whether working people, people of color, or women -- once they organize and protest and create movements -- have a voice no government can suppress. Howard Zinn
  • binger
    binger Posts: 179
    A pamphlet distributed [in Brussels] by the National Union of French Apiculture quoted Albert Einstein. "If the bee disappears from the surface of the earth, man would have no more than four years to live. No more bees, no more pollination ... no more men!" [From Chris Mclaughlin's "Fearful Beekeepers Plead for Curbs on Honey Imports," The Scotsman, 25 January 1994.]

    The beekeepers' warnings had some heavyweight expert support. A pamphlet distributed by the National Union of French Apiculture quoted Albert Einstein. "If the bee disappears from the surface of the earth, man would have no more than four years to live," Einstein was quoted as saying. "No more bees, no more pollination ... no more men!" [From Paul Ames's report for the Associated Press, "Life's Not So Sweet for Europe's Embattled Beekeepers," 24 January 1994.]
    I want to point out that people who seem to have no power, whether working people, people of color, or women -- once they organize and protest and create movements -- have a voice no government can suppress. Howard Zinn
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    THC wrote:
    get the fuck out of here...Einstein actually addressed this topic? and he said that?????
    ...
    http://www.snopes.com/quotes/einstein/bees.asp
    ...
    Conclusion: Undetermined
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    i would suspect it has something to do with what we are doing to the environment ... the arctic seal that recently got rescued in florida is yet another indication ...
  • binger
    binger Posts: 179
    More to add. This is a topic that deeply interests me. Have we thought about the trickle down effects of what may happen. Already farmers are importing bees from all over the world to keep up with supply and demand. This concerns me for 2 reasons.

    Didn't when the British invaded Africa, for whatever reason, the bees brought there combined with the African bee and what resulted was the Killer Bee. I'm pretty sure that it was purposefully bred, but still. When 50,000 Austraiian bees are coming to a Montana farm to offset the shortage, (and that's one farm) what allergens are they bringing with them? What kind of effect will it have on future generations?

    Humans have more of a global impact than we are aware of.
    I want to point out that people who seem to have no power, whether working people, people of color, or women -- once they organize and protest and create movements -- have a voice no government can suppress. Howard Zinn
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    polaris wrote:
    i would suspect it has something to do with what we are doing to the environment ... the arctic seal that recently got rescued in florida is yet another indication ...
    ...
    We will be the ultimate demise of our species... well, actually, our arrogance and our denial will do us in. Mother Earth can only take so much. Mass Extinction is a means for her to heal.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • ajedigecko
    ajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,431
    everything will be ok.
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    I was reading an article last night that said bee's were traveling with GM crops/pollen back to the hives. Also another story was done about this in 1999. But now it's just on a whole new level.

    People ignored it then. now we are facing a very big problem.
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    We will be the ultimate demise of our species... well, actually, our arrogance and our denial will do us in. Mother Earth can only take so much. Mass Extinction is a means for her to heal.

    unfortunately, suffering discriminates ... and it will be those with all the power and wealth who will survive ...
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    binger wrote:
    More to add. This is a topic that deeply interests me. Have we thought about the trickle down effects of what may happen. Already farmers are importing bees from all over the world to keep up with supply and demand. This concerns me for 2 reasons.

    Didn't when the British invaded Africa, for whatever reason, the bees brought there combined with the African bee and what resulted was the Killer Bee. I'm pretty sure that it was purposefully bred, but still. When 50,000 Austraiian bees are coming to a Montana farm to offset the shortage, (and that's one farm) what allergens are they bringing with them? What kind of effect will it have on future generations?

    Humans have more of a global impact than we are aware of.

    ha ha......Killer bees are just another human experiment that kind of went wrong. Cross breeding, lost queens, oops, voila.
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    polaris wrote:
    unfortunately, suffering discriminates ... and it will be those with all the power and wealth who will survive ...
    ...
    How will they without the infrastructure support of all of us 'little grey people'? I'm guessing I'm have better survivor skills than say... Paris Hilton or Karl Rove.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    How will they without the infrastructure support of all of us 'little grey people'? I'm guessing I'm have better survivor skills than say... Paris Hilton or Karl Rove.

    we are the powerful and wealthy!
  • 69charger
    69charger Posts: 1,045
    Maybe they were all just really old. ;)
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Cause: Mass denial of reality
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Well my theory is that they keep reading Ahnimus' long winded posts and die of boredom.



    just kidding with you.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • musicismylife78
    musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    I think its obvious this is a result of global warming and climate change. Its not as if we needed yet another piece of evidence to show we are all doomed if we dont change our way of life.

    It also shows why I think all life is connected, why I am a buddhist and why I am a vegetarian, and why I am pacifist.

    One wouldnt think the death of bees would have much impact. But as articles from CNN point out, 90 percent of our food comes from polinated stuff or from bees related products.

    This is going to have major ramifications. Its sad.

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