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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,717
    edited March 2019
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I actually agree with jeffbr on this. The parties can decide for themselves who moderates. But my concern was that Trump had stated (or at least I read that he stated) he would not participate in any debate that isn't hosted by Fox. I assumed that meant the general election. 
    See, this is why Fox has to be ruled out. In a normal world barring a particular network would not be acceptable, but we're talking about Trump and Fox News. The usual rules do NOT apply in this case, IMO. Especially since in this case, Fox would favour Trump, not the other candidates from the Republican party. Of course Trump wants to demand that Fox do it!
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,599
    who chooses the moderators in the general?
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,853
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    who chooses the moderators in the general?
    I looked it up to be sure, but it's what I thought

    "The moderators were, as always, chosen by the nonpartisan Commission on Presidential Debates, which governs the timing and moderation of the quadrennial events."
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,599
    PJ_Soul said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I actually agree with jeffbr on this. The parties can decide for themselves who moderates. But my concern was that Trump had stated (or at least I read that he stated) he would not participate in any debate that isn't hosted by Fox. I assumed that meant the general election. 
    See, this is why Fox has to be ruled out. In a normal world barring a particular network would not be acceptable, but we're talking about Trump and Fox News. The usual rules do NOT apply in this case, IMO. Especially since in this case, Fox would favour Trump, not the other candidates from the Republican party. Of course Trump wants to demand that Fox do it!
    you do that and you risk legitimizing their claims of the left wanting to extinguish them and forging an uprising for themselves and trump in the process. it's difficult to ignore that they (apparently) have the highest cable news ratings. how do you legitimately shut that out?

    but obviously legitimizing "state news" is also an issue. 
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,853
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_on_Presidential_Debates

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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,476
    Always with hard hitting important news stories of the day....


  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,717
    edited March 2019
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I actually agree with jeffbr on this. The parties can decide for themselves who moderates. But my concern was that Trump had stated (or at least I read that he stated) he would not participate in any debate that isn't hosted by Fox. I assumed that meant the general election. 
    See, this is why Fox has to be ruled out. In a normal world barring a particular network would not be acceptable, but we're talking about Trump and Fox News. The usual rules do NOT apply in this case, IMO. Especially since in this case, Fox would favour Trump, not the other candidates from the Republican party. Of course Trump wants to demand that Fox do it!
    you do that and you risk legitimizing their claims of the left wanting to extinguish them and forging an uprising for themselves and trump in the process. it's difficult to ignore that they (apparently) have the highest cable news ratings. how do you legitimately shut that out?

    but obviously legitimizing "state news" is also an issue. 
    Yes, like you say, you also risk allowing Trump to increase the power of Fox News as what would essentially be a state-run media network. I know which one I prefer, and which one is far more dangerous. I personally think that allowing that kind of shit go on just out of a fear of being criticized for doing the right thing that's best for democracy is a terrible idea. This is how fascist ideas take hold over time. At some point, people have to just start fighting back rather than being scared to.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,438
    The White House Press Corps has had one press conference in the last 79-80 days and  has had to instead watch as WH officials trot out to the Faux News tent, answer questions for the Faux News correspondents and then try to get answers to shouted questions as they trot back inside of the WH. If you ain’t watching Faux News, you ain’t getting the propaganda. Welcome to AmeriKKKa. The dems are right to exclude Faux from their debates and fuck the optics. Faux News viewers are welcome to tune into reality.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,476
    Propagating more fear, more hate, more ignorance,  more stupidity......


  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Bentleyspop said:
    Propagating more fear, more hate, more ignorance,  more stupidity......


    I’m sure that religious persecution is in the Constitution, right? 
     
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,995
    No Tucker Carlson talk?
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    No Tucker Carlson talk?
    Surprise! He's a POS.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,599
    did you see his "statement"? fucker won't even apologize. he's using it to plug his show. 
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    did you see his "statement"? fucker won't even apologize. he's using it to plug his show. 
    An apology wouldn't be sincere anyway. 
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,476
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    did you see his "statement"? fucker won't even apologize. he's using it to plug his show. 
    And probably an ambassadorship or cabinet position 
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,476
    Oh the horror....


  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    Bentleyspop said:
    Oh the horror....


    He wore a tan suit once too.  Add this all up and it is the biggest disgrace to the presidency ever.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,476
    Smellyman said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Oh the horror....


    He wore a tan suit once too.  Add this all up and it is the biggest disgrace to the presidency ever.
    Not to mention all the horrible things he did and said.
    How he ruined America
    How he alienated friends and allies

  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,599
    Bentleyspop said:
    Oh the horror....


    holy shit. I can't believe fox news is real. and real humans watch that refuse. 
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Bentleyspop said:
    Oh the horror....


    This would be a perfect parody of Fox. Sadly, it appears to be real. 

     
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