Gulf of Tonkin 2.0 - Iranian Warships TAUNTING US FLEET?
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You guys getting this news?
US has already ISSUED A STERN STATEMENT
"urging Iranian ships to not take PROVOCATIVE ACTION against US navy"
Uh oh.
Anyone believe this?
Or is this just Gulf of Tonkin 2.0
where we lie and say they are attacking us, when in reality we are provoking THEM, and then we use it as an excuse to invade and hype the hell out of a fake inciden as justification?
Look up "Gulf of Tonkin".
It is DOCUMENTED!
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US has already ISSUED A STERN STATEMENT
"urging Iranian ships to not take PROVOCATIVE ACTION against US navy"
Uh oh.
Anyone believe this?
Or is this just Gulf of Tonkin 2.0
where we lie and say they are attacking us, when in reality we are provoking THEM, and then we use it as an excuse to invade and hype the hell out of a fake inciden as justification?
Look up "Gulf of Tonkin".
It is DOCUMENTED!
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If I opened it now would you not understand?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
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Iran is smack dab at the center of the bullseye, and the wolves are getting hungrier by the minute.
It would take a miracle for Iran not to be attacked.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20061024&articleId=3593
10 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - In what U.S. officials called a serious provocation, Iranian boats harassed and provoked three U.S. Navy ships in the strategic Strait of Hormuz, threatening to explode the American vessels.
The official said he didn't have the precise transcript of communications that passed between the two forces, but said the Iranians radioed something like "we're coming at you and you'll explode in a couple minutes."
Iranian officials were not immediately available for comment Monday, and there was no news of the incident on Iranian state-run media.
"Without specific reference to this incident in the Strait of Hormuz, the United States will confront Iranian behavior where it seeks to do harm either to us or to our friends and allies in the region," McCormack told reporters. "There is wide support for that within the region and certainly that's not going to change."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080107/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_navy_iran
They were taunting them via radio "You amerikan piigs,leave britaney alune!"
Not sure if you are somehow cracking a joke or what, but...
the real news, THIRTY TWO MINUTES AGO:
Pentagon Says Iran Boats Provoked US Warships in Strait of Hormuz
Strait of Hormuz = area of Iraq that Iran wanted to capture a decade ago.
Right near all the oil fields.
it is THE MOUTH OUT TO SEA from the oil fileds of iraq\iran.
If Iran controlled the Mouth, we would be fucked.
It is also where ALL oil is loaded on to ships.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
http://news.aol.com/?feature=20080107101809990001
Pentagon Says Ships Harassed by Iran
By PAULINE JELINEK,
Posted: 2008-01-07 10:18:41
Filed Under: World News
WASHINGTON (Jan. 7) - In what is being called a serious provocation, Iranian Revolutionary Guard boats harassed and provoked three U.S. Navy ships in the strategic Strait of Hormuz, officials said Monday.
U.S. forces were on the verge of firing on the Iranian boats in the early Sunday incident, when the boats ended the incident and turned and moved away, said a Pentagon official.
"It is the most serious provocation of this sort that we've seen yet," said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on the record.
The incident occurred at about 5 a.m. local time Sunday as a U.S. Navy cruiser, destroyer and frigate were transiting the strait on their way into the Persian Gulf.
"Five small boats were acting in a very aggressive way, charging the ships, dropping boxes in the water in front of the ships and causing our ships to take evasive maneuvers," the Pentagon official said.
"There were no injuries but there very well could have been," he said, adding that the Iranian boats turned away "literally at the very moment that U.S. forced were preparing to open fire" in self defense.
He said he didn't have the precise transcript of communications that passed between the two forces, but the Iranians radioed something to the effect that "we're coming at you and you'll explode in a couple minutes."
Historical tensions between the two nations have increased in recent years over Washington's charge that Tehran has been developing nuclear weapons and supplying and training Iraqi insurgents using roadside bombs - the No. 1 killer of U.S. troops in Iraq.
In another incident off it's coast, Iranian Revolutionary Guard sailors last March captured 15 British sailors and held them for nearly two weeks.
The 15 sailors from HMS Cornwall, including one woman, were captured on March 23. Iran claims the crew, operating in a small patrol craft, had intruded into Iranian waters - a claim denied by Britain.
Last year? How bout every second the clock ticks. Iran isn't going away. I think you're missing a lot of the background details on this situation, and what fate is destined for Iran, despite what the MSM tells you. You see...they have too much oil under their feet.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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I hope it never has to. If it does, I will lose a chunk if inspiration for the future. Not over any one country and their actions in particular, just the whole circumstance of what life on this earth is all about (and going to be about).
Not that I don't already know (survival of the most apt), but it will just drive it home a little deeper that that situation is running away at an alarming rate.
Had a little revelation last night and again this morning and am getting a pang of free will tossed at me in 3D today.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2IrelAO52M
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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ah piss bucket.
i thought you meant video CONFIRMATION of the event itself.
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I call bullshit on this wholething.
They are saying there are reports of a verbal threat coming over the airwaves, and also adding "UNCONFIRMED" "Military Officials can NOT CONFIRM SOURCE OF MESSAGE"
PUH-LEASE!
STFU if its not confirmed you shitbags!
[uh. i mean the media. not you roland. lol]
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If I opened it now would you not understand?
This is directed at the US Government, or me?
lol
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Come on, when is the last time you had this much beforehand announcement and detail of a trip for Bush anywhere, let alone to the Middle East? We know were he is going and the fact that he is staying 3 days. Israel has made it a point to publicly outline the security precautions being taken, from extra police, to clearing air space, the fact the special helicopters are being flown in from the U.S. to Bush's use, plus all vehicles used by Bush and his people are being flown in from the States. That's allot of detail for Israel to release on any State visit. Even that silly converted American muslim was allowed to call for Bush's assassination and he's in a supermax prison.
You know there is going to be an attempt on Bush's life, just like his father's. In this scenario, a bunch of Israel citizens and, of course, some of their children will be killed. Israel, with the backing of the U.S., will have an excuse it needs to bomb Iran.
Such a thing does not exist. If it did, it would be the first thing out there. Not this empty shell of a turd story.
You are going to blow up in a few moments...OOoooo soo scary...
This is called planting the seeds of doubt.
100% bullshite that get people's heads thinking. Societal mental conditioning.
what a bunch of goombahs
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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When I heard this today, The Bay of Tonkin was the first thing that came to my mind. The event that set off the Vietnam War. Since we can't piss them off enough to attack them we WILL try and set them up like they attacked US.
That will look much better in American eyes just like it did against Japan and it worked.
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Same here. I called bullshit as soon as I read it.
Another habit says its long overdue
Another habit like an unwanted friend
I'm so happy with my righteous self
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
But with all of the lies and bullshit this administration has pulled off in the recent past... how do we even know if these are actually Iranians doing this?
That is the delima the Bush/Cheney Administration has laid upon us. What are we suppose to believe anymore?
Like others have previously stated... 10 years ago I would have taken our government's word regarding this incident. Today... I question it.
WHY?
Because of the way our government has behaved lately. Don't blame me... blame Bush, Cheney, Rove and the rest of those lying pieces of shit.
Hail, Hail!!!
I've said it before they're worse than the Mob and the profit from war better that the Mob ever did on the streets.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Probably because Iraq went so smoothly. Man that was some sweet war victory right there.
I like the youtube vid of those guys pouring taxpayer dollars straight into the ocean. That ocean never had a chance.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/news/world/video/143000/bb/143544_16x9_bb.asx?ad=1&ct=50
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/news/world/audio/143000/bb/143551_au_bb.asx?ad=1&ct=50
Iran is coming, hook or crook....probably the latter.
More for us less for them.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Okay.
Visual confirmation.
So we've got a couple of crazy Iranians.
:eek:
As to the question "why didn't we open fire sooner?"
I'm gonna go with, SHIP vs. BOAT!
We had a fleet of at least what looked like 2 destroyers or cruisers (?not a navy guy) and apparently 2+ (i heard someone say 5 on the film) BOATS ... little speed boats ...
what were they gonna do? Blow us up with an ak and a grenade? :rolleyes:
This is fucking ridiculous.
Real or not.
That they would try to hype this for war is pathetic.
We're talking a bout a tiny little 3rd rate dictatorship with a puppet president that apparently feels somewhat rationaly IRRITATED with us, and their troops, probably of their own volition (you think command told them, "hey go piss off those ships!") decided to get frisky with some destroyers.
big whoop.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Some drunk idiots out whooping it up in a few speed boats is what I see
Can it be confirmed they were Iranian national guard is the question.
even still.. laughable
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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by Stuart Williams 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
TEHRAN (AFP) - Iran accused the United States on Wednesday of "clumsily" fabricating footage claiming to show Iranian speedboats harassing US ships, as Washington issued a new warning to its archfoe on the first day of a Middle East visit by President George W. Bush.
"The voices and pictures broadcast by the Pentagon about the latest incident have been fabricated so clumsily that the pictures and voices in the video are not even synchronized," the Guards commander added.
"That fact that it is a fake is clear to all."
Before arriving in Israel, Iran's arch enemy, Bush lashed out at Tehran for what he described as a "provocative act" in the strategic waterway.
"We viewed it as a provocative act. It is a dangerous situation and they should not have done it, pure and simple," Bush declared on his first visit to the Jewish state since taking office in 2001.
The Pentagon dismissed as "absurd" Iran's accusation that it had faked the video footage and warned that it was prepared to use force if its warships were threatened in international waters.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080109/wl_mideast_afp/usiranmilitarynavyvideo_080109170351
“I am coming to you,” a heavily accented voice says in English. “You will explode after a few minutes.”
(Can it get any more 80's terrorist chasing chuck norris type movie than that?)
What i find amusing is most people here will probably believe the Iranian government before believing the US government.
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The USS Cole was hit by a small boat and did major damage and killed people. It was the the Islamic Republic of Iran Revolutionary Guard Navy which from what I understand is completely seperate from the regular Iranian Navy and doesn't fall under the direct control of the Iranian government. Sounds confusing to me.
But from what I have read these confrintations happen somewhat often but after the two sides identify themselves everyone moves on. It just seems this time they decided to screw with the US ships. I am just glad no shots were fired because all hell would be breaking loose.
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I know especially after all the neo-con and Israeli sentiment about loving Iran to death, and wanting to plant pretty flowers on it's soil.
Not to mention Iran illegally occupying and starting illegal wars on lies, and propping up puppet dictators around the world to destabilize foreign govt's for the purposes of securing resources.. Iran is the worst at that by far.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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I'm not trying to be all Pro-US by that statement, but if i had to choose between believing the US government version of the incident and the Iranian government version. I would believe the US version first.
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