New Terrorist Threat, political or real?

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  • acroyear wrote:
    These kooky leftwing conspiracy theorists don't take terrorism seriously. That's why their party is unfit to rule the country. That's why they won't ever win any national elections... unless they engage in some voter fraud tactics like voting twice, using dead people's names to vote, or even some simple vandalism like slashing tires. If all else fails, whine that the election was stolen..

    If you take terrorism so seriously, how about this- stop supporting Israel unconditionally. That would be a fantastic first step in the "war" on terror.
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  • ladygooddivaladygooddiva Posts: 4,169
    If you take terrorism so seriously, how about this- stop supporting Israel unconditionally. That would be a fantastic first step in the "war" on terror.

    easy easy what a sentence it´s ain´t like that ....i followed the stuff since long
    and i was here in talking groubs with israelis and palestine....
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    acroyear wrote:
    These kooky leftwing conspiracy theorists don't take terrorism seriously. That's why their party is unfit to rule the country. That's why they won't ever win any national elections... unless they engage in some voter fraud tactics like voting twice, using dead people's names to vote, or even some simple vandalism like slashing tires. If all else fails, whine that the election was stolen..

    I am sure rejecting voters at the poll because you can tell who they would vote for (based on the color of their skin) doesn't qualify as voter fraud? I guess having a conservative based Supreme Court end all one by one counts in a close election, then having them rule in your favor doesn't qualify as voter fraud. That's pretty fucking pathetic
  • soon, we'll all just be herded, naked and shivering onto the damn planes, no luggage allowed.
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  • acroyear wrote:
    That's why their party is unfit to rule the country. That's why they won't ever win any national elections...unless they engage in some voter fraud tactics like voting twice, using dead people's names to vote, or even some simple vandalism like slashing tires. If all else fails, whine that the election was stolen..

    now your talking like a REPUBLICAN...

    why don't you search the web for about a goddamn dozen examples of how they stole the last election!
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  • TaftTaft Posts: 454
    NY Times:

    Senator Joseph I. Lieberman seized on the terror arrests in Britain today to attack his Democratic rival, Ned Lamont, saying that Mr. Lamont’s goals for ending the war in Iraq would constitute a “victory” for the extremists who are accused of plotting to blow up airliners traveling between Britain and the United States.

    “If we just pick up like Ned Lamont wants us to do, get out by a date certain, it will be taken as a tremendous victory by the same people who wanted to blow up these planes in this plot hatched in England,” Mr. Lieberman said at a campaign event at lunchtime in Waterbury, Conn. “It will strengthen them and they will strike again.”
  • Taft wrote:
    NY Times:

    Senator Joseph I. Lieberman seized on the terror arrests in Britain today to attack his Democratic rival, Ned Lamont, saying that Mr. Lamont’s goals for ending the war in Iraq would constitute a “victory” for the extremists who are accused of plotting to blow up airliners traveling between Britain and the United States.

    “If we just pick up like Ned Lamont wants us to do, get out by a date certain, it will be taken as a tremendous victory by the same people who wanted to blow up these planes in this plot hatched in England,” Mr. Lieberman said at a campaign event at lunchtime in Waterbury, Conn. “It will strengthen them and they will strike again.”

    Which makes no sense considering this and how many other attacks have occured during the Iraq war?

    Which to me sounds like they are being strengthed as we speak.

    Keep on trucking in Iraq and you will keep breeding the hate....funny how it takes some people forever to realize that.....
  • Taft wrote:
    NY Times:

    Senator Joseph I. Lieberman seized on the terror arrests in Britain today to attack his Democratic rival, Ned Lamont, saying that Mr. Lamont’s goals for ending the war in Iraq would constitute a “victory” for the extremists who are accused of plotting to blow up airliners traveling between Britain and the United States.

    “If we just pick up like Ned Lamont wants us to do, get out by a date certain, it will be taken as a tremendous victory by the same people who wanted to blow up these planes in this plot hatched in England,” Mr. Lieberman said at a campaign event at lunchtime in Waterbury, Conn. “It will strengthen them and they will strike again.”

    Uhhhh huh. Grasping at straws much, Joe?
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  • Uhhhh huh. Grasping at straws much, Joe?


    Yep I cannot believe he said something this absurd.....
  • No offence but trying to smuggle nitroglycerine through an airport in a sealed container would make the most relaxed man sweat bullets...to carry that would require some serious guts........

    you mean like the same guts it takes to strap bombs to your body in order to kill innocents and be a martyr?

    no offense
  • you mean like the same guts it takes to strap bombs to your body in order to kill innocents and be a martyr?

    no offense

    Pretty much...my point being that it is such a highly volatile substance you wouldn't be able to make it to your "target" of choice before it blew.....it would take a highly graceful fellow or madame to do....more or less carry it in a carry on bag where it would bang around....

    None taken...:)
  • Jammin909Jammin909 Posts: 888
    oversensationalism

    I follow a blog by John Marshall and I like one of the points he made:
    *"Also a pretty stark reminder that President Bush's War on Terror, the way he's chosen to fight it, is at best irrelevant to combatting this sort of danger. These are homegrown Brits apparently trying to blow up planes over the Atlantic. Good thing we've got a 150,000 or so troops in Iraq to take the fight to them."
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  • rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    What sickens me is that even if the next attack succeeds, you'll still be sitting here saying "I ain't buying it".
  • ladygooddivaladygooddiva Posts: 4,169
    hey just a small notice i just look on the side of our airport and it´s intresting that three flights to amsterdam are canceled but maybe it´s nothing ...who knows...
  • belfast1belfast1 Posts: 788
    some of you dumbass conspiracy theorists would have probably thought pearl harbour was made up just so the US could have a go at the Japs
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  • ladygooddivaladygooddiva Posts: 4,169
    belfast1 wrote:
    some of you dumbass conspiracy theorists would have probably thought pearl harbour was made up just so the US could have a go at the Japs

    what ?come on this has nothing to do what is now ...don´t mix up history...
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    i'm lost as to why some on here think its for political gain to make up bomb threats and terror threats of this magnitude... it's the terror threat hanging over us that is swaying my decision to vote for Blair again... i dont think if we were in Iraq or Afghanistan that we would be a target for these religious retards.... so what political gain do they actually achieve by making people decide NOT to vote for them in the future :confused:


    this was a real threat... to think otherwise is ostrich behaviour



    p.s. nobody commented on my plans for my own Gheehad... i mean death by clarified butter... what a way to go..... :)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • belfast1belfast1 Posts: 788
    what ?come on this has nothing to do what is now ...don´t mix up history...

    but it is about america and world events isnt it?
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  • what ?come on this has nothing to do what is now ...don´t mix up history...

    How convenient for you.
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  • i'm lost as to why some on here think its for political gain to make up bomb threats and terror threats of this magnitude... it's the terror threat hanging over us that is swaying my decision to vote for Blair again... i dont think if we were in Iraq or Afghanistan that we would be a target for these religious retards.... so what political gain do they actually achieve by making people decide NOT to vote for them in the future :confused:

    Because this exact kind of shit HAS worked for Bush in the past. They thrive on this. As for Blair, he's a lame duck trying to hold on as long as possible- successfully thwarting a terrorist plot, in theory, should make him look good. Which he needs since there's a new reason to call for his head about every other week. For him, it maybe delays the inevitable- but for Bush and co it rounds up the sheep, ready to be guided into the next war or the next round of kissing their liberties goodbye.
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  • ladygooddivaladygooddiva Posts: 4,169
    belfast1 wrote:
    but it is about america and world events isnt it?

    yes but the whole world is not only america
  • ladygooddivaladygooddiva Posts: 4,169
    How convenient for you.


    and why?
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    Because this exact kind of shit HAS worked for Bush in the past. They thrive on this. As for Blair, he's a lame duck trying to hold on as long as possible- successfully thwarting a terrorist plot, in theory, should make him look good. Which he needs since there's a new reason to call for his head about every other week. For him, it maybe delays the inevitable- but for Bush and co it rounds up the sheep, ready to be guided into the next war or the next round of kissing their liberties goodbye.


    in theory it should make him look good... but in reality the media is beginning to question whether we would have been a target had we not been a lapdog in this war of terror...


    *this part not aimed at SoonForgotten. just me ranting :) *
    i dont know, but it makes me just want to get the fuck out of those countries and leave them to rot... i couldnt give a fuck about them anymore... let them blow each other up...

    and people going on about giving up "freedoms"... i mean.. if the government wants to track my passport, watch me on CCTV.. listen to my phone.... big fucking deal.. all they;ll see is that i do fuck all wrong, i talk a lot of shit and i go a crappy holiday to Spain every year.... if people arent breaking the law then whats the big deal about it all.... fucking freedoms... we've never been totally free since the days of cavemen for fucks sake...
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • belfast1belfast1 Posts: 788
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  • and why?

    You want to casually pass off a perfect example of why governments cannot be trusted when it comes to such events- there can always be an underlying motivation for things not being what they seem. With Bush and Blair these are so transparent it hurts, but many people just decide to look the other way when it comes to that. Saying Pearl Harbour was different falls into that category of naive thinking.
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  • belfast1 wrote:
    some of you dumbass conspiracy theorists would have probably thought pearl harbour was made up just so the US could have a go at the Japs


    Wow, there's just so much wrong with in this so short sentence.

    PEarl Harbour could have been avoided. THe US insulted, repeatedly, the Japanese ambassador, and broke off all diplomatic ties. Yes, Pearl Harbour happened, but yes, half the administration wanted it to happen, wanted it to silence the isolationist movement and move America into war. There's more to it, but you really need to look things up for yourself.

    Please research your history before spouting shit, sir.
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  • ladygooddivaladygooddiva Posts: 4,169
    You want to casually pass off a perfect example of why governments cannot be trusted when it comes to such events- there can always be an underlying motivation for things not being what they seem. With Bush and Blair these are so transparent it hurts, but many people just decide to look the other way when it comes to that. Saying Pearl Harbour was different falls into that category of naive thinking.


    in my view we for now have nothing to do with it specially not us europeans ...as for myself i´ve my own countrys sh...history that i won´t forget...
    and i don´t trust the american goverment specially not this one ...if we had our old goverment thinks might be somehow diffrent but now we are hanging on US... asses (goverment)...so i wouldn´t wonder if one day the terror comes here ...
  • in theory it should make him look good... but in reality the media is beginning to question whether we would have been a target had we not been a lapdog in this war of terror...


    *this part not aimed at SoonForgotten. just me ranting :) *
    i dont know, but it makes me just want to get the fuck out of those countries and leave them to rot... i couldnt give a fuck about them anymore... let them blow each other up...

    and people going on about giving up "freedoms"... i mean.. if the government wants to track my passport, watch me on CCTV.. listen to my phone.... big fucking deal.. all they;ll see is that i do fuck all wrong, i talk a lot of shit and i go a crappy holiday to Spain every year.... if people arent breaking the law then whats the big deal about it all.... fucking freedoms... we've never been totally free since the days of cavemen for fucks sake...

    I totally agree that we should stay out of their shit. But that won't happen because that would include Israel and all the oil.

    As for the freedoms issue, the thing is that it can and will snowball. You say that all the government will see is that you're not doing anything wrong. That's fine until they change the definition of what is wrong. This you're seeing right before your very eyes with the different laws that have been created under the guise of combatting terror. I think generally, people do not want to live in a police state and want the freedom to live their lives freely- that's where the conflict lies.
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  • Jammin909Jammin909 Posts: 888
    The Headlines should be reading "FINALLY! GOVERNMENT DOES THEIR JOB: UNFOILS POTENTIAL ATTACK!"

    There is no need to use the phrases like "catastrophic loss of life" and there is no need for the media to be showing pictures of officers/military guard at LAX walking around with automatic weapons.

    I am glad they prevented this and I believe the threat was real but this is the next excuse for tightening the grip. "Remember 9/11, dont forget about the attack using more planes from the UK to US"- now do what I tell you and dont think twice, this is what needs to be done!
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