New Terrorist Threat, political or real?

TaftTaft Posts: 454
edited August 2006 in A Moving Train
With the November elections around the corner, I have heard a lot of people say in jest that its just a matter of time until the terror threat level is raised so that the Bush/Blair propaganda machine can remind people why the world is the way it is now (Iraq, Patriot Act, Oil prices etc..).

And here we are in the mists of another "thwarted" attack. In my opinion, its so easy to declare victory over an invisible enemy and I am not buying it.


The phraseology that Chertoff and others are throwing around is wild:

"Unprecedented loss of life"

"not on the planes yet, but..."

The plot was "intended to be mass murder on an unimaginable scale,"

Passengers "were not yet sitting on an airplane," but were very close to traveling, a senior U.S. counterterrorism official told The Associated Press

"can't assume the threat is over..."

plotters planned loss of life on "an unprecedented scale."

The plan was reminiscent of a plot by 9/11 coordinator Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, who in 1999 had envisioned detonating bombs on 11 airlines possibly traveling over the Pacific Ocean.

The plot was "as sophisticated as any we have seen in recent years as far as terrorism is concerned," Chertoff said


So is this the real thing or another spin of the propaganda machine? Or both?
Post edited by Unknown User on
«13456

Comments

  • Spin Spin, Spin The Black Circle!!!
    The world's greatest empires progress through this sequence:From bondage to spiritual faith; spiritual faith to great courage; courage to liberty;liberty to abundance;abundance to selfishness; selfishness to complacency;complacency to apathy;apathy to dependence;dependency back again into bondage
  • :rolleyes:


    I've never seen a more conspiracy theory, paranoid group in all my life. Is that all some of you do is sit around and dream this shit up? Every event that happens in life is a grand conspiracy and it's never what it seems. Are some of you that incredibly paranoid? I know it's useless to debate about this, but I just get sick of it.
    I know, I know, ww2 was one grand conspiracy by the U.S. govt. for a new world order. That went real well ddin't it?
  • all i know is this...whatever happens in the future...it will be a conspiracy.
  • "I conspire to inquire, that the aim of man is to perspire, then expire."

    Look, im a real fuckin' shakespeare me.

    Why is "conspiracy nut" the only thing you people ever throw? Do you either a) follow blindly everything your Government says, or b) don't?

    Do you stil believe Iraq had WMDs?
    The world's greatest empires progress through this sequence:From bondage to spiritual faith; spiritual faith to great courage; courage to liberty;liberty to abundance;abundance to selfishness; selfishness to complacency;complacency to apathy;apathy to dependence;dependency back again into bondage
  • "


    Why is "conspiracy nut" the only thing you people ever throw? ?

    Because it's the only polite thing i can call you without getting banned!
  • "Do you stil believe Iraq had WMDs"

    there is no such thing as iraq..it is a fictional place made up by karl rove. the war is all a fake so that we can send our troops off to train for the upcoming invasion of canada.
  • Because it's the only polite thing i can call you without getting banned!

    Hence, you cover your lack of ability to hold a reasoned, supported debate, so you resort to insults.

    Under the word nullified, in the dictionary, it says, see binauralsounds...
    The world's greatest empires progress through this sequence:From bondage to spiritual faith; spiritual faith to great courage; courage to liberty;liberty to abundance;abundance to selfishness; selfishness to complacency;complacency to apathy;apathy to dependence;dependency back again into bondage
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    political
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • "Do you stil believe Iraq had WMDs"

    there is no such thing as iraq..it is a fictional place made up by karl rove. the war is all a fake so that we can send our troops off to train for the upcoming invasion of canada.


    Ladies and Gentleman, we have a believer !!

    Don't worry, the worlds largest military machine had only had 3 years to find any....
    The world's greatest empires progress through this sequence:From bondage to spiritual faith; spiritual faith to great courage; courage to liberty;liberty to abundance;abundance to selfishness; selfishness to complacency;complacency to apathy;apathy to dependence;dependency back again into bondage
  • Hence, you cover your lack of ability to hold a reasoned, supported debate, so you resort to insults.

    i thought conspiracy nut was acceptable nomenclature...and you can't really debate a conspiracy nut.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    :rolleyes:


    I've never seen a more conspiracy theory, paranoid group in all my life. Is that all some of you do is sit around and dream this shit up? Every event that happens in life is a grand conspiracy and it's never what it seems. Are some of you that incredibly paranoid? I know it's useless to debate about this, but I just get sick of it.
    I know, I know, ww2 was one grand conspiracy by the U.S. govt. for a new world order. That went real well ddin't it?

    no, your style of thinking is that of Pavlov's dog... drooling as soon as the bell rings... well trained, in line, ready for your orders... while others such as myself realize the bullshit, read through the lines, and question anything these fuckers tell us

    dont you remember the 2004 election with those damn alerts going up... havent seen that since the election until now have you?

    now, i am not saying it is impossible for a couple of crazies to plan this or even pull it off, and i would certainly rather be safe then sorry...BUT, the bush/blair administrations havent exactly been the most truthfull (to say the least) and the public (or some of us) have to question anything they say because they have "cried wolf" far too many times in an effort to scare the general public
  • TaftTaft Posts: 454
    :rolleyes:


    I've never seen a more conspiracy theory, paranoid group in all my life. Is that all some of you do is sit around and dream this shit up? Every event that happens in life is a grand conspiracy and it's never what it seems. Are some of you that incredibly paranoid? I know it's useless to debate about this, but I just get sick of it.
    I know, I know, ww2 was one grand conspiracy by the U.S. govt. for a new world order. That went real well ddin't it?

    Its not a "conspiracy theory", its a matter of embellishment, and spin.

    Look at the "plot" they "thwarted" in July, involving the NYC/NJ transit system. It turned out these were a bunch of kids who had never met (and had never been to the US, and didn't have explosives etc...), discussing a plot to bomb the US through an internet chat room. Was shutting down that chat room worth a world wide press conference?

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,202518,00.html
  • yet ANOTHER thwarted plot involving airplanes. :rolleyes: on 9/11 everyone was caught off guard. today, the u.s./british are like spiderman catching terrorists just like flies. i also think it's a little convenient that they save the day in the final stagesof a plot, just in the knick of time(again like spiderman). 21 terrorists trying to blow up planes from the busiest airport in the world?? either the terrorists are really DUMB or we are.
    Another habit says it's in love with you
    Another habit says its long overdue
    Another habit like an unwanted friend
    I'm so happy with my righteous self
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    i thought conspiracy nut was acceptable nomenclature...and you can't really debate a conspiracy nut.

    asian-american please ;)
  • ladygooddivaladygooddiva Posts: 4,169
    sorry but you´re wrong it´s real and it´s not only now bec. the whole secret services follow a hint since month ...ok there are aelections in nov. but blair isn´t that idiot to juse such fear and in this ways ...nono i think it´s real ....
  • Wheres the conspiracy theory?

    These 2 Governments have been spouting this shit since 911, and for what?

    How many convictions?

    Where is the evidence, is all we ask. Let justice, let a jury of their peers deal with them, and lets presume innocence before guilt, hey? Or is that not patriotic enough for you?

    Or should we brand all Muslims as deadly terrorists? And say fuck you to the law, to a right to trial..oh sorry, your Idol has already done that, against the Supreme Court's order no less...

    I wonder whose trying to limit whos freedoms here...
    The world's greatest empires progress through this sequence:From bondage to spiritual faith; spiritual faith to great courage; courage to liberty;liberty to abundance;abundance to selfishness; selfishness to complacency;complacency to apathy;apathy to dependence;dependency back again into bondage
  • sorry but you´re wrong it´s real and it´s not only now bec. the whole secret services follow a hint since month ...ok there are aelections in nov. but blair isn´t that idiot to juse such fear and in this ways ...nono i think it´s real ....


    What did the secret services say about 911, about weapons of MD in Iraq?

    Are secret service agents the pillar of light and reason in the world now?
    The world's greatest empires progress through this sequence:From bondage to spiritual faith; spiritual faith to great courage; courage to liberty;liberty to abundance;abundance to selfishness; selfishness to complacency;complacency to apathy;apathy to dependence;dependency back again into bondage
  • ladygooddivaladygooddiva Posts: 4,169
    Or should we brand all Muslims as deadly terrorists? And say fuck you to the law, to a right to trial..oh sorry, your Idol has already done that, against the Supreme Court's order no less...

    i never said so and thoose terrorist aren´t muslims for me really bec. mostley muslims are friendly and really nice persons like anybody else ....and every relegion have their black sheeps ....
  • ladygooddivaladygooddiva Posts: 4,169
    What did the secret services say about 911, about weapons of MD in Iraq?
    well it was the american and we germans didn´t follow into the iraq war bec. we saw it was wrong !!!
    Are secret service agents the pillar of light and reason in the world now?
    no but in some ways we have to listen to them i think .it´s a diffrent think if we belive...and by the way this big huge stuff happen now ...come on i belive it´s real ...and even the bnd worked on this search as i read...
  • TaftTaft Posts: 454
    And it begins:

    President Bush will make a statement on the airline terror plot at about 11:50 a.m. ET, the White House says. Watch live coverage on CNN Pipeline.
  • Taft wrote:
    And it begins:

    President Bush will make a statement on the airline terror plot at about 11:50 a.m. ET, the White House says. Watch live coverage on CNN Pipeline.

    How many times do you think he'll use the words "Iran", "Syria", "Extremism," "Justice," or "Values," ?

    If Iran and Syria are used, its WAR BABY HELL YEAH !!!

    Should sexually satisfy the Fucking sheep in the country.
    The world's greatest empires progress through this sequence:From bondage to spiritual faith; spiritual faith to great courage; courage to liberty;liberty to abundance;abundance to selfishness; selfishness to complacency;complacency to apathy;apathy to dependence;dependency back again into bondage
  • therovertherover Posts: 88
    When Bush is out of office next year and this stuff continues to happen, will it still be a conspiracy? I think you give far too much credit to him for making this stuff up, especially when you think he doesn't have the brain power to tie his shoes.
  • NCfanNCfan Posts: 945
    How many times do you think he'll use the words "Iran", "Syria", "Extremism," "Justice," or "Values," ?

    If Iran and Syria are used, its WAR BABY HELL YEAH !!!

    Should sexually satisfy the Fucking sheep in the country.

    Grow up dude..... you are a sheep.
  • therover wrote:
    When Bush is out of office next year and this stuff continues to happen, will it still be a conspiracy? I think you give far too much credit to him for making this stuff up, especially when you think he doesn't have the brain power to tie his shoes.


    Great point.

    In future, when I refer to Bush, I refer to the Cheney/Rummy/Daddy / Carlyle cabal behind him.

    Bush is the figurehead, and four letters is much easier to type than all of that above.
    The world's greatest empires progress through this sequence:From bondage to spiritual faith; spiritual faith to great courage; courage to liberty;liberty to abundance;abundance to selfishness; selfishness to complacency;complacency to apathy;apathy to dependence;dependency back again into bondage
  • NCfan wrote:
    Grow up dude..... you are a sheep.

    Do missiles, guns, bullets, and "shock and awe" turn you on?

    Is war your porno?

    Are men in uniforms your thing?

    If so, SUPPORT THE WAR!!
    The world's greatest empires progress through this sequence:From bondage to spiritual faith; spiritual faith to great courage; courage to liberty;liberty to abundance;abundance to selfishness; selfishness to complacency;complacency to apathy;apathy to dependence;dependency back again into bondage
  • therovertherover Posts: 88
    Great point.

    In future, when I refer to Bush, I refer to the Cheney/Rummy/Daddy / Carlyle cabal behind him.

    Bush is the figurehead, and four letters is much easier to type than all of that above.


    Yes, but they will be gone as well. What then?
  • NCfanNCfan Posts: 945
    Do missiles, guns, bullets, and "shock and awe" turn you on?

    Is war your porno?

    Are men in uniforms your thing?

    If so, SUPPORT THE WAR!!

    LOL, is posting rediculous shit your thing?
  • ladygooddivaladygooddiva Posts: 4,169
    Hillary Clinton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • It seems like all of the disrupted terrorist plots occur only when they are politically convienent. I am not a conspiracy nut, but between the crying wolf, and the predictable timing of all of these, I have become VERY skeptical and cynical about them all.
    My whole life
    was like a picture
    of a sunny day
    “We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
    ― Abraham Lincoln
  • TaftTaft Posts: 454
    What a great line:

    The terror plot arrests in London are a “stark reminder that this nation is at war with Islamic fascists,” President Bush says

    Read: we are faced with our own Hezbollah, so don't bitch about Iraq, Oil prices etc...
Sign In or Register to comment.