McCain:Christianity... "an important part of our qualifications to lead."

darkcrow

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20070930/mccain-faith/

McCain: I'd Prefer Christian President

September 30, 2007 01:17 AM EST |

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WASHINGTON — Sen. John McCain said in an interview published Saturday that he would prefer a Christian president over someone of a different faith, calling it "an important part of our qualifications to lead."

In an interview with Beliefnet, a multi-denominational Web site that covers religion and spirituality, the Republican presidential hopeful was asked if a Muslim candidate could be a good president.

"I just have to say in all candor that since this nation was founded primarily on Christian principles ... personally, I prefer someone who I know who has a solid grounding in my faith," McCain said. "But that doesn't mean that I'm sure that someone who is Muslim would not make a good president."

Later, McCain said, "I would vote for a Muslim if he or she was the candidate best able to lead the country and defend our political values."



Asked about Republican rivals Mitt Romney's Mormon faith, McCain said, "I think that Governor Romney's religion should not, absolutely not, be a disqualifying factor when people consider his candidacy for president of the United States."

The Arizona senator was also asked about the confusion over which Christian denomination he belongs to. "I was raised Episcopalian, I have attended the North Phoenix Baptist Church for many years and I am a Christian," McCain said. He added that he has considered being baptized in the Baptist church, but he does not want to do it during the presidential race because "it might appear as if I was doing something that I otherwise wouldn't do."

DriftingByTheStorm

:rolleyes:

how bout just a good dose of some old fashion honesty, sincerety, and public servitude ... instead of bullshit lies, smarmy smirks, and corporate cock sucking?

I'd take that over religion in a heart beat!

gue_barium

"I just have to say in all candor that since this nation was founded primarily on Christian principles ... personally, I prefer someone who I know who has a solid grounding in my faith, and with a wide stance in the latrine." McCain said.

What the?

810wmb

well, it's true

DriftingByTheStorm

can someone explain the "wide stance in the latrine" piece?
is this a masculinity thing, and what is the basis of the statement?

darkcrow

810wmb wrote:

well, it's true

why? why should we care what a person belives in? surley we should be concerned with their leadership skills, views, manifesto, assertivness, personality etc....

gue_barium

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

can someone explain the "wide stance in the latrine" piece?
is this a masculinity thing, and what is the basis of the statement?

I think it's just the Republican's way of saying that a Party that prays together probably also poops together.

Smellyman2

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

can someone explain the "wide stance in the latrine" piece?
is this a masculinity thing, and what is the basis of the statement?

I guess he is gay too. He wants to touch feet w/ Larry Craig.

Chistian gay guys for Prez! It is the new GOP afterall.

Uncle Leo

McCain:Christianity... "an important part of our qualifications to lead."

Democrats: "We agree."

810wmb

"I just have to say in all candor that since this nation was founded primarily on Christian principles ... personally, I prefer someone who I know who has a solid grounding in my faith, and with a wide stance in the latrine." McCain said.



the nation was founded with Christian principles...it's true

he prefers what he prefers, what's the problem?

macgyver06

yes so vote for a guy who is christian rather than a guy who isnt...because...you know him better...because theres no crazy christians in the world...just likes there no crazy non-christians.


bonehead.

DriftingByTheStorm

810wmb wrote:

"I just have to say in all candor that since this nation was founded primarily on Christian principles ... personally, I prefer someone who I know who has a solid grounding in my faith, and with a wide stance in the latrine." McCain said.



the nation was founded with Christian principles...it's true

he prefers what he prefers, what's the problem?

it's not a problem.
but to me its a bit over simplistic.
if your leading indicator of "good candidate" is just "yay! they're christian" ... i'd have to question the analytic process a little ...

... i just don't see that as the best, most relevant, or even remotely close to the number one indicator of a candidates ability to perform the function of president.

and most politicians who claim to be religious have their head so far up their ass it is laughable.

how bout like i said earlier, just pick someone who speaks real truth, speaks it with candor and takes action in the interest of the people.

810wmb

"and most politicians who claim to be religious have their head so far up their ass it is laughable"

umm, most politicians have their heads up their asses PERIOD!



"how bout like i said earlier, just pick someone who speaks real truth, speaks it with candor and takes action in the interest of the people"

i have no problem with that statement...but find one that does that!

edit - i'm too dumb to use the quote feature

810wmb

on the Christian stuff...

i'd rather follow a "practicing" Christian than anyone else..they would speak the truth, with candor etc....

problem is, when they do, people hammer them.

ok by me, it's the U.S., we get to do that here...

better than being beheaded for speaking yr mind....

Smellyman2

810wmb wrote:

on the Christian stuff...

i'd rather follow a "practicing" Christian than anyone else..they would speak the truth, with candor etc....

problem is, when they do, people hammer them.

ok by me, it's the U.S., we get to do that here...

better than being beheaded for speaking yr mind....

gwb is supposedly a practicing Christian and he started a preemptive war killing hundreds of thousands. Not very christian like

Uncle Leo

810wmb wrote:

on the Christian stuff...

i'd rather follow a "practicing" Christian than anyone else..they would speak the truth, with candor etc....

problem is, when they do, people hammer them.

You mean when they say all non-christians are going to hell and things like that? Yeah, say shit like that and expect media attention.

DriftingByTheStorm

Smellyman wrote:

gwb is supposedly a practicing Christian and he started a preemptive war killing hundreds of thousands. Not very christian like

i did say they have their heads up their ass.

these days, when a politician says they are religious, i get the feeling they are doing so only because

a. they know it gets them brownie points & votes

b. they can use religion as a shield ...

oh well, what i did may be horribly immoral but look look, i'm a christian! see! god will forgive me!

yes.
woo hoo!

jamtemplechains

Smellyman wrote:

gwb is supposedly a practicing Christian and he started a preemptive war killing hundreds of thousands. Not very christian like

yeah..just because someone claims they're extremely faithful in their christian religion doesn't mean they'll act christian-like when given power.
besides, ok so bfd if america was founded on christian principles; does that mean american women should be submissive and obedient to their husbands like the bible demands? i mean, hey, over 200 years ago some guys decided to make an independent nation founded upon principles littered and filled with christian ideals...i guess that means we should close our minds off to any alternative ideas and beliefs forever right?
hmm...
it's sad someone would put religious perspectives above any other considerations for a leader. hitler was a christian...i'd totally vote for him before some asshole athiest! mmm-hmmmm!

catefrances

i would never vote for a politician who just came out and said he/she was christian. tis not my business. i dont need to know. and its irrelevent to their ability to do the job required.

darkcrow

jamtemplechains wrote:

yeah..just because someone claims they're extremely faithful in their christian religion doesn't mean they'll act christian-like when given power.
besides, ok so bfd if america was founded on christian principles; does that mean american women should be submissive and obedient to their husbands like the bible demands? i mean, hey, over 200 years ago some guys decided to make an independent nation founded upon principles littered and filled with christian ideals...i guess that means we should close our minds off to any alternative ideas and beliefs forever right?
hmm...
it's sad someone would put religious perspectives above any other considerations for a leader. hitler was a christian...i'd totally vote for him before some asshole athiest! mmm-hmmmm!

stalin also trained to be a priest... see how that worked out.. oh and how about the hundreds if not thousands of paedophile cases involving priests? not to mention the persecution of homosexuals in highly charged evangelical churches in Africa.

810wmb

y'all are funny as hell!!!!!

somebody tell me how to use this quote thingie where the quotes come up in the blue box..i'd like to discuss this a little more...


going to work, be back later