family sue school over brokeback movie...

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  • NMyTree wrote:
    LOL!:D:D

    If you remember correctly and you go back and check the chronological order of the discussion in this thread. You will recall that you were the one who directed the subject matter in this direction.

    It was your implying that no male could possibily enjoy watching Brokeback Mountain, unless it was a result of "Morbid Fascination".......or if one's girlfriend "forced him" to watch it; otherwise one would have to be a homosexual male to watch this movie and enjoy it/apprreciate it.

    Certainly, that was what you were implying. Which of course is a very narrow-minded attempt to stereotype everyone into a nice, neat little package that fits well into the way you precieve things. Your homophobic perception and your perception, only.

    Certainly no one could possibily think and feel any other way, than the way you think and percieve:rolleyes: ......without being .....gay.

    Hilariously, you're now evoking the "right to be hetrosexual" and acting like your right to be hetrosexual is being compromised. LOL!

    Me thinks you do protest too much.

    So if BBM isn't a hetero mans favorite movie..... or isn't a movie that he wants to see.... or even cares to see... (according to you) then he is a narrow minded homophobe...yeah....nice try... :p I think a tendency towards gay entertainment is not everyone's cup of tea...you're welcome to it. Don't paint my lifestyle your color.... you are doing the same thing that you're accusing me of....are you not then?

    any more witches you'd like to fry while you're holding that gas can and matches?
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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    So if BBM isn't a hetero mans favorite movie..... or isn't a movie that he wants to see.... or even cares to see... (according to you) then he is a narrow minded homophobe...yeah....nice try... :p

    any more witches you'd like to fry while you're holding that gas can and matches?

    Good try, but you're failing miserably in trying to back-peddle and spin your way out of it.

    Anyone who goes back and reads the thread can clearly see that I never claimed such a thing. In fact, you were the first to imply any such things.

    I merely questioned your defensive, paranoid and paniced reaction to Brokeback Mountain. You then took the reigns and ran with it.

    Again, you're very defensive and paranoid about this subject matter and you've been very determined to make sure you confirm your sexuality in this thread.
  • NMyTree wrote:
    Good try, but you're failing miserably in trying to back-peddle and spin your way out of it.

    Anyone who goes back and reads the thread can clearly see that I never claimed such a thing. In fact, you were the first to imply any such things.

    I merely questioned your defensive, paranoid and paniced reaction to Brokeback Mountain. You then took the reigns and ran with it.

    Again, you're very defensive and paranoid about this subject matter and you've been very determined to make sure you confirm your sexuality in this thread.

    Back peddle? When have I changed my stance? where? So what are you saying about my "views" then.

    What would you call me then? The last sentence was another poke...I can smell it coming... I'm posting ahead of your line of thought.
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  • PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    I actually walked out of the theater when the movie Biloxi Blues turned into a gay thing.

    :)

    You'd better double check just to make sure RoD.

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    :p
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  • :)

    You'd better double check just to make sure RoD.

    http://thegayquiz.com/gay?category=gayblog&source=google

    :p

    ....more with the personal attacks? Are you certain you're 33 yrs old?

    I think you're attention starved...and fixated on the prize..

    Honestly I'm flattered.

    guess what I chose for question #5... ;)
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  • PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    ....more with the personal attacks? Are you certain you're 33 yrs old?

    I think you're attention starved...and fixated on the prize..

    Honestly I'm flattered.

    guess what I chose for question #5... ;)

    questioning my age and maturity when all you have is fart comments?

    No clue what you might choose, all I know is the test told me im not gay, except for you, sweet-cheeks. ;)
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  • questioning my age and maturity when all you have is fart comments?

    No clue what you might choose, all I know is the test told me im not gay, except for you, sweet-cheeks. ;)

    Is there an actual purpose to all of this friend? I remember asking you to air your grievances towards me via PM. Is that not acceptable?
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  • sicnevolsicnevol Posts: 180
    Ott wrote:
    At least Romeo and Juliet is based on classic Literature. A modern representation of the play would be enlightening. As far as the post about To Kill a Mockingbird, that's in "the canon" as well. Our English teacher (Senior year, mind you) showed us the Star Wars trilogy as it related to Romoe and Juliet (I think!). She tied it in to the work. And gay love (I respect the choice) and inter-galactic salvation are totally different.

    Ott
    so muder and rape are okay as long as its "classical" ?
    That's two things we've got, Tape and Time.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    gue_barium wrote:
    Did something bad happen in that movie? I never saw it.


    Actually the whole movie. ;)

    What an over-hyped piece of crap.
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  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    nope you're wrong.... my brain is wired hetero.... it's quite simple really. Just like it is for gay people apparently. And I have full rights to not be called homophobic for that. Regardless of how much you like kissing other men and thinking about their penises touching you...:p lol
    I'm wired hetero too. It was still a good movie. I'm also wired non-violent, and I can't even think how many violent movies I've watched and enjoyed. That's part of what makes movies enjoyable, they take us outside of ourselves and our everyday environments. I really can't understand why someone would find a movie about two people in love to be completely unwatchable just because those two people were of the same gender.
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  • PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    Is there an actual purpose to all of this friend? I remember asking you to air your grievances towards me via PM. Is that not acceptable?


    You dont have to respond. :)

    And you called me out to begin with, jumped in on Kabongs Sherlock Holmes fantasy, I only ran with it.

    Wanna go to a movie with me RoD? I hear Brokeback is playing in my local dollar theater. Couple drinks, a good cowboy movie, then who knows? ;)

    I'll PM you my digits, you can call me when you're ready. :)

    Guess you were right, it is hard to get rid of my "essence". :p
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  • You dont have to respond. :)

    And you called me out to begin with, jumped in on Kabongs Sherlock Holmes fantasy, I only ran with it.

    Wanna go to a movie with me RoD? I hear Brokeback is playing in my local dollar theater. Couple drinks, a good cowboy movie, then who knows? ;)

    I'll PM you my digits, you can call me when you're ready. :)

    Guess you were right, it is hard to get rid of my "essence". :p

    You just can't get enough of stirring the shit around here. Countdown til your next banning...
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,749
    that teacher is a blithering fucking idiot.............
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • You dont have to respond. :)

    And you called me out to begin with, jumped in on Kabongs Sherlock Holmes fantasy, I only ran with it.

    Wanna go to a movie with me RoD? I hear Brokeback is playing in my local dollar theater. Couple drinks, a good cowboy movie, then who knows? ;)

    I'll PM you my digits, you can call me when you're ready.

    Guess you were right, it is hard to get rid of my "essence". :p

    Oh I guess you're just not over me yet...ok :D

    Sounds great. We can hook up and get all sweaty at my gym whenever you're feeling up to it.

    I'll pay in advance for your first week as my personal guest I'll try not to break you on the first day though. I can be a bit rough when I get physical.. You'll love the steam sauna afterwards....it can get really hot in there...and the towels are left hanging at the door btw... ;)
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  • moeaholicmoeaholic Posts: 535
    hendrix78 wrote:
    It was, but I meant it to be harsh because I have utter contempt for these people for bringing a lawsuit over this.

    how do you know an attorney didn't approach this family and tell them they could make a pile of money if they sued the school?
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    hippiemom wrote:
    I'm wired hetero too. It was still a good movie. I'm also wired non-violent, and I can't even think how many violent movies I've watched and enjoyed. That's part of what makes movies enjoyable, they take us outside of ourselves and our everyday environments. I really can't understand why someone would find a movie about two people in love to be completely unwatchable just because those two people were of the same gender.


    I honestly believe people only like that movie because they don't want to appear to hate homosexual men.

    Movie sucked. I was surprised just hwo bad it sucked. It had a few decent moments, but overall it just sucked really, really bad.
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  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    moeaholic wrote:
    how do you know an attorney didn't approach this family and tell them they could make a pile of money if they sued the school?
    I was on a bus that was in an accident once, and I was approached by an attorney telling me I could make a pile of money. Since my only injury was a scraped knee and a ruined pair of pantyhose, I told the attorney that suing them for more than $8 would be theft.

    It's quite possible to tell an attorney to go away.
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  • hippiemom wrote:
    I'm wired hetero too. It was still a good movie. I'm also wired non-violent, and I can't even think how many violent movies I've watched and enjoyed. That's part of what makes movies enjoyable, they take us outside of ourselves and our everyday environments. I really can't understand why someone would find a movie about two people in love to be completely unwatchable just because those two people were of the same gender.

    For women it's different watching guys (I believe). Failing that, It could very well be an emotional thing, as it's well known that men are lacking in this regard. However some men are certainly more emotional. I see myself somewhere in the middle on the emotional scale.

    Personally I just couldn't stomach an hour or so of two guys pandering after one another like departed lost souls. It's too corny for me...honestly. It's not an I hate gay thing for me. It's just a bit over the top for me to sit through.

    I sat through 2 seasons (every episode) of Queer as folk to spend time with my girlfriend. We were kinda living together but I sat beside her and watched it....She loved that show.

    Honestly I really don't think there's any way I can explain it except for coming off like a homophobe.
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  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    You dont have to respond. :)

    And you called me out to begin with, jumped in on Kabongs Sherlock Holmes fantasy, I only ran with it.

    Wanna go to a movie with me RoD? I hear Brokeback is playing in my local dollar theater. Couple drinks, a good cowboy movie, then who knows? ;)

    I'll PM you my digits, you can call me when you're ready. :)

    Guess you were right, it is hard to get rid of my "essence". :p
    Oh I guess you're just not over me yet...ok

    Sounds great. We can hook up and get all sweaty at my gym whenever you're feeling up to it.

    I'll pay in advance for your first week as my personal guest I'll try not to break you on the first day though. I can be a bit rough when I get physical.. You'll love the steam sauna afterwards....it can get really hot in there...and the towels are left hanging at the door btw... ;)
    these 2 posts make the whole boston puke thread look like childs play, this may be the funniest thing i have ever read on here. im dying laughing over here, my neighbors must think im weird
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  • PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    these 2 posts make the whole boston puke thread look like childs play, this may be the funniest thing i have ever read on here. im dying laughing over here, my neighbors must think im weird

    :) Glad to entertain. Its what I'm here for.

    But cmon now.

    The boston puke thread is pure gold.

    This is like british comedy.

    Its kinda funny. You're just not sure why. :)
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  • moeaholicmoeaholic Posts: 535
    I honestly believe people only like that movie because they don't want to appear to hate homosexual men.

    Movie sucked. I was surprised just hwo bad it sucked. It had a few decent moments, but overall it just sucked really, really bad.

    i watched this movie with my wife and about halfway through it i turned to her and said "how the fuck can this be nominated for best picture?" i didn't like it at all, not because of two guys fucking but because i thought it was a boring ass movie.
    hippiemom wrote:
    I was on a bus that was in an accident once, and I was approached by an attorney telling me I could make a pile of money. Since my only injury was a scraped knee and a ruined pair of pantyhose, I told the attorney that suing them for more than $8 would be theft.

    It's quite possible to tell an attorney to go away.

    yes, i'm aware you can tell an attorney to go fuck him/herself. but if this family is dirt poor (or trailertrash as some have put it here), then the allure of "easy money" is tough to look past. don't get me wrong, i think the best thing would have been the parents talking to the school board to have some sort of disciplinary action against the teacher and not go crazy and sue for a shitload of money. all i wanted to know was why someone was making an assumption that because the family is suing, it was their idea from the get-go and that seed wasn't planted by an ambulance chaser, you know?
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  • IlovveePJIlovveePJ Posts: 145
    So how was the movie relevant to a 12 yr old??
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  • I honestly believe people only like that movie because they don't want to appear to hate homosexual men.

    Movie sucked. I was surprised just hwo bad it sucked. It had a few decent moments, but overall it just sucked really, really bad.

    I didn't care for it either. I was excited to see given all the hype from people I usually agree with but it was a let down. I will give it props for boldness but it could have been written so much better.
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  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    moeaholic wrote:
    yes, i'm aware you can tell an attorney to go fuck him/herself. but if this family is dirt poor (or trailertrash as some have put it here), then the allure of "easy money" is tough to look past. don't get me wrong, i think the best thing would have been the parents talking to the school board to have some sort of disciplinary action against the teacher and not go crazy and sue for a shitload of money. all i wanted to know was why someone was making an assumption that because the family is suing, it was their idea from the get-go and that seed wasn't planted by an ambulance chaser, you know?
    When I was in the bus accident, I was a single mom getting her heat shut off from time to time. I don't care who plants the seeds, the lawyers can't sue all by themselves. The parents are responsible for what they're doing. I doubt they truly think it's going to require $400,000 in psychological care to heal their poor little girl. If they win, I hope it's mandated in the settlement that all of the money be spent on the daughter's mental health care.

    I can honestly say I wasn't even tempted. I would have been too embarrassed to walk into a courtroom and demand money.
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  • You know what...I'm going to watch it now. I'll post back here on my plot analysis...however might take about a week for me to get around to it though.

    If anyone wants to PM me a reminder, or bump the thread that will suffice.

    you can even quiz me on particulars as a test to make sure...

    I will not light any incense, get a tipsy on red wine and crackers, or wear leather chaps to get in the mood beforehand.

    I may invite and spoon with my neighbor on the couch a little though....he is rather rugged, lean, and boyish looking.

    btw...if it's shit...I'm not holding back, and I will hold you all personally accountable until my memory of it eventually fades... :p
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    anyone think the mother of this child is this woman....:D:D:D
  • lucylespianlucylespian Posts: 2,403
    hippiemom wrote:
    I didn't see it for a long time after it came out, not because of the gayness, but because of the cowboyness. I've never liked cowboy movies.

    Eventually, I heard enough about how good it was that I decided to rent it, and I'm glad I did. It really was a very well-made movie, I enjoyed it a lot. I'd recommend it to anyone who isn't homophobic.

    Why would I ned to be homophobic to not want to watch this movie.

    As to teh emotional damage, I am sure the court case will provide planty of that, and forever this child will need to be damagaed to justify teh payoiut.
    STupid parents, if they really cared for their child's well-being, they would make they point without making their child a spectacle.

    I agree the teacher was pretty foolish to show this movie to kids that age without parental consent.

    I like teh "wrongful imprisonment", geez, the number of times I did not want to be in class. Will be a pretty dumb precedent if that one carries. How stupid is the lawyer who came up with that shit anyhow ??
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,051
    While I am not a huge fan of suing people, I am glad that the parents are suing (I do think there should be penalties for the school system and teacher, but I don't think the parents or child should benefit monetarily). It brings to light the agenda by some to push their views on children. There was no reason to show Brokeback Mountain in school other than to push the homosexual agenda. Should a twelve year-old be thinking about and seeing how two homosexual men have sex? I don't think so. When I and our parents went to school, we learned about history, math, english, and science, not sexual orientation (especially when we were 12). And even still, Brokeback is not appropriate.
  • bgivens33bgivens33 Posts: 290
    That was an IDIOTIC move on the teachers part. Not sure how he/she though this was a good idea. Regardless of ones view on homosexuality it should be left up to the parents to decided when to teach their kid about it.(especially at 12, and outside of a sex-ed class) Now, on the flip side I can only imagine the kid haphazardly told the parents about it, and the parents saw the opportunity for money immediately. I don't necessarily think this is about the child's wellbeing. I could be wrong, but that seems unlikely.
  • lucylespianlucylespian Posts: 2,403
    While I am not a huge fan of suing people, I am glad that the parents are suing (I do think there should be penalties for the school system and teacher, but I don't think the parents or child should benefit monetarily). It brings to light the agenda by some to push their views on children. There was no reason to show Brokeback Mountain in school other than to push the homosexual agenda. Should a twelve year-old be thinking about and seeing how two homosexual men have sex? I don't think so. When I and our parents went to school, we learned about history, math, english, and science, not sexual orientation (especially when we were 12). And even still, Brokeback is not appropriate.

    Why would a female teacher want to push male homosexuality ??

    OK, suppose she is a lesbian, I suppose she might want to open kids to acceptance of that, but this would be a peculiar choice. Maybe she just had it in her bag doing a return maybe, and showed it out of laziness ??

    I would be interested to hear her side of the story.
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