John Kerry Rips The Troops

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  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    ledvedderman wrote:
    Michael Moore knew what everyone was thinking at the time of the WTC attack? That's news to me. Good for him.

    Kerry getting wounded 3 times in 4 months tells me that he was actually over seas fighting, not MIA like others who shall remain nameless...

    if you look back; someone mentioned moore's movie F-9/11. which claims he knew everything.
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    onelongsong wrote:
    100,000 plus came home in body bags and kerry gets 3 flesh wounds in 4 months. think about it.

    He was still there. Where was our president? Who's apparantly tough on terrorism?
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  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    keeponrockin wrote:
    I'm suprised at him saying that.

    i'm a fellow freak myself. we were freaks because our ideals were different.
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    keeponrockin wrote:
    He was still there. Where was our president? Who's apparantly tough on terrorism?

    where were you?
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    onelongsong wrote:
    where were you?

    let's see in 1968 I was -14...

    Most Pearl Jam fans probably weren't around during Vietnam, and what a horrible response when asked about where the President was. Why don't you answer the question instead of asking another one.

    Where was our "war time" President during Vietnam? At least Clinton was man enough to say he was a draft dodger because he didn't believe in the war, not just he didn't want to get killed.
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    onelongsong wrote:
    these men died so we wouldn't have another attack of this magnatude on american soil.

    i cant believe people are still buying this shit


    *newsflash*

    iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 (repeat 10 times)
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    onelongsong wrote:
    100,000 plus came home in body bags and kerry gets 3 flesh wounds in 4 months. think about it.


    and over 1,000,000 million south asians were buried as well. and Kerry (and like minded folks) saw that to be unjust

    think about it. destroying an entire fucking area of the world. for what?
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    my2hands wrote:
    i cant believe people are still buying this shit


    *newsflash*

    iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 (repeat 10 times)


    for a few years, I guess you didnt know who we were fighting over there.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    puremagic wrote:

    It wasn't Kerry's remarks that made the American public treat vietnam vets so god awful, that honor goes to Nixon and Kissinger.

    they were not treated poorly. that was a myth that was fuled by the pro-war pundits. i have talked to many vietnam vets that say that was bullshit and they were treated very well upon returning. and i have seen a film out recently (forget the name) that hilights the anti-war surge within the ranks during the war that also debunks that little myth
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    ledvedderman wrote:
    let's see in 1968 I was -14...

    Most Pearl Jam fans probably weren't around during Vietnam, and what a horrible response when asked about where the President was. Why don't you answer the question instead of asking another one.

    Where was our "war time" President during Vietnam? At least Clinton was man enough to say he was a draft dodger because he didn't believe in the war, not just he didn't want to get killed.

    the president was in the reserves.

    with no personal experience and being an age too young to comprehend what was really going on; i have no respect for your comments.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    jlew24asu wrote:
    for a few years, I guess you didnt know who we were fighting over there.

    ? i do not understand ?
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    my2hands wrote:
    they were not treated poorly. that was a myth that was fuled by the pro-war pundits. i have talked to many vietnam vets that say that was bullshit and they were treated very well upon returning. and i have seen a film out recently (forget the name) that hilights the anti-war surge within the ranks during the war that also debunks that little myth

    take a trip to a VA hospital and talk with some of our people. then get back to me. i can give you a list of names of men that were spat on if it were proper in this forum.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    onelongsong wrote:
    the president was in the reserves.

    with no personal experience and being an age too young to comprehend what was really going on; i have no respect for your comments.


    being a vet (i assume) i would hope you would be more respectful of free speech and the right to dissent and disagree?

    the president was AWOL. and his VP was filing deferments

    which i cant blame them since it was an unjust war that slaughterted many on both sides. for what?
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    my2hands wrote:
    they were not treated poorly. that was a myth that was fuled by the pro-war pundits. i have talked to many vietnam vets that say that was bullshit and they were treated very well upon returning. and i have seen a film out recently (forget the name) that hilights the anti-war surge within the ranks during the war that also debunks that little myth

    PS; there is news footage of soldiers being spat upon as they got off the plane. i was there.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    onelongsong wrote:
    PS; there is news footage of soldiers being spat upon as they got off the plane. i was there.

    ok, lets assume that this did happen. i think we would agree that there are some asshole out there. and i do not believe these mentioned assholes should represent the entire anti-war community
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    my2hands wrote:
    ? i do not understand ?


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaida_in_Iraq
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    jlew24asu wrote:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaida_in_Iraq
    What does that prove? It seems to indicate pretty clearly that Al Qaida was not operating in Iraq until we got there.
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  • sonicreducer
    sonicreducer Posts: 713
    jlew24asu wrote:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaida_in_Iraq

    firstly, on the bottom of the page it says the factual accuracy of the content on this page is disputed.


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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    onelongsong wrote:
    the president was in the reserves.

    with no personal experience and being an age too young to comprehend what was really going on; i have no respect for your comments.

    I guess my years of studying history and political science doesn't make up for my not being there. I'm sure my liberal-tree loving professor was just spinning the events of Vietnam anyway. I guess you're too old to comprehend what my generation is going through now in Iraq, but at least my generation is smart enough to respect your opinion and your right to free speech.
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  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    ledvedderman wrote:
    I guess my years of studying history and political science doesn't make up for my not being there. I'm sure my liberal-tree loving professor was just spinning the events of Vietnam anyway. I guess you're too old to comprehend what my generation is going through now in Iraq, but at least my generation is smart enough to respect your opinion and your right to free speech.

    history? HISTORY????? history says the indians attacked the soldiers at wounded knee. history didn't recognise the buffalo soldiers until recently. history is only as accurate as the person who wrote it.

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