John Kerry Rips The Troops

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  • puremagic
    puremagic Posts: 1,907
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I'm surprised he said that too. I have alot of respect for his service to our country. but he said what he said and its disgraceful. dont try to defend it.


    What's so disgraceful? Every military recruitment office lure kids in with the promise of a "paid" college education. The fact that a lot of your non-college bound kids end up volunteering for military service is no surprise. What Kerry said is not disgraceful it's a fact. If the educational avenue was within their reach they would not pursue the military avenue or at least have an option to their future choice.

    Tell me something, if what Kerry said is so disgraceful, why in the hell do we have our National Guard over there? If it's so disgraceful, why in the hell our we pulling our men and women out of college to go over there? Why are we pulling our men and women from their families and children to go over there. Why are we pulling our men and women from stable jobs to go over there?

    And why, for godsake, we enforcing extended stay for these men and women?
    SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    onelongsong wrote:
    because of a brain aneurysm; i have a slew of doctors. all but one are blacks that came from poverty. the other is a "former ussr" immigrant. they took advantage of affirmative action; (which whites don't have); and pulled themselves out of poverty.

    that says it all.

    peace.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    puremagic wrote:
    What's so disgraceful? Every military recruitment office lure kids in with the promise of a "paid" college education. The fact that a lot of your non-college bound kids end up volunteering for military service is no surprise. What Kerry said is not disgraceful it's a fact. If the educational avenue was within their reach they would not pursue the military avenue or at least have an option to their future choice.

    Tell me something, if what Kerry said is so disgraceful, why in the hell do we have our National Guard over there? If it's so disgraceful, why in the hell our we pulling our men and women out of college to go over there? Why are we pulling our men and women from their families and children to go over there. Why are we pulling our men and women from stable jobs to go over there?

    And why, for godsake, we enforcing extended stay for these men and women?


    your just as disgraceful as his comments. well done
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    jlew24asu wrote:
    your just as disgraceful as his comments. well done
    No, I'll tell you what's disgraceful ... 3,055 dead coalition soldiers. 44,779 wounded American soldiers. Hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis. All in a war that didn't have to happen, and with no end in sight.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    jlew24asu wrote:
    your just as disgraceful as his comments. well done

    What is so disgraceful? I'm just curious? As far as I am concerned, if you are brave enough to actually go fight in a war, if you are lucky enough to come home from that war you should be allowed to say whatever the hell you want.

    I just wonder how many of these people who call Kerry a traitor support the President and Vice President and their "military" service...
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  • robbie
    robbie Posts: 883
    what a stupid thing for him to say a week before the elections. while i agree that the recruiters prey on the poor, and that the VAST majority of the people we have fighting over there come from very low income families, the way he said it is rediculous. he just called our troops stupid and lazy. nice work kerry! do you really need attention so bad that feel the need to blow elections for democrats every chance you get? please just go away and stop making it look like everyone opposed to this war thinks the troops fighting in it are bigger losers than you. nobody is a bigger loser than you, thanks for handing 2004 to george bush, and thanks for giving the GOP all the ammo they need a week before reasonable people had the chance to take the House and Senate. what an asshole. and i voted for this turd.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    robbie wrote:
    what a stupid thing for him to say a week before the elections. while i agree that the recruiters prey on the poor, and that the VAST majority of the people we have fighting over there come from very low income families, the way he said it is rediculous. he just called our troops stupid and lazy. nice work kerry! do you really need attention so bad that feel the need to blow elections for democrats every chance you get? please just go away and stop making it look like everyone opposed to this war thinks the troops fighting in it are bigger losers than you. nobody is a bigger loser than you, thanks for handing 2004 to george bush, and thanks for giving the GOP all the ammo they need a week before America had the chance to take the House and Senate. what an asshole. and i voted for this turd.


    holy moses smell the roses. I actually agree with robbie the great
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    robbie wrote:
    what a stupid thing for him to say a week before the elections. while i agree that the recruiters prey on the poor, and that the VAST majority of the people we have fighting over there come from very low income families, the way he said it is rediculous. he just called our troops stupid and lazy. nice work kerry! do you really need attention so bad that feel the need to blow elections for democrats every chance you get? please just go away and stop making it look like everyone opposed to this war thinks the troops fighting in it are bigger losers than you. nobody is a bigger loser than you, thanks for handing 2004 to george bush, and thanks for giving the GOP all the ammo they need a week before reasonable people had the chance to take the House and Senate. what an asshole. and i voted for this turd.

    but I have to agree with you...if the democrates just kept their mouths shut sometimes..we'd be better off. Oh well.
    Oh the turd was way better than what we got.
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  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Agree with the war or not, chances are if you're not a college graduate, you are more likely to have joined the military. Sure his comment was offensive, but the truth hurts sometimes.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    ledvedderman wrote:
    What is so disgraceful? I'm just curious? As far as I am concerned, if you are brave enough to actually go fight in a war, if you are lucky enough to come home from that war you should be allowed to say whatever the hell you want.

    I just wonder how many of these people who call Kerry a traitor support the President and Vice President and their "military" service...


    and I quote " study hard, do your homework, make an effort to be smart, you can do well. if you dont, you will get stuck in Iraq.

    so mr kerry, all soliders who go and fight are uneducated dumbasses. well said.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    hippiemom wrote:
    No, I'll tell you what's disgraceful ... 3,055 dead coalition soldiers. 44,779 wounded American soldiers. Hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis. All in a war that didn't have to happen, and with no end in sight.


    great. how bout we stay on topic. im sure you can post till here till your fingers hurt about what you find disgraceful.
  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    jlew24asu wrote:
    and I quote " study hard, do your homework, make an effort to be smart, you can do well. if you dont, you will get stuck in Iraq.

    so mr kerry, all soliders who go and fight are uneducated dumbasses. well said.
    Who ever said that not going to school makes you a dumbass?
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Could he had worded what he said better? Without a doubt. Was Senator calling the soldiers of our country dumbasses? No.

    If you really think a man who: his party is trying to win the Congress next week, has many voters in his state who are military/former military, and wants to run for President again would really say and believe what you claim he is saying, than you don't have a clue how it works...
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  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    Yawn....I think we were all aware that John Kerry is an idiot before this comment. Get over it.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    ledvedderman wrote:
    Could he had worded what he said better? Without a doubt. Was Senator calling the soldiers of our country dumbasses? No.

    If you really think a man who: his party is trying to win the Congress next week, has many voters in his state who are military/former military, and wants to run for President again would really say and believe what you claim he is saying, than you don't have a clue how it works...


    its ok for democrats to play the political game but not republicans.
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    callen wrote:
    point...your grandfather knew how to become successful...he knew what it took...and he more than likely had a stable family when he grew up....not what many minorities in the US face..sooo...the reason for this post...they turn to the military...get it??

    do you read what you're writing? my grandfather was orphaned in WWI. he was seperated from his family at the start of WWII to work in a mine in poland. look how many europeans AND americans lost parents in WWII. i guess you were born after that era. oh, wait; we had the korean and vietnam wars that took a lot of parents too.
  • aNiMaL
    aNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    Yeah, I don't think what he said is all that bad or wrong at all. I do think this is a spin from the GOP side in the face of losing big time in the up coming elections.....they have been just foaming at the mouth at something to try and attack the Dems with.....and this is all they came up with.

    Check out Kerry's response to the uproar from the GOP:

    Kerry, who is not up for re-election this year, fired back at the White House and GOP, saying he was not disparaging U.S. soldiers.

    "If anyone thinks a veteran would criticize the more than 140,000 heroes serving in Iraq and not the president who got us stuck there, they're crazy," he said. "No Democrat will be bullied by an administration that has a cut-and-run policy in Afghanistan and a stand-still-and-lose strategy in Iraq."

    He then said: "You know, education -- if you make the most of it, you study hard and you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well.

    "If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."

    But Kerry refused to relent, calling the criticism part of the "classic GOP playbook."

    "I'm not going to be lectured by a stuffed-suit White House mouthpiece standing behind a podium, or doughy Rush Limbaugh, who no doubt today will take a break from belittling Michael J. Fox's Parkinson's disease to start lying about me just as they have lied about Iraq."

    He further expressed disgust with "Republican hacks, who have never worn the uniform of our country."

    Kerry added that President Bush and Vice President Cheney "owe our troops an apology" because they "misled America into war."

    Bush and Cheney "have given us a Katrina foreign policy that has betrayed our ideals, killed and maimed our soldiers, and widened the terrorist threat instead of defeating it," the senator said.
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    jlew24asu wrote:
    its ok for democrats to play the political game but not republicans.

    Who was playing the "political game"
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  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    callen wrote:
    that says it all.

    peace.

    it speaks volumes. if a person born dirt poor can work his way up to ceo of a corporation; lose everything because of a surgery (1986) and return to own one of the biggest food corporations in the country and retire at age 40; (ok; not retire but stop working); it should be able to be done by anyone.
  • aNiMaL
    aNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    jlew24asu wrote:
    and I quote " study hard, do your homework, make an effort to be smart, you can do well. if you dont, you will get stuck in Iraq.

    so mr kerry, all soliders who go and fight are uneducated dumbasses. well said.
    The truth hurts sometimes.....but yes, most people with a college degree do not serve in the military.

    If you surveyed all the folks in all branches in the military, I suspect it would prove that point.

    Are there exceptions to the rule; of course. Does that mean the rule is not valid; nope.

    You could say the same thing about many, many, many jobs. Classify them between those with more formal education and those without. Don't try to make that sound like a bad thing to suite the needs of the GOP.

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