John Kerry Rips The Troops

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  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Michael Moore knew what everyone was thinking at the time of the WTC attack? That's news to me. Good for him.

    Kerry getting wounded 3 times in 4 months tells me that he was actually over seas fighting, not MIA like others who shall remain nameless...

    if you look back; someone mentioned moore's movie F-9/11. which claims he knew everything.
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    100,000 plus came home in body bags and kerry gets 3 flesh wounds in 4 months. think about it.

    He was still there. Where was our president? Who's apparantly tough on terrorism?
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    I'm suprised at him saying that.

    i'm a fellow freak myself. we were freaks because our ideals were different.
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    He was still there. Where was our president? Who's apparantly tough on terrorism?

    where were you?
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    where were you?

    let's see in 1968 I was -14...

    Most Pearl Jam fans probably weren't around during Vietnam, and what a horrible response when asked about where the President was. Why don't you answer the question instead of asking another one.

    Where was our "war time" President during Vietnam? At least Clinton was man enough to say he was a draft dodger because he didn't believe in the war, not just he didn't want to get killed.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    these men died so we wouldn't have another attack of this magnatude on american soil.

    i cant believe people are still buying this shit


    *newsflash*

    iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 (repeat 10 times)
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    100,000 plus came home in body bags and kerry gets 3 flesh wounds in 4 months. think about it.


    and over 1,000,000 million south asians were buried as well. and Kerry (and like minded folks) saw that to be unjust

    think about it. destroying an entire fucking area of the world. for what?
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    my2hands wrote:
    i cant believe people are still buying this shit


    *newsflash*

    iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 (repeat 10 times)


    for a few years, I guess you didnt know who we were fighting over there.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    puremagic wrote:

    It wasn't Kerry's remarks that made the American public treat vietnam vets so god awful, that honor goes to Nixon and Kissinger.

    they were not treated poorly. that was a myth that was fuled by the pro-war pundits. i have talked to many vietnam vets that say that was bullshit and they were treated very well upon returning. and i have seen a film out recently (forget the name) that hilights the anti-war surge within the ranks during the war that also debunks that little myth
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    let's see in 1968 I was -14...

    Most Pearl Jam fans probably weren't around during Vietnam, and what a horrible response when asked about where the President was. Why don't you answer the question instead of asking another one.

    Where was our "war time" President during Vietnam? At least Clinton was man enough to say he was a draft dodger because he didn't believe in the war, not just he didn't want to get killed.

    the president was in the reserves.

    with no personal experience and being an age too young to comprehend what was really going on; i have no respect for your comments.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    jlew24asu wrote:
    for a few years, I guess you didnt know who we were fighting over there.

    ? i do not understand ?
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    my2hands wrote:
    they were not treated poorly. that was a myth that was fuled by the pro-war pundits. i have talked to many vietnam vets that say that was bullshit and they were treated very well upon returning. and i have seen a film out recently (forget the name) that hilights the anti-war surge within the ranks during the war that also debunks that little myth

    take a trip to a VA hospital and talk with some of our people. then get back to me. i can give you a list of names of men that were spat on if it were proper in this forum.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    the president was in the reserves.

    with no personal experience and being an age too young to comprehend what was really going on; i have no respect for your comments.


    being a vet (i assume) i would hope you would be more respectful of free speech and the right to dissent and disagree?

    the president was AWOL. and his VP was filing deferments

    which i cant blame them since it was an unjust war that slaughterted many on both sides. for what?
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    my2hands wrote:
    they were not treated poorly. that was a myth that was fuled by the pro-war pundits. i have talked to many vietnam vets that say that was bullshit and they were treated very well upon returning. and i have seen a film out recently (forget the name) that hilights the anti-war surge within the ranks during the war that also debunks that little myth

    PS; there is news footage of soldiers being spat upon as they got off the plane. i was there.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    PS; there is news footage of soldiers being spat upon as they got off the plane. i was there.

    ok, lets assume that this did happen. i think we would agree that there are some asshole out there. and i do not believe these mentioned assholes should represent the entire anti-war community
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    jlew24asu wrote:
    What does that prove? It seems to indicate pretty clearly that Al Qaida was not operating in Iraq until we got there.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • jlew24asu wrote:

    firstly, on the bottom of the page it says the factual accuracy of the content on this page is disputed.


    bush used 9/11 as a pretext to invade iraq. he mislead the public.
    you're a real hooker. im gonna slap you in public.
    ~Ron Burgundy
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    the president was in the reserves.

    with no personal experience and being an age too young to comprehend what was really going on; i have no respect for your comments.

    I guess my years of studying history and political science doesn't make up for my not being there. I'm sure my liberal-tree loving professor was just spinning the events of Vietnam anyway. I guess you're too old to comprehend what my generation is going through now in Iraq, but at least my generation is smart enough to respect your opinion and your right to free speech.
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    I guess my years of studying history and political science doesn't make up for my not being there. I'm sure my liberal-tree loving professor was just spinning the events of Vietnam anyway. I guess you're too old to comprehend what my generation is going through now in Iraq, but at least my generation is smart enough to respect your opinion and your right to free speech.

    history? HISTORY????? history says the indians attacked the soldiers at wounded knee. history didn't recognise the buffalo soldiers until recently. history is only as accurate as the person who wrote it.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    firstly, on the bottom of the page it says the factual accuracy of the content on this page is disputed.


    bush used 9/11 as a pretext to invade iraq. he mislead the public.


    its a wiki page.
  • history? HISTORY????? history says the indians attacked the soldiers at wounded knee. history didn't recognise the buffalo soldiers until recently. history is only as accurate as the person who wrote it.

    this reminds me of kabong's sig.

    our version of history will prove we were right.
    you're a real hooker. im gonna slap you in public.
    ~Ron Burgundy
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    I guess my years of studying history and political science doesn't make up for my not being there. I'm sure my liberal-tree loving professor was just spinning the events of Vietnam anyway. I guess you're too old to comprehend what my generation is going through now in Iraq, but at least my generation is smart enough to respect your opinion and your right to free speech.

    i don't think you know what free speech is. ever hear of slander? let's test free speech; call the white house and threaten to kill the president. let me know about free speech when you're out of jail.
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    its a wiki page.


    like hippiemom said, they weren't operating in iraq until we invaded.

    we need to get out of there.
    you're a real hooker. im gonna slap you in public.
    ~Ron Burgundy
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    this reminds me of kabong's sig.

    our version of history will prove we were right.

    funny how every generation says the same thing. paging thru history; the world is flat and the sun revolves around the earth.
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    like hippiemom said, they weren't operating in iraq until we invaded.

    we need to get out of there.

    saddam paid the families of the 9/11 hijackers before we got there. that in itself shows involvement or at least conspiracy.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    I am simple astonsihed that John Kerry's comments would get this much attention. It's not like the man walked around Arlington National Cemetary spitting on graves. Was it a stupid comment, yes but we are talking about John Kerry here. Who the fuck cares what he said, the man isn't even up for re-election.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    i don't think you know what free speech is. ever hear of slander? let's test free speech; call the white house and threaten to kill the president. let me know about free speech when you're out of jail.

    Trust me, I have a great idea of what free speech is. In a perfect world with perfect free speech, we would be able to call the White House like you mentioned, but we can't.
  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    mammasan wrote:
    I am simple astonsihed that John Kerry's comments would get this much attention. It's not like the man walked around Arlington National Cemetary spitting on graves. Was it a stupid comment, yes but we are talking about John Kerry here. Who the fuck cares what he said, the man isn't even up for re-election.
    There goes that liberal media again!
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • NCfanNCfan Posts: 945
    like hippiemom said, they weren't operating in iraq until we invaded.

    we need to get out of there.

    That's hilarious! Why should Al Qaida have a right to be in Iraq and we shouldn't? Why on earth would you want to just give a country to a terrorist organization that plots to destroy your county???? Are you serious?
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