R- Robin Hayes feels crusades would help iRAQ

Collin

MrBrian wrote:

Miller, have you really even read the bible?

But seriously Miller, have you?

robbie

The Koran already spreads the message of peace on earth and good will toward man, so the ideals of christianity are not forign to the people of iraq. what this turdfucker was saying is that everything will be better in iraq once they hear about the birth of the savior. once they accept christianity. please dont pretent to not understand what this scumbag is saying or underestimate the harm his ignorance will cause to our troops over there because of idiots like this in the first place.

CorporateWhore

MrBrian wrote:

Miller, have you really even read the bible?

Have you? Give me a break. What the hell do you know about Christianity?

Collin

CorporateWhore wrote:

Have you? Give me a break. What the hell do you know about Christianity?

Do you think miller's statements are a good example of what a Christian should be, because if so, you two have read a completely different Bible than I have.

bryanfury

robbie wrote:

“Stability in Iraq ultimately depends on spreading the message of Jesus Christ, the message of peace on earth, good will towards men. Everything depends on everyone learning about the birth of the Savior.”


this comment was made by congressman robin hayes to a rotary club. What a beautiful idea...... convert everyone in iraq to christianity, i bet this will go over well. when a united states congressman makes public statements like this, what are the iraqis supposed to think? i think we all remember george bush using the word "crusade" to describe his wars earlier, and now a fellow republican insinuating that everything will be better once all those savages are converted to christians.

wow. and people wonder why we aren;t winning the hearts and minds. statements like these validate the fears of muslims.

CorporateWhore

Collin wrote:

Do you think miller's statements are a good example of what a Christian should be, because if so, you two have read a completely different Bible than I have.

Do you know what a good christian does?

He believes that Jesus Christ was the son of God and all salvation comes through Him.

Do you believe that? If you don't, then maybe you should not start giving advice about what a good christian is.

gue_barium

hippiemom wrote:

Muslims already know about Christ. They just don't agree with Christians about his divinity.

The people of his district should be ashamed of themselves for voting for such an ignorant twat.

Hehee.

I think at worst, it is an irresponsible public statement to make to the followers, those young up and coming missionaries and the like, who may regard this opinion more reverently than ordinary. Especially at the current time, with change in the air, and the violence steady to escalating over there. In Iraq.

MrBrian

CorporateWhore wrote:

Have you? Give me a break. What the hell do you know about Christianity?

Yes I have, That's why I know what a great man Jesus was, he talked about peace and love, so when I see people taking the opposite stance then claim to be christians it makes me wonder what exactly they themselves really know about it....

surferdude

Collin wrote:

Just like Jesus!

There's so much irony in this statement. Have you read the bible? Jesus didn't care about making friends. He had a message and a job to do. He kicked over tables in the synagogue, he said flat out he would divide families. He was not there to make friends, anymore than a lifeguard is at the beach to make friends.

If he was sent to make friends he sure did a piss poor job of it. Got sold out by one of his best friends and crucified. His three best mates deserted him in his hour of need.

Collin

CorporateWhore wrote:

Do you know what a good christian does?

He believes that Jesus Christ was the son of God and all salvation comes through Him.

Do you believe that? If you don't, then maybe you should not start giving advice about what a good christian is.

Nope, I do not believe Jesus Christ was the son of God and I don't believe in God. I did once and I went to Catholic school where Jesus' message was pounded into our heads. Though I cast away my faith, part of that message is still very important in my life and that's "love thy neighbour" even if thy neighbour happens to be a sinner. Now if you are going to tell me this isn't true, fine then I will change my view of what I think a Christian is supposed to be.

Collin

surferdude wrote:

There's so much irony in this statement. Have you read the bible? Jesus didn't care about making friends. He had a message and a job to do. He kicked over tables in the synagogue, he said flat out he would divide families. He was not there to make friends, anymore than a lifeguard is at the beach to make friends.

If he was sent to make friends he sure did a piss poor job of it. Got sold out by one of his best friends and crucified. His three best mates deserted him in his hour of need.

That's two in a row maybe I should change the way I view Christianity, I was under the impression that it was about love and peace and about forgiveness. I thought it was about tolerance and all that, I guess I was wrong.

norm

Collin wrote:

Nope, I do not believe Jesus Christ was the son of God and I don't believe in God. I did once and I went to Catholic school where Jesus' message was pounded into our heads. Though I cast away my faith, part of that message is still very important in my life and that's "love thy neighbour" even if thy neighbour happens to be a sinner. Now if you are going to tell me this isn't true, fine then I will change my view of what I think a Christian is supposed to be.

I like that. I can't wait to read the responses.:)

CorporateWhore

Collin wrote:

Nope, I do not believe Jesus Christ was the son of God and I don't believe in God. I did once and I went to Catholic school where Jesus' message was pounded into our heads. Though I cast away my faith, part of that message is still very important in my life and that's "love thy neighbour" even if thy neighbour happens to be a sinner. Now if you are going to tell me this isn't true, fine then I will change my view of what I think a Christian is supposed to be.

If you don't know where love comes from, how can you love your neighbor?

Collin

CorporateWhore wrote:

If you don't know where love comes from, how can you love your neighbor?

Are you saying only Christians know where love comes from?

surferdude

Collin wrote:

That's two in a row maybe I should change the way I view Christianity, I was under the impression that it was about love and peace and about forgiveness. I thought it was about tolerance and all that, I guess I was wrong.

I can love you, want the best for you and still think you're a jerk and not want to be your friend. I love my buddy's dog, but I don't count the dog as a friend.

Love does not mean you have no backbone and stand for nothing for fear of hurting the other's feelings.

CorporateWhore

Collin wrote:

Are you saying only Christians know where love comes from?

God is love. Many different religious people believe in God.

All love comes from God; therefore, in order to truly love thy neighbor, one must know God.

This is not to say that atheists cannot love, but cannot show love to the level of one who recognizes that God is love. Once you know that God is love, you love others unceasingly and without reservation.

Collin

surferdude wrote:

I can love you, want the best for you and still think you're a jerk and not want to be your friend. I love my buddy's dog, but I don't count the dog as a friend.

Love does not mean you have no backbone and stand for nothing for fear of hurting the other's feelings.

Good point.

Do you also feel that a crusade would help Iraq?

bryanfury

surferdude wrote:

There's so much irony in this statement. Have you read the bible? Jesus didn't care about making friends. He had a message and a job to do. He kicked over tables in the synagogue, he said flat out he would divide families. He was not there to make friends, anymore than a lifeguard is at the beach to make friends.

If he was sent to make friends he sure did a piss poor job of it. Got sold out by one of his best friends and crucified. His three best mates deserted him in his hour of need.

unless, of course, you believe jesus wanted (or needed) to be crucified, and set up the whole thing to become the martyr he wanted (or was supposed) to be.

Collin

CorporateWhore wrote:

God is love. Many different religious people believe in God.
All love comes from God; therefore, in order to truly love thy neighbor, one must know God.

This is not to say that atheists cannot love, but cannot show love to the level of one who recognizes that God is love. Once you know that God is love, you love others unceasingly and without reservation.

Well, if that's your opinion so be it. But just so you know, you're wrong.

MrBrian

CorporateWhore wrote:

God is love. Many different religious people believe in God.

All love comes from God; therefore, in order to truly love thy neighbor, one must know God.

This is not to say that atheists cannot love, but cannot show love to the level of one who recognizes that God is love. Once you know that God is love, you love others unceasingly and without reservation.

love all others? or just a select few? so in order for a christian to be a christian they for example would have to love ummmm hitler? or ummm bin ladin? because I'm sure that if you ask 90% of the so called christians in america what they think of Usama, "love" won't come up. and of course if they can't show this great love, that kinda means that they don't truly know God, meaning that they truly have no love for him.