America makes me sick

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  • The Fox hosts failed to correct the false claim that Obama is Muslim. One caller, referring to Obama, said, “I think a Muslim would be fine in the presidency, better than Hillary. At least you know what the Muslims are up to.” Anchor Gretchen Carlson responded, “We want to be clear, too, that this isn’t all Muslims, of course, we would only be concerned about the kind that want to blow us up.”
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I love America. To say otherwise would be a ridiculous statement. I mean, how can you not love the Grand Canyon, for instance, or the Redwoods, or Pearl Jam, or Mark Twain, or a thousand and one other great things?
    On the other hand, i do hate the American government, and a lot of right leaning, insular and bigoted pigs in places of power and influence - those blind bastards in 90% of the American media, those in charge of some of the big corporations, those in the arms trade e.t.c. I think it's a shame that a country like America has been allowed to be sold down the river by a handful of rich and powerful scumbags, and to be made the most hated country in the world.
    America is too big and varied a place to be summed up easily. I believe that the man on the street in America is generally good, and that most people there are open-minded and inquistive about the wider world. It is currently a divided country and the last elections showed that.
    well said my friend, well said
  • well technically the Boston thing happened in the US... and then you went on to say what a shit country I live in.

    1. i live in scotland... the boston massacre didnt happen there
    2. it was 1770 for fucks sake... i had no say in my countries doings back then
    3. i dont need a 3 as the first 2 are good enough

    Hehe..slow down, hoss. I was just joking around. I don't think you live in a "shit country". I'm just rejecting the ridiculous logic of the original poster.
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Yeah, freedom of speech in america can quite easily get you locked up under the patriot act.
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    jlew24asu wrote:
    this places gives me limitless opportunity. and I dontknow about yours but I still have freedom of speech.

    1. no it doesnt... its not limitless. If you were a black kid from a shitty area then your chances would be less than someone from the Hamptons or somewhere. It might offer YOU limited opportunity but it doesnt offer everyone

    2. if you have freedom of speech then please make a banner right now that calls Bush a murderer and then try and get on a plane carrying the koran and wear a t-shirt that has Bush as the FBI's most wanted

    Scotland has a greater Freedom of Speech than America right now... and thats undebateable
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    Hehe..slow down, hoss. I was just joking around. I don't think you live in a "shit country". I'm just rejecting the ridiculous logic of the original poster.

    and i dont think you live in a shit country, and the original posters thread could have been worded better... i agree :)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450

    2. if you have freedom of speech then please make a banner right now that calls Bush a murderer and then try and get on a plane carrying the koran and wear a t-shirt that has Bush as the FBI's most wanted

    Scotland has a greater Freedom of Speech than America right now... and thats undebateable

    Thats called going overboard. Can i go to england and wear a shirt that says

    " Lets blow up more buses!"...i dont think so.

    If i knew anything about Scotland id think of a funny rebutal. But because your country is so insignificant i really cant.
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Like I said, america at it's core is a great fucking country, but it's so far from that core now, it is quite disgusting.
  • if the thread would have been started differently it would not have over 35 posts in about 45mins.


    Either way I think listening to GRIEVANCE might help.

    Pull the innocent from a crowd
    Raise the sticks then bring em down

    Break the innocent when they're proud...
    Raise the stakes,... then bring em down...
    If they fail to obey

    and i dont think you live in a shit country, and the original posters thread could have been worded better... i agree :)
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    miller8966 wrote:
    Thats called going overboard. Can i go to england and wear a shirt that says.. " Lets blow up more buses!"...i dont think so.

    did i say you could? It was Jlew who said that he had Freedom of Speech... i'm pointing out he doesnt have pure Freedom of Speech

    miller8966 wrote:
    If i knew anything about Scotland id think of a funny rebutal. But because your country is so insignificant i really cant.

    you dont know anything about scotland due to the fact you're a thick cunt... as for a funny rebuttal... ever said anything funny? i doubt it! at least I try and learn more about the world we live in.. you only learn about Disneyworld.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    jlew24asu wrote:
    this places gives me limitless opportunity.
    1. no it doesnt... its not limitless.
    But they have the perception of having limitless opportunity, and that ought to account for something! ;)
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

    http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta

    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • RushlimboRushlimbo Posts: 832
    miller8966 wrote:
    If i knew anything about Scotland id think of a funny rebutal. But because your country is so insignificant i really cant.

    If you knew anything about American and world history you would realize what an ignorant statement this is.
    War is Peace
    Freedom is Slavery
    Ignorance is Strength
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    1. no it doesnt... its not limitless. If you were a black kid from a shitty area then your chances would be less than someone from the Hamptons or somewhere. It might offer YOU limited opportunity but it doesnt offer everyone
    o really? the chief operating officer at my company makes $660,000 a year. he is a black man who grew up in the ghetto in Queens, NY.
    2. if you have freedom of speech then please make a banner right now that calls Bush a murderer
    I see it all the time in Chicago. people march here weekly this past summer with a banner that said exactly that.
    and then try and get on a plane carrying the koran
    I sat next to a muslim with the towel on his head and koran in hand on a flight from philidephia to chicago 2 weeks ago. next.
    and wear a t-shirt that has Bush as the FBI's most wanted
    so you think you would get arrested for wearing this? i dont think so.
    Scotland has a greater Freedom of Speech than America right now... and thats undebateable
    well since you say so. personally, I think your full of shit.
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    angelica wrote:
    But they have the perception of having limitless opportunity, and that ought to account for something! ;)

    nope :p
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    miller8966 wrote:
    If i knew anything about Scotland id think of a funny rebutal. But because your country is so insignificant i really cant.

    No country is insignificant. Although most countries don't suffer from a collective neuroses and a shamless ignorance and arrogance, which forces them to impose themselves on others and adopt bully tactics when they don't get their own way.
    America is still a relatively young country and still has a lot of growing up to do.
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    angelica wrote:
    But they have the perception of having limitless opportunity, and that ought to account for something! ;)

    every country has barriers
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    jlew24asu wrote:
    o really? the chief operating officer at my company makes $660,000 a year. he is a black man who grew up in the ghetto in Queens, NY.

    get him to run for president then... he wont get fucking far!
    jlew24asu wrote:
    so you think you would get arrested for wearing this? i dont think so.

    try it then


    well since you say so. personally, I think your full of shit.

    personally i couldnt give a fuck what you think... but obviously the truth hurts.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • RushlimboRushlimbo Posts: 832
    jlew24asu wrote:
    so you think you would get arrested for wearing this? i dont think so.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/australiausairlinebushoffbeat

    Aussies rule !!!!!
    War is Peace
    Freedom is Slavery
    Ignorance is Strength
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    miller8966 wrote:
    every country has barriers

    i agree
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    miller8966 wrote:
    every country has barriers
    And I agree.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

    http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta

    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    Qantas is an Australian airline and can deny any passenger they want.
  • hmm
    this thread is turning into a distraction, focusing on dumb remarks (some are making just because they have time and feel the need to agitate others), instead of focusing on FOX. I think there is much to be said about a network that airs a political show, yet does not bother with accuracy-->
    The Fox hosts failed to correct the false claim that Obama is Muslim. One caller, referring to Obama, said, “I think a Muslim would be fine in the presidency, better than Hillary. At least you know what the Muslims are up to.” Anchor Gretchen Carlson responded, “We want to be clear, too, that this isn’t all Muslims, of course, we would only be concerned about the kind that want to blow us up.”
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    get him to run for president then... he wont get fucking far!
    how bout obama. he is a black man running for president

    personally i couldnt give a fuck what you think... but obviously the truth hurts.
    American is no less free then your tiny country
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    jlew24asu wrote:
    well since you say so. personally, I think your full of shit.

    i could walk into my town centre right now and burn a flag... you try it.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    I see America as being in the stage of development the equivalent of which is the schoolyard bully who is suffering from a kind of insecurity about himself.
    I think that Bush et al being in power right now and dragging America into yet another fight which will prove to be more damaging to itself is actually a good thing, and necessary, in the long run. I think most Americans are beginning to see things for what they are, with the help of these transparent liars and murderers in the White house right now. A lot of people thought that America had aged with it's experience in Vietnam. Not so. The same mistakes are now being repeated for all to see. I think this situation is a lot worse, and that America will be forced, in the near future, to make some radical changes for it's own, and the worlds, survival.
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Byrnzie wrote:
    No country is insignificant. Although most countries don't suffer from a collective neuroses and a shamless ignorance and arrogance, which forces them to impose themselves on others and adopt bully tactics when they don't get their own way.
    America is still a relatively young country and still has a lot of growing up to do.

    And england is an old country; who follow everything a young country tells it to do.
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    jlew24asu wrote:
    how bout obama. he is a black man running for president

    he wont get far

    jlew24asu wrote:
    American is no less free then your tiny country

    its not about the size of it... its how you use it.. ;)


    calling scotland tiny wont bother me.. it is tiny... but for such a tiny nation we've made some telling and historical contributions to society, medicine, engineering, education, construction, architecture.... if you guys dont watch it then all you'll be famous for is confrontation... america's past is a violent one and its continuing on that route
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    i could walk into my town centre right now and burn a flag... you try it.
    Supreme Court rulings have upheld that flag desecration is a form of political speech that should be protected by our Constitution. I'm having a good time ripping you up. keep it coming almighty dorkman :)
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    miller8966 wrote:
    And england is an old country; who follow everything a young country tells it to do.

    True. To our shame. We are in a position to influence Bush et al and make a difference in the world. It's to our shame that we have allowed Blair - practically singlehandedly - to let Britain be dragged along on America's coat-tails.
  • How do you know he grew up in the ghetto?



    Originally Posted by jlew24asu
    o really? the chief operating officer at my company makes $660,000 a year. he is a black man who grew up in the ghetto in Queens, NY.
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