America makes me sick

MrBrian

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farfromglorified

dunkman1974 wrote:

this happened in the US... so we get out of that one

Does that mean we get out of the Iraq situation?

jlew24asu

dunkman1974 wrote:

no shit :rolleyes:

I love Scotland but i can be big enough and have enough common sense to see and say that some things arent being run properly.

whats the point of posting what you just typed? it serves no purpose

about the same purpose as your response

dunkman

jlew24asu wrote:

about the same purpose as your response

my response highlighted that poeple in the UK refer to their country as "shit" and thats because they dont like the way its run... your just typing " i love america"... we fucking know you do... you type it in about every other thread you respond to.

so you obviously think the way your country is being run is wonderful?

jlew24asu

MrBrian wrote:

why? what makes you so proud to be american? i'm really curious.
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America at it's core is one of the greatest countries around, but right now america is sooooo far from that core, I have to say that America makes me sick.

Freedom of speech, equal rights and whatever else, this is what america is suppose to be about. but that's not what it is about at this point in time.

From what I've studied about the fouding fathers, i'm sure modern america would make them feel just as sick.

Because this is a great country with awsome people. this places gives me limitless opportunity. and I dontknow about yours but I still have freedom of speech.

jlew24asu

dunkman1974 wrote:

so you obviously think the way your country is being run is wonderful?

nope I sure dont. I think this country needs a change in leadership. which is why a president can only be president for no longer then 8 years.

MrBrian

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chopitdown

pushmepullme wrote:

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/19/fox-obama-madrassa/

What a fucking rubbish country you all live in.

dont judge a whole country based on the website that is against the radical right wing agenda...of course you'd be pissed b/c they highlight every single bad thing the conservatives do. The UK by no means has it's act together either.

Byrnzie

jlew24asu wrote:

I love America. and I am proud to be an American.

I love America. To say otherwise would be a ridiculous statement. I mean, how can you not love the Grand Canyon, for instance, or the Redwoods, or Pearl Jam, or Mark Twain, or a thousand and one other great things?
On the other hand, i do hate the American government, and a lot of right leaning, insular and bigoted pigs in places of power and influence - those blind bastards in 90% of the American media, those in charge of some of the big corporations, those in the arms trade e.t.c. I think it's a shame that a country like America has been allowed to be sold down the river by a handful of rich and powerful scumbags, and to be made the most hated country in the world.
America is too big and varied a place to be summed up easily. I believe that the man on the street in America is generally good, and that most people there are open-minded and inquistive about the wider world. It is currently a divided country and the last elections showed that.

dunkman

farfromglorified wrote:

Does that mean we get out of the Iraq situation?

well technically the Boston thing happened in the US... and then you went on to say what a shit country I live in.

1. i live in scotland... the boston massacre didnt happen there
2. it was 1770 for fucks sake... i had no say in my countries doings back then
3. i dont need a 3 as the first 2 are good enough

LeilaMoonTurtle

The Fox hosts failed to correct the false claim that Obama is Muslim. One caller, referring to Obama, said, “I think a Muslim would be fine in the presidency, better than Hillary. At least you know what the Muslims are up to.” Anchor Gretchen Carlson responded, “We want to be clear, too, that this isn’t all Muslims, of course, we would only be concerned about the kind that want to blow us up.”

jlew24asu

Byrnzie wrote:

I love America. To say otherwise would be a ridiculous statement. I mean, how can you not love the Grand Canyon, for instance, or the Redwoods, or Pearl Jam, or Mark Twain, or a thousand and one other great things?
On the other hand, i do hate the American government, and a lot of right leaning, insular and bigoted pigs in places of power and influence - those blind bastards in 90% of the American media, those in charge of some of the big corporations, those in the arms trade e.t.c. I think it's a shame that a country like America has been allowed to be sold down the river by a handful of rich and powerful scumbags, and to be made the most hated country in the world.
America is too big and varied a place to be summed up easily. I believe that the man on the street in America is generally good, and that most people there are open-minded and inquistive about the wider world. It is currently a divided country and the last elections showed that.

well said my friend, well said

farfromglorified

dunkman1974 wrote:

well technically the Boston thing happened in the US... and then you went on to say what a shit country I live in.

1. i live in scotland... the boston massacre didnt happen there
2. it was 1770 for fucks sake... i had no say in my countries doings back then
3. i dont need a 3 as the first 2 are good enough

Hehe..slow down, hoss. I was just joking around. I don't think you live in a "shit country". I'm just rejecting the ridiculous logic of the original poster.

MrBrian

Yeah, freedom of speech in america can quite easily get you locked up under the patriot act.

dunkman

jlew24asu wrote:

this places gives me limitless opportunity. and I dontknow about yours but I still have freedom of speech.

1. no it doesnt... its not limitless. If you were a black kid from a shitty area then your chances would be less than someone from the Hamptons or somewhere. It might offer YOU limited opportunity but it doesnt offer everyone

2. if you have freedom of speech then please make a banner right now that calls Bush a murderer and then try and get on a plane carrying the koran and wear a t-shirt that has Bush as the FBI's most wanted

Scotland has a greater Freedom of Speech than America right now... and thats undebateable

dunkman

farfromglorified wrote:

Hehe..slow down, hoss. I was just joking around. I don't think you live in a "shit country". I'm just rejecting the ridiculous logic of the original poster.

and i dont think you live in a shit country, and the original posters thread could have been worded better... i agree

miller8966

dunkman1974 wrote:

2. if you have freedom of speech then please make a banner right now that calls Bush a murderer and then try and get on a plane carrying the koran and wear a t-shirt that has Bush as the FBI's most wanted

Scotland has a greater Freedom of Speech than America right now... and thats undebateable

Thats called going overboard. Can i go to england and wear a shirt that says

" Lets blow up more buses!"...i dont think so.

If i knew anything about Scotland id think of a funny rebutal. But because your country is so insignificant i really cant.

MrBrian

Like I said, america at it's core is a great fucking country, but it's so far from that core now, it is quite disgusting.

LeilaMoonTurtle

if the thread would have been started differently it would not have over 35 posts in about 45mins.


Either way I think listening to GRIEVANCE might help.

Pull the innocent from a crowd
Raise the sticks then bring em down

Break the innocent when they're proud...
Raise the stakes,... then bring em down...
If they fail to obey

dunkman1974 wrote:

and i dont think you live in a shit country, and the original posters thread could have been worded better... i agree

dunkman

miller8966 wrote:

Thats called going overboard. Can i go to england and wear a shirt that says.. " Lets blow up more buses!"...i dont think so.

did i say you could? It was Jlew who said that he had Freedom of Speech... i'm pointing out he doesnt have pure Freedom of Speech

miller8966 wrote:

If i knew anything about Scotland id think of a funny rebutal. But because your country is so insignificant i really cant.

you dont know anything about scotland due to the fact you're a thick cunt... as for a funny rebuttal... ever said anything funny? i doubt it! at least I try and learn more about the world we live in.. you only learn about Disneyworld.