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Are we still looking for Bin Laden?

pushmepullmepushmepullme Posts: 255
edited May 2007 in A Moving Train
Remember Bin Laden? He organised an act which killed 3000 people?

Are we still looking for him?
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    I sure hope so. from what I understand, he is in a place where we cant go. tribal areas of pakistan. even pakistan isnt allowed there.
  • MilestoneMilestone Posts: 1,140
    Yeah, I remember that guy. He's the one Bush promised to capture 5 1/2 years ago.

    However, Bush didn't capture him. He needed Bin Laden to help get re-elected in 2004 by pushing fear.

    He will actually be captured in the last month of Bush's presidency, helping to save the president's legacy.
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  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    When it's convenient, we're still looking for him. Right now, Iraq is more important that catching him, unfortunately.
  • jrb112476jrb112476 Posts: 43
    lol...bin laden?? bin laden = cia
  • RushlimboRushlimbo Posts: 832
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I sure hope so. from what I understand, he is in a place where we cant go. tribal areas of pakistan. even pakistan isnt allowed there.

    Where we cant go? When has that stopped us? LOL.
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  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    Once the shit hits the fan in Pakistan and the state's boy Musharif (sp) loses his reign, whoa boy, you can guarantee that the search will be back on. A rogue state called Pakistan is the America's wet dream. Easy access to the land of tribes then. And with your newly armed friend in India, there won't be too much complaints when the bombs start to drop. Go get em comboy!
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    Where we cant go? When has that stopped us? LOL.

    we cant go into pakistan. especially into the tribal areas. LOL
  • rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    jrb112476 wrote:
    lol...bin laden?? bin laden = cia

    Uh huh. And your TV actually broadcasts your thoughts. They are not your own.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    jrb112476 wrote:
    lol...bin laden?? bin laden = cia
    LOL
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  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    pushmepullme wrote:
    Remember Bin Laden? He organised an act which killed 3000 people?

    Are we still looking for him?
    It's a bold assumption to assume he organized 9/11. And can anyone please convince me that we were ever looking for Bin Laden? Because no one has been able to convince me of that yet.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    don't gimme no wrote:
    It's a bold assumption to assume he organized 9/11.
    really? how so?
    don't gimme no wrote:
    And can anyone please convince me that we were ever looking for Bin Laden? Because no one has been able to convince me of that yet.
    how are your reading skills? start here

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tora_Bora
  • RushlimboRushlimbo Posts: 832
    jlew24asu wrote:
    we cant go into pakistan. especially into the tribal areas. LOL

    Why cant we go in there? Do we honor sovereign boundaries now? Did this stop us from entering Afghanistan? Same situation, isnt it? Tell me exactly why we cannot go after Bin Laden in these remote areas of Pakistan. Please explain how this is a different situation than when we entered Afghanistan.
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  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    Why cant we go in there? Do we honor sovereign boundaries now? Did this stop us from entering Afghanistan? Same situation, isnt it? Tell me exactly why we cannot go after Bin Laden in these remote areas of Pakistan. Please explain how this is a different situation than when we entered Afghanistan.


    To put a guess up. Even the idiots in charge of the States know that by doing that it would put Pakistan in a whole heap of trouble(not that they aren't anyway) and then it would be a huge battle on the US hands to try and keep that really big area from not imploding or exploding. Whichever way you think it would go, it would be a disaster.

    I agree with you that the States don't recognize borders but they seem to not be too fast to enter that zone between the two countries. For some strange reason. I guess having half of the Arab world hate you is better then 90 to 100 percent. Aside from carpet bombing (of which the US is good at) their troops would get their asses handed to them by venturing into that neck of the woods. Black Hawk down would look like a love story to the pics you would see coming out of there.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    Why cant we go in there?
    cuz the pakistan government says so.
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    Do we honor sovereign boundaries now?
    yes
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    Did this stop us from entering Afghanistan? Same situation, isnt it?
    no. the government in afgahistan supported al qaeda and bin laden. pakistan does not. see the difference?
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    Tell me exactly why we cannot go after Bin Laden in these remote areas of Pakistan.
    because we are not allowed there. this would entail going for an all out war with pakistan. is that what you want?
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    Please explain how this is a different situation than when we entered Afghanistan.
    i already did but I will again. you'll have to pardon my friend everyone, he's a little slow.

    the taliban government of afgahistan supported al qaeda and osama bin laden. on september 11th 2001, the USA was attacked by al qaeda. the united states gave the taliban about a month to turn over bin laden or risk retaliation for the attacks on 9/11. we overthrew the taliban and forced them into the mountains along the border with pakistan. this are is know as Waziristan. you can learn alot about this area here....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federally_Administered_Tribal_Areas

    pakistan has said bin laden is not there and they do not know where he is. that may or may not be true.

    logically speaking, this is the only area of the world where bin laden can have safe haven. and his only escape route after he was chased from his headquarters in tora bora afganistan. this area has been self governed and lawless for hundreds of years.
  • FredFlintstoneFredFlintstone Posts: 193
    jlew24asu wrote:
    cuz the pakistan government says so.

    yes

    no. the government in afgahistan supported al qaeda and bin laden. pakistan does not. see the difference?

    because we are not allowed there. this would entail going for an all out war with pakistan. is that what you want?

    i already did but I will again. you'll have to pardon my friend everyone, he's a little slow.

    the taliban government of afgahistan supported al qaeda and osama bin laden. on september 11th 2001, the USA was attacked by al qaeda. the united states gave the taliban about a month to turn over bin laden or risk retaliation for the attacks on 9/11. we overthrew the taliban and forced them into the mountains along the border with pakistan. this are is know as Waziristan. you can learn alot about this area here....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federally_Administered_Tribal_Areas

    pakistan has said bin laden is not there and they do not know where he is. that may or may not be true.

    logically speaking, this is the only area of the world where bin laden can have safe haven. and his only escape route after he was chased from his headquarters in tora bora afganistan. this area has been self governed and lawless for hundreds of years.



    We caught Osama in a spider hole nearly 4 years ago. They hung him last year.

    Oh that was Saddam??? Whats the difference again?
    I find it amusing that all the tough talk about chasing dem terrorists around the world only applied to their war of choice in Iraq. Another convenient pretext to an Iraq invasion.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    FredFlintstone wrote:
    We caught Osama in a spider hole nearly 4 years ago. They hung him last year.

    Oh that was Saddam??? Whats the difference again?
    I find it amusing that all the tough talk about chasing dem terrorists around the world only applied to their war of choice in Iraq. Another convenient pretext to an Iraq invasion.

    Iraq and 9/11 are not connected. they only became connected well after the invasion (and saddam) and bin laden instructed al zarkawi to start up al qaeda in iraq

    and your response has absolutely nothing to do with my response to limbo.
  • Bwalker545Bwalker545 Posts: 162
    Osama is probably already dead.. remember he was on kidney dialysis (spelling?). And no way are his boys gonna admit that...he will live "forever"
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Magus wrote:
    Osama is probably already dead.. remember he was on kidney dialysis (spelling?). And no way are his boys gonna admit that...he will live "forever"
    thats certainly possible.
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Magus wrote:
    Osama is probably already dead.. remember he was on kidney dialysis (spelling?). And no way are his boys gonna admit that...he will live "forever"

    And how do we know this? because the CIA met with him in an American owned hospital.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    MrBrian wrote:
    And how do we know this? because the CIA met with him in an American owned hospital.
    what the hell are you talking about
  • citizen_drewcitizen_drew Posts: 170
    jlew24asu wrote:
    Iraq and 9/11 are not connected. they only became connected well after the invasion (and saddam) and bin laden instructed al zarkawi to start up al qaeda in iraq

    and your response has absolutely nothing to do with my response to limbo.

    So al qaeda setting up shop in Iraq, connected Iraq to 9/11 ???
    Then to me that would also mean bin Laden and his al qaeda cronies setting up shop in Pakistan would mean connecting 9/11 to Pakistan as well...either that or we really aren´t interested in finding him...
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    citizen_drew wrote:
    So al qaeda setting up shop in Iraq, connected Iraq to 9/11 ???

    al qaeda attacked on 9/11

    al qaeda (yup the same group) set up shop in Iraq after the invasion.

    where did you get confused?

    citizen_drew wrote:
    Then to me that would also mean bin Laden and his al qaeda cronies setting up shop in Pakistan would mean connecting 9/11 to Pakistan as well
    I agree 100%. what should we do, invade pakistan? i'll be eagerly awaiting your response.
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    jlew24asu wrote:
    what the hell are you talking about

    It was reported that CIA agents met with Usama Bin Laden in a US owned Hospital in Dubai. Also you must wonder how it's known that He was on dialysis.
  • citizen_drewcitizen_drew Posts: 170
    jlew24asu wrote:
    al qaeda attacked on 9/11

    al qaeda (yup the same group) set up shop in Iraq after the invasion.

    where did you get confused?

    Only that we followed them init Iraq and not Pakistan, not confused, it just demonstrates to me he wasn´t the primary objective..

    I agree 100%. what should we do, invade pakistan? i'll be eagerly awaiting your response.

    That would be a bad idea in my opinion..
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    citizen_drew wrote:
    That would be a bad idea in my opinion..
    well the united states government agrees with you. and so do I.

    so for now, we go about catching him any way possible short of invading pakistan.
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  • sonicreducersonicreducer Posts: 713
    so pakistan is harboring a known terrorist within it's borders, right? i mean seriously,... pakistan says we can't go in there,... wtf?
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    sonicreducer wrote:
    so pakistan is harboring a known terrorist within it's borders, right?
    we cant prove that and they say they dont know where he is.
    sonicreducer wrote:
    i mean seriously,... pakistan says we can't go in there,... wtf?
    yea seriously. thats what they say. i'll ask again, should we invade? you, me and everybody else will say no.

    so what does that mean? we dont want to catch him I guess.
  • moeaholicmoeaholic Posts: 535
    Milestone wrote:
    He will actually be captured in the last month of Bush's presidency, helping to save the president's legacy.

    basically the same thing that was said going into the '04 elections, he'd be captured to win bush the presidency. if i'm not mistaken, it was also said before an off year election, to keep the republicans in control...he'd be captured right before the elections and everyone would vote republican. now it's being pushed back to right before bush leaves? come on, make up your mind. when will he be caught?
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