How no oxygen theres and maze of tunnels under there where oxygen can be sucked through.
Sucked through after a 110 story building has densely compacted into it?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
still going, nothing outlasts the rolanddrummer. he keeps going, and going, and going, and going...
Cme up with something or otherwise concede.
You have to admit it's one hell of a good point.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
All that dust debris and you think really so? That pit was plugged solid. A lot of building came down there my friend.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
i answered it long ago. and you never did get round to actually responding to my points. not that i care much anymore. you've got an ideology to defend, reason is useless against that. i know from years of debating christians. enjoy your theories.
i answered it long ago. and you never did get round to actually responding to my points.
I don't think you did, and I think I did a post or two later.... I remember correctly.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
So you have evidence of that? Isn't that what you ask everyone else?
What does common sense tell you? All that building compacted down into it's own footprint and it was a loose fill?
right...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I don't think you did, and I think I did a post or two later.... I remember correctly.
no, you said "jet fuel couldn't do it" which had nothing to do with my points. when i pointed that out, you said "oh yeah, i already answered." you're as good as dubya at ignoring the actual question and just answering the question you want becos it helps your cause the most.
no, you said "jet fuel couldn't do it" which had nothing to do with my points. when i pointed that out, you said "oh yeah, i already answered." you're as good as dubya at ignoring the actual question and just answering the question you want becos it helps your cause the most.
And nothing talked about afterwards has since touched upon on your question? I find that hard to believe.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
And nothing talked about afterwards has since touched upon on your question? I find that hard to believe.
i stopped reading. by the time i came back from my real life the thread had doubled and i don't care enough to catch up anymore. i'm not going to change your mind and your armchair science isn't going to help me.
what is your profession? are you a geologist? engineer? physics phd? if not, is any of the shit you're spouting stuff you actually know? or are you just lifting points from loose change and anonymous scientific you found "online" by people who most likely have never been anywhere near the site of the collapse?
i stopped reading. by the time i came back from my real life the thread had doubled and i don't care enough to catch up anymore. i'm not going to change your mind and your armchair science isn't going to help me.
what is your profession? are you a geologist? engineer? physics phd? if not, is any of the shit you're spouting stuff you actually know? or are you just lifting points from loose change and anonymous scientific you found "online" by people who most likely have never been anywhere near the site of the collapse?
lol...I knew it..
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
What does common sense tell you? All that building compacted down into it's own footprint and it was a loose fill?
right...
Well first off it didn't come close to falling within its own footprint.
Try again.
Seeing visions of falling up somehow.
Pensacola '94 New Orleans '95 Birmingham '98 New Orleans '00 New Orleans '03 Tampa '08 New Orleans '10 - Jazzfest New Orleans '16 - Jazzfest Fenway Park '18 St. Louis '22
What does common sense tell you? All that building compacted down into it's own footprint and it was a loose fill?
right...
my common sense tells me that yes when those buildings collapsed there is no way the debris collapsed perfectly to eliminate all pockets of air.
if it did then i would have cause to be suspicious. we are not talking about a jigsaw here. we are talking about two 110 story buildings, each hit by a plane, falling in on itself. we are talking about exceptional circumstances.
come on roland, surely you've seen the results of the destruction of a building. tis not nice and neat. it's messy.
no one is saying ALL the debris fell within the buildings' footprints. what we are saying is that yes tis possible that pockets of oxygen were present, which in turn made it possible for a fire to be fueled.
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knew that i'm unconvinced by your negative proofs? yeah, i've amde that pretty clear. you can't make me believe that creationism is true by poking at a few holes in evolution, and you can't make me believe dick cheney personally blew up the WTC by saying that the biggest disaster in american history has produced a few puzzles that scientists are still working on figuring out.
What does common sense tell you? All that building compacted down into it's own footprint and it was a loose fill?
right...
Yeah right!!! Just as believeable as your 'plug' theory. Its no use trying to talk sense with you dude. And for you to try and talk about 'common sense' is the most laughable thing I've read in this whole thread. thats saying something considering the crap thats in this thread.
knew that i'm unconvinced by your negative proofs? yeah, i've amde that pretty clear. you can't make me believe that creationism is true by poking at a few holes in evolution, and you can't make me believe dick cheney personally blew up the WTC by saying that the biggest disaster in american history has produced a few puzzles that scientists are still working on figuring out.
Ok that's fine...but what exactly does that change?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Yeah right!!! Just as believeable as your 'plug' theory. Its no use trying to talk sense with you dude. And for you to try and talk about 'common sense' is the most laughable thing I've read in this whole thread. thats saying something considering the crap thats in this thread.
And you know better? how exactly?
Oh...ok...right...I think I know where the air is coming from now
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
careful roland. your query can be directed right back at you.
and let's face it, you guys are always full of (hot) air.
I like how some people just swallow....and swallow...and swallow...
Thus must make great sex partners...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I like how some people just swallow....and swallow...and swallow...
Thus must make great sex partners...
If there was no oxygen present then how did the pools of molten steel still exist?
Seeing visions of falling up somehow.
Pensacola '94 New Orleans '95 Birmingham '98 New Orleans '00 New Orleans '03 Tampa '08 New Orleans '10 - Jazzfest New Orleans '16 - Jazzfest Fenway Park '18 St. Louis '22
Ok that's fine...but what exactly does that change?
nothing really. i just think it's kinda ridiculous that you're on here ranting about all us sheep who believe the official reports on this tragedy, then you instantly follow it by telling us all we should believe you instead. yeah, cos you've given us plenty of reason to find you a credible source.
yeah, there are questions about that day. i dont think we've heard anywhere near the full story and the investigation was shoddily done.
but, let's assume your theory is true. what does THAT change? i already know the parties in power are shady (lies to get to iraq anyone?) and if you are right and they managed to pull off the biggest conspiracy in history involving thousands of people and NONE have talked... i rather doubt a bunch of internet conspiracy geeks are ever going to bring them to justice. so this nonsense is just a divisive distraction. it works to their benefit. while we've got half the left still arguing over what happened that day... we're NOT talking about what to do to fix this country. while they can paint the left as nutty conspiracy theorists (and that is how it goes down, period... becos like i said, you're never going to be able to prove it) nobody has to listen to the substantive points they are making about elitism and abuse of power. you have no evidence, just a bunch of holes and working in the justice field, even the BEST cases are full of holes. that is what is called imperfect reality. aka life. so this gets us nowhere and discrediting yourself and the movement by pursuing this don quixote quest to prove that dick cheney personally slaughtered 3000 americans is not going to get you anywhere in terms of bringing people to your side and unifying an opposition to the neocon agenda.
you love your kennedys... for all the 40+ years of theorizing, has anyone gotten ANYWHERE near proving anything? and at best, that one involved 2-3 extra shooters.
it's almost like an addictive fetish. some people read trashy romance novels, some read shlock mystery novels. some watch american idol. some listen to rush and get outraged over the godless libs ruining christmas. and some eat up any and every conspiracy theory they can get their hands on with a greasy spoon.
the unsubtle inference is that by choosing the official but imperfect theories over his unfounded but very sexy conspiracy theories, you are a cum guzzling slut.
the unsubtle inference is that by choosing the official but imperfect theories over his unfounded but very sexy conspiracy theories, you are a cum guzzling slut.
hey if a guy is willing to blow a month's wages getting me drunk i will be more than willing to say i believe LHO shot JFK. if that makes me a slut then line 'em up.
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take a good look
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How no oxygen theres and maze of tunnels under there where oxygen can be sucked through.
Sucked through after a 110 story building has densely compacted into it?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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Cme up with something or otherwise concede.
You have to admit it's one hell of a good point.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
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yeah dude!! very possible
All that dust debris and you think really so? That pit was plugged solid. A lot of building came down there my friend.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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not just building. :(
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
So you have evidence of that? Isn't that what you ask everyone else?
i answered it long ago. and you never did get round to actually responding to my points. not that i care much anymore. you've got an ideology to defend, reason is useless against that. i know from years of debating christians. enjoy your theories.
I don't think you did, and I think I did a post or two later.... I remember correctly.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
What does common sense tell you? All that building compacted down into it's own footprint and it was a loose fill?
right...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
no, you said "jet fuel couldn't do it" which had nothing to do with my points. when i pointed that out, you said "oh yeah, i already answered." you're as good as dubya at ignoring the actual question and just answering the question you want becos it helps your cause the most.
And nothing talked about afterwards has since touched upon on your question? I find that hard to believe.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
i stopped reading. by the time i came back from my real life the thread had doubled and i don't care enough to catch up anymore. i'm not going to change your mind and your armchair science isn't going to help me.
what is your profession? are you a geologist? engineer? physics phd? if not, is any of the shit you're spouting stuff you actually know? or are you just lifting points from loose change and anonymous scientific you found "online" by people who most likely have never been anywhere near the site of the collapse?
lol...I knew it..
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Well first off it didn't come close to falling within its own footprint.
Try again.
Pensacola '94
New Orleans '95
Birmingham '98
New Orleans '00
New Orleans '03
Tampa '08
New Orleans '10 - Jazzfest
New Orleans '16 - Jazzfest
Fenway Park '18
St. Louis '22
my common sense tells me that yes when those buildings collapsed there is no way the debris collapsed perfectly to eliminate all pockets of air.
if it did then i would have cause to be suspicious. we are not talking about a jigsaw here. we are talking about two 110 story buildings, each hit by a plane, falling in on itself. we are talking about exceptional circumstances.
come on roland, surely you've seen the results of the destruction of a building. tis not nice and neat. it's messy.
no one is saying ALL the debris fell within the buildings' footprints. what we are saying is that yes tis possible that pockets of oxygen were present, which in turn made it possible for a fire to be fueled.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
knew that i'm unconvinced by your negative proofs? yeah, i've amde that pretty clear. you can't make me believe that creationism is true by poking at a few holes in evolution, and you can't make me believe dick cheney personally blew up the WTC by saying that the biggest disaster in american history has produced a few puzzles that scientists are still working on figuring out.
Yeah right!!! Just as believeable as your 'plug' theory. Its no use trying to talk sense with you dude. And for you to try and talk about 'common sense' is the most laughable thing I've read in this whole thread. thats saying something considering the crap thats in this thread.
Ok that's fine...but what exactly does that change?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
And you know better? how exactly?
Oh...ok...right...I think I know where the air is coming from now
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
careful roland. your query can be directed right back at you.
and let's face it, you guys are always full of (hot) air.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
I like how some people just swallow....and swallow...and swallow...
Thus must make great sex partners...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
If there was no oxygen present then how did the pools of molten steel still exist?
Pensacola '94
New Orleans '95
Birmingham '98
New Orleans '00
New Orleans '03
Tampa '08
New Orleans '10 - Jazzfest
New Orleans '16 - Jazzfest
Fenway Park '18
St. Louis '22
excuse me? what the fuck does that mean?
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
nothing really. i just think it's kinda ridiculous that you're on here ranting about all us sheep who believe the official reports on this tragedy, then you instantly follow it by telling us all we should believe you instead. yeah, cos you've given us plenty of reason to find you a credible source.
yeah, there are questions about that day. i dont think we've heard anywhere near the full story and the investigation was shoddily done.
but, let's assume your theory is true. what does THAT change? i already know the parties in power are shady (lies to get to iraq anyone?) and if you are right and they managed to pull off the biggest conspiracy in history involving thousands of people and NONE have talked... i rather doubt a bunch of internet conspiracy geeks are ever going to bring them to justice. so this nonsense is just a divisive distraction. it works to their benefit. while we've got half the left still arguing over what happened that day... we're NOT talking about what to do to fix this country. while they can paint the left as nutty conspiracy theorists (and that is how it goes down, period... becos like i said, you're never going to be able to prove it) nobody has to listen to the substantive points they are making about elitism and abuse of power. you have no evidence, just a bunch of holes and working in the justice field, even the BEST cases are full of holes. that is what is called imperfect reality. aka life. so this gets us nowhere and discrediting yourself and the movement by pursuing this don quixote quest to prove that dick cheney personally slaughtered 3000 americans is not going to get you anywhere in terms of bringing people to your side and unifying an opposition to the neocon agenda.
you love your kennedys... for all the 40+ years of theorizing, has anyone gotten ANYWHERE near proving anything? and at best, that one involved 2-3 extra shooters.
it's almost like an addictive fetish. some people read trashy romance novels, some read shlock mystery novels. some watch american idol. some listen to rush and get outraged over the godless libs ruining christmas. and some eat up any and every conspiracy theory they can get their hands on with a greasy spoon.
the unsubtle inference is that by choosing the official but imperfect theories over his unfounded but very sexy conspiracy theories, you are a cum guzzling slut.
dont let him get to ya cate. he is a google zinger master.
the government.
hey if a guy is willing to blow a month's wages getting me drunk i will be more than willing to say i believe LHO shot JFK.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say