How many time has this been said in this thread four...five...six times?
Ok now finish the sentence...and the the melting occurred because of _____?
The precipitated iron in the dust samples came from _____?
The official report was a half baked piece of _____!!
Here is a good sight to read about the dust samples. Yet another example of asking well versed questions and only giving the explanations that support your claim. Meanwhile, many of the other examples make so much more sense that you would be foolish not to believe them.
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The firemen?...Did they look like they were joking to you? Watch and listen to all three of them respond in unison.
Honestly, I am not going to waste my time watching videos like this. So what if the firemen say there was molten steel. It proves nothing except that there were high temperatures and high pressure being exerted on the steel which would have caused this to happen.
Seeing visions of falling up somehow.
Pensacola '94 New Orleans '95 Birmingham '98 New Orleans '00 New Orleans '03 Tampa '08 New Orleans '10 - Jazzfest New Orleans '16 - Jazzfest Fenway Park '18 St. Louis '22
Here is a good sight to read about the dust samples. Yet another example of asking well versed questions and only giving the explanations that support your claim. Meanwhile, many of the other examples make so much more sense that you would be foolish not to believe them.
I listed 4 other credible sources (organizations) that found the iron pellets in dust samples collected. Way back in this thread.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Honestly, I am not going to waste my time watching videos like this. So what if the firemen say there was molten steel. It proves nothing except that there were high temperatures and high pressure being exerted on the steel which would have caused this to happen.
Maybe you should apply for a job at NIST...they haven't thought of that apparently.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Maybe you should apply for a job at NIST...they haven't thought of that apparently.
On with it...
So I'll ask you. How did the towers fall? Please explain in the kind of detail that is provided in the NIST report. That means you have to explain, with proof, how explosives were planted and how they managed to set off these charges in the exact location that the planes hit as this was the point of initiation of collapse.
I await your answer.
Lack of a complete answer will be taken as an admission that your position lacks merit.
One dude is does not the NIST make. Where can I find his statement?
as per the NIST website
"7a. How could the steel have melted if the fires in the WTC towers weren’t hot enough to do so?
In no instance did NIST report that steel in the WTC towers melted due to the fires. The melting point of steel is about 1,500 degrees Celsius (2,800 degrees Fahrenheit). Normal building fires and hydrocarbon (e.g., jet fuel) fires generate temperatures up to about 1,100 degrees Celsius (2,000 degrees Fahrenheit). NIST reported maximum upper layer air temperatures of about 1,000 degrees Celsius (1,800 degrees Fahrenheit) in the WTC towers (for example, see NCSTAR 1, Figure 6-36). "
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I listed 4 other credible sources (organizations) that found the iron pellets in dust samples collected. Way back in this thread.
So.
And that sight i posted gives explanations that could describe them.
Seeing visions of falling up somehow.
Pensacola '94 New Orleans '95 Birmingham '98 New Orleans '00 New Orleans '03 Tampa '08 New Orleans '10 - Jazzfest New Orleans '16 - Jazzfest Fenway Park '18 St. Louis '22
"7a. How could the steel have melted if the fires in the WTC towers weren’t hot enough to do so?
In no instance did NIST report that steel in the WTC towers melted due to the fires. The melting point of steel is about 1,500 degrees Celsius (2,800 degrees Fahrenheit). Normal building fires and hydrocarbon (e.g., jet fuel) fires generate temperatures up to about 1,100 degrees Celsius (2,000 degrees Fahrenheit). NIST reported maximum upper layer air temperatures of about 1,000 degrees Celsius (1,800 degrees Fahrenheit) in the WTC towers (for example, see NCSTAR 1, Figure 6-36). "
Ok, and i read this as the NIST stating that no steel melted during the fire prior to collapse. We can all agree on that.
So you have proven nothing.
Seeing visions of falling up somehow.
Pensacola '94 New Orleans '95 Birmingham '98 New Orleans '00 New Orleans '03 Tampa '08 New Orleans '10 - Jazzfest New Orleans '16 - Jazzfest Fenway Park '18 St. Louis '22
"7a. How could the steel have melted if the fires in the WTC towers weren’t hot enough to do so?
In no instance did NIST report that steel in the WTC towers melted due to the fires. The melting point of steel is about 1,500 degrees Celsius (2,800 degrees Fahrenheit). Normal building fires and hydrocarbon (e.g., jet fuel) fires generate temperatures up to about 1,100 degrees Celsius (2,000 degrees Fahrenheit). NIST reported maximum upper layer air temperatures of about 1,000 degrees Celsius (1,800 degrees Fahrenheit) in the WTC towers (for example, see NCSTAR 1, Figure 6-36). "
Yeah, this does not address your "pools of molten steel" this has entirely to do with the fire prior to the collapse and is confirmed by my other post on the subject.
Are you ever going to answer this...
On with it...
So I'll ask you. How did the towers fall? Please explain in the kind of detail that is provided in the NIST report. That means you have to explain, with proof, how explosives were planted and how they managed to set off these charges in the exact location that the planes hit as this was the point of initiation of collapse.
I await your answer.
Lack of a complete answer will be taken as an admission that your position lacks merit.
Ok, and i read this as the NIST stating that no steel melted during the fire prior to collapse. We can all agree on that.
So you have proven nothing.
Anyhow,...the concept goes something like this (I just randomly chose this link from one of many that outlines the concept of what I am saying).
Oxygen being the key contributor to fire temperatures, and the findings in a densely packed pit 70 feet below ground. Not a lot of oxygen is going to there in comparison to 70 feet above at ground level.
"The hottest spots at the surface of the rubble, where abundant oxygen was available, were much cooler than the molten steel found in the basements. Five days after the collapse, on September 16, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) used an Airborne Visible/Infrared Imaging Spectrometer (AVIRIS) to locate and measure the site's hot spots. Dozens of hot spots were mapped, the hottest being in the east corner of the South Tower where a temperature of 1377° F (747° C) was recorded. This is, however, less than half as hot at the molten steel in the basement."
edit don't bother reading past "central columns severed"
it's unrelated to this point imo...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
They are there...I'm not going backwards to look I posted 4.. THE EPA found the same iron pellets in their dust samples.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
If that's the only one you caught you have some reading comprehension homework for tonight. Go back and reread the thread. This time read for content and meaning. Then come back and tell us if you remember reading any other explanations. Good luck.
BTW, which type of loon are you? The missles into the towers loon or the controlled demolition loon?
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
No way. I don't buy it. Way too many fuck ups to be coincidental, far too many lies...too much covering up of evidence.
No way.
who's talking about coincidence?
and let's not forget you lie once, then you need another to cover up the initial lie.and another and then another. even if the initial lie was innocent enough. tis a never ending spiral until you don't even know your own name anymore. same with fuck ups. you don't admit to your first one, no way will you be admitting to anything that comes after and because of that first one. so you call in the spin doctors and use it to your advantage, which as we have seen is what this administration has done. plus they've dragged other countries into the bullshit. and who pays the price?
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Oxygen being the key contributor to fire temperatures, and the findings in a densely packed pit 70 feet below ground. Not a lot of oxygen is going to there in comparison to 70 feet above at ground level.
Burning Mountain
Located 3.8 km north of the Highland Home is the clearly signposted turnoff to a car park with picnic-barbecue facilities, a toilet block and an information shed at the foot of the 3.5-km walking trail. As the path can get steep be sure to take some water in summer.
The name of the mountain derives from the sulphurous smoke which comes from fissures in the ground. It was well-known to the Wanaruah people who called it Wingen (meaning 'fire') and probably used it for warmth, tool manufacture and cooking.
It is said that the first European to notice smoke rising from the hills to the north was a farm hand named Smart working at Cressfield Station (about 9 km south) in 1828. He thought it was a bush fire but as it did not change or move over a period of days he went to have a look and came back declaring he had found a volcano. The story made the Sydney newspapers in March 1828 and several expeditions ensued.
By 1829 it was known that it was a burning coal seam, part of the 235-million-year-old Greta Series which forms the main coalfields of the Hunter Valley. As one section of the seam is burnt out the fire moves on to the next. However, as it is some 30 m underground there is little oxygen so the rate of combustion is slow. Consequently the burning site moves about one metre southwards each year. As it has moved 6 km it is estimated that it has been burning for approximately the last 5500 years. It has shifted 150 m since 1828. As the seam was once exposed to the surface it is speculated that a bushfire may have ignited it, although sulphur is capable of spontaneous combustion after heating.
Starting at the car park, cross over the small timber bridge, past the small lagoon and start up the steps. This area is characterised by narrow-leaved ironbark, grey box and rough-barked apple.
The soil here is Permian sandstone and conglomerate, reflecting the fact that this area was once covered by water as great rivers flowed from the north-east into a delta. Consequently there are large numbers of fossils deposited in pockets particularly in the group of boulders further along the walking track where it crosses the quarry road.
The thorny wattles and dead logs aside the path provide havens for insects and goannas. The view rapidly improves as the steep track elevates you above the tree-line. Once you reach the top of the hill and cross the grassy plateau you come to a gully created by subsidence where the land has collapsed into the space left by the burnt-out coal seam. The resulting cracks and vents permit the expulsion of smoke and the inhalation of oxygen which fuels the fire.
The path of the burning seam can easily be followed from here due to the reddened soil which is readily apparent. The trees here are younger reflecting the fact that the preceding vegetation was killed by the intense heat. Run-off from the burnt soil has altered conditions in favour of the stringybark community. The Wanaruah made the bark of this tree into a twine which they used in fishing and basket-making. The Europeans also used it for rope. The outer bark was used in the roofing of gunyah huts.
A little further on the path leads to a footbridge over a ravine which focuses attention westwards and downwards into the gully where claystones have been baked solid into brick-like forms, hence its popular name, 'the brickpits'. It is thought that the indigenous inhabitants used these hard stones in their weapons. The very dark brown soil marks the boundary of the basalt produced by volcanic lava.
Tea-trees surround the path as it climbs again to the current chimney area. With the exception of lichens and mosses they are the first to grow after the ground cools. A sign draws attention to the prospect of the Wingen Maid in the distance and the Aboriginal interpretation of the rock formation. In fact the view (653 m above sea-level) is one of the major attractions of this spot.
On the last leg of the path plants begin to disappear due to the heat. The track then reaches the current vent area. What one sees is essentially a plantless section of baked rock covered with a white patina while wisps of diffuse pale smoke drift into the air. What you smell is distinctly sulphurous and what one feels is an encompassing glow of warmth emanating from a surface which is a toasting 350°C. The temperature at the seam is thought to be about 1700°C as the heat has difficulty escaping.
The white covering is not ash but sinter, alum and sulphur, deposited on the surface through the condensation of the highly acidic gases. For about 50 years the chimney area was covered with the pipes and ducts of the Winjennia Company which drew off the fumes to obtain alum which was used in an ointment and liquid claimed to possess therapeutic qualities.
It is said that wedge-tailed eagles sometimes use the thermal currents to attain elevation.
Endearing story. The center of the earth is hot...has been for a long time.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Damn this went on for 20 pages, absolutely drowning the fact that a foretold 9/11 but the authorities letting it happen is as horrible as the most absurd conspiracy theory just much more plausible.
Damn this went on for 20 pages, absolutely drowning the fact that a foretold 9/11 but the authorities letting it happen is as horrible as the most absurd conspiracy theory just much more plausible.
There's not a lot of critical thinking to be found on this site with regards to the subject. It's more about attacking other people. Some individuals on this board actually add nothing to the conversation outside of ongoing personal insults.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
you get facts throw in your face and you completely dismiss it and add a zinger. you are way too predictable. brick wall.
where did the melted steel come from ?? yea yea yea. you wouldnt believe me if I told ya.
Read the article I posted a few notches and tell the hamsters to spin the wheel in your noggin.
Let me know. This thread got pretty quiet after I posted that.
I actually have to do stuff today but let me know turns up for you on the factual side of things.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
so who is Christopher Bollyn? leading expert on what exactly?
Someone observant of the facts of the matter. The official guys are quoted directly as to what they saw, and what is possible in that situation. No oxygen......no fire...no heat.
It's dead simple physics my friend.
So what melted the steel?
Damn good question.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Someone observant of the facts of the matter. The official guys are quoted directly as to what they saw, and what is possible in that situation. No oxygen......no fire...no heat.
No oxygen...no heat. Pressure alone is not going to do it.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Comments
Here is a good sight to read about the dust samples. Yet another example of asking well versed questions and only giving the explanations that support your claim. Meanwhile, many of the other examples make so much more sense that you would be foolish not to believe them.
http://www.911myths.com/html/traces_of_thermate_at_the_wtc.html
Pensacola '94
New Orleans '95
Birmingham '98
New Orleans '00
New Orleans '03
Tampa '08
New Orleans '10 - Jazzfest
New Orleans '16 - Jazzfest
Fenway Park '18
St. Louis '22
Honestly, I am not going to waste my time watching videos like this. So what if the firemen say there was molten steel. It proves nothing except that there were high temperatures and high pressure being exerted on the steel which would have caused this to happen.
Pensacola '94
New Orleans '95
Birmingham '98
New Orleans '00
New Orleans '03
Tampa '08
New Orleans '10 - Jazzfest
New Orleans '16 - Jazzfest
Fenway Park '18
St. Louis '22
I listed 4 other credible sources (organizations) that found the iron pellets in dust samples collected. Way back in this thread.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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Maybe you should apply for a job at NIST...they haven't thought of that apparently.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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One dude is does not the NIST make. Where can I find his statement?
4? I found one. neither being credible or proof....
http://www.ae911truth.org/images/gallery/dust.jpg
On with it...
So I'll ask you. How did the towers fall? Please explain in the kind of detail that is provided in the NIST report. That means you have to explain, with proof, how explosives were planted and how they managed to set off these charges in the exact location that the planes hit as this was the point of initiation of collapse.
I await your answer.
Lack of a complete answer will be taken as an admission that your position lacks merit.
as per the NIST website
"7a. How could the steel have melted if the fires in the WTC towers weren’t hot enough to do so?
In no instance did NIST report that steel in the WTC towers melted due to the fires. The melting point of steel is about 1,500 degrees Celsius (2,800 degrees Fahrenheit). Normal building fires and hydrocarbon (e.g., jet fuel) fires generate temperatures up to about 1,100 degrees Celsius (2,000 degrees Fahrenheit). NIST reported maximum upper layer air temperatures of about 1,000 degrees Celsius (1,800 degrees Fahrenheit) in the WTC towers (for example, see NCSTAR 1, Figure 6-36). "
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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So.
And that sight i posted gives explanations that could describe them.
Pensacola '94
New Orleans '95
Birmingham '98
New Orleans '00
New Orleans '03
Tampa '08
New Orleans '10 - Jazzfest
New Orleans '16 - Jazzfest
Fenway Park '18
St. Louis '22
Ok, and i read this as the NIST stating that no steel melted during the fire prior to collapse. We can all agree on that.
So you have proven nothing.
Pensacola '94
New Orleans '95
Birmingham '98
New Orleans '00
New Orleans '03
Tampa '08
New Orleans '10 - Jazzfest
New Orleans '16 - Jazzfest
Fenway Park '18
St. Louis '22
Yeah, this does not address your "pools of molten steel" this has entirely to do with the fire prior to the collapse and is confirmed by my other post on the subject.
Are you ever going to answer this...
On with it...
So I'll ask you. How did the towers fall? Please explain in the kind of detail that is provided in the NIST report. That means you have to explain, with proof, how explosives were planted and how they managed to set off these charges in the exact location that the planes hit as this was the point of initiation of collapse.
I await your answer.
Lack of a complete answer will be taken as an admission that your position lacks merit.
Anyhow,...the concept goes something like this (I just randomly chose this link from one of many that outlines the concept of what I am saying).
Oxygen being the key contributor to fire temperatures, and the findings in a densely packed pit 70 feet below ground. Not a lot of oxygen is going to there in comparison to 70 feet above at ground level.
"The hottest spots at the surface of the rubble, where abundant oxygen was available, were much cooler than the molten steel found in the basements. Five days after the collapse, on September 16, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) used an Airborne Visible/Infrared Imaging Spectrometer (AVIRIS) to locate and measure the site's hot spots. Dozens of hot spots were mapped, the hottest being in the east corner of the South Tower where a temperature of 1377° F (747° C) was recorded. This is, however, less than half as hot at the molten steel in the basement."
from here ...read at "molten steel"
edit don't bother reading past "central columns severed"
it's unrelated to this point imo...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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They are there...I'm not going backwards to look I posted 4.. THE EPA found the same iron pellets in their dust samples.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Oh right, boxes of recycled paper! Good One!
You got to spend it all
If that's the only one you caught you have some reading comprehension homework for tonight. Go back and reread the thread. This time read for content and meaning. Then come back and tell us if you remember reading any other explanations. Good luck.
BTW, which type of loon are you? The missles into the towers loon or the controlled demolition loon?
who's talking about coincidence?
and let's not forget you lie once, then you need another to cover up the initial lie.and another and then another. even if the initial lie was innocent enough. tis a never ending spiral until you don't even know your own name anymore. same with fuck ups. you don't admit to your first one, no way will you be admitting to anything that comes after and because of that first one. so you call in the spin doctors and use it to your advantage, which as we have seen is what this administration has done. plus they've dragged other countries into the bullshit. and who pays the price?
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Burning Mountain
Located 3.8 km north of the Highland Home is the clearly signposted turnoff to a car park with picnic-barbecue facilities, a toilet block and an information shed at the foot of the 3.5-km walking trail. As the path can get steep be sure to take some water in summer.
The name of the mountain derives from the sulphurous smoke which comes from fissures in the ground. It was well-known to the Wanaruah people who called it Wingen (meaning 'fire') and probably used it for warmth, tool manufacture and cooking.
It is said that the first European to notice smoke rising from the hills to the north was a farm hand named Smart working at Cressfield Station (about 9 km south) in 1828. He thought it was a bush fire but as it did not change or move over a period of days he went to have a look and came back declaring he had found a volcano. The story made the Sydney newspapers in March 1828 and several expeditions ensued.
By 1829 it was known that it was a burning coal seam, part of the 235-million-year-old Greta Series which forms the main coalfields of the Hunter Valley. As one section of the seam is burnt out the fire moves on to the next. However, as it is some 30 m underground there is little oxygen so the rate of combustion is slow. Consequently the burning site moves about one metre southwards each year. As it has moved 6 km it is estimated that it has been burning for approximately the last 5500 years. It has shifted 150 m since 1828. As the seam was once exposed to the surface it is speculated that a bushfire may have ignited it, although sulphur is capable of spontaneous combustion after heating.
Starting at the car park, cross over the small timber bridge, past the small lagoon and start up the steps. This area is characterised by narrow-leaved ironbark, grey box and rough-barked apple.
The soil here is Permian sandstone and conglomerate, reflecting the fact that this area was once covered by water as great rivers flowed from the north-east into a delta. Consequently there are large numbers of fossils deposited in pockets particularly in the group of boulders further along the walking track where it crosses the quarry road.
The thorny wattles and dead logs aside the path provide havens for insects and goannas. The view rapidly improves as the steep track elevates you above the tree-line. Once you reach the top of the hill and cross the grassy plateau you come to a gully created by subsidence where the land has collapsed into the space left by the burnt-out coal seam. The resulting cracks and vents permit the expulsion of smoke and the inhalation of oxygen which fuels the fire.
The path of the burning seam can easily be followed from here due to the reddened soil which is readily apparent. The trees here are younger reflecting the fact that the preceding vegetation was killed by the intense heat. Run-off from the burnt soil has altered conditions in favour of the stringybark community. The Wanaruah made the bark of this tree into a twine which they used in fishing and basket-making. The Europeans also used it for rope. The outer bark was used in the roofing of gunyah huts.
A little further on the path leads to a footbridge over a ravine which focuses attention westwards and downwards into the gully where claystones have been baked solid into brick-like forms, hence its popular name, 'the brickpits'. It is thought that the indigenous inhabitants used these hard stones in their weapons. The very dark brown soil marks the boundary of the basalt produced by volcanic lava.
Tea-trees surround the path as it climbs again to the current chimney area. With the exception of lichens and mosses they are the first to grow after the ground cools. A sign draws attention to the prospect of the Wingen Maid in the distance and the Aboriginal interpretation of the rock formation. In fact the view (653 m above sea-level) is one of the major attractions of this spot.
On the last leg of the path plants begin to disappear due to the heat. The track then reaches the current vent area. What one sees is essentially a plantless section of baked rock covered with a white patina while wisps of diffuse pale smoke drift into the air. What you smell is distinctly sulphurous and what one feels is an encompassing glow of warmth emanating from a surface which is a toasting 350°C. The temperature at the seam is thought to be about 1700°C as the heat has difficulty escaping.
The white covering is not ash but sinter, alum and sulphur, deposited on the surface through the condensation of the highly acidic gases. For about 50 years the chimney area was covered with the pipes and ducts of the Winjennia Company which drew off the fumes to obtain alum which was used in an ointment and liquid claimed to possess therapeutic qualities.
It is said that wedge-tailed eagles sometimes use the thermal currents to attain elevation.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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There's not a lot of critical thinking to be found on this site with regards to the subject. It's more about attacking other people. Some individuals on this board actually add nothing to the conversation outside of ongoing personal insults.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
you get facts throw in your face and you completely dismiss it and add a zinger. you are way too predictable. brick wall.
where did the melted steel come from ?? yea yea yea. you wouldnt believe me if I told ya.
Read the article I posted a few notches and tell the hamsters to spin the wheel in your noggin.
Let me know. This thread got pretty quiet after I posted that.
I actually have to do stuff today but let me know turns up for you on the factual side of things.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
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anther hot zinger good job.
so who is Christopher Bollyn? leading expert on what exactly?
he is kinda like an O'Reilly for liberals. he tells it like it is sometimes and can be a real asshole about it. but I have no problem with that.
Someone observant of the facts of the matter. The official guys are quoted directly as to what they saw, and what is possible in that situation. No oxygen......no fire...no heat.
It's dead simple physics my friend.
So what melted the steel?
Damn good question.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
heat and pressure.
No oxygen...no heat. Pressure alone is not going to do it.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
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