I'll say it: I think it's insulting that McCain chose
justam
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this woman to try to attract the women that voted for Hillary.
It's as if he thinks "One woman is as good as the next." As if he doesn't realize that people voted for Hillary because they also thought she was a good candidate!
It's maddening!!!
It's as if he thinks "One woman is as good as the next." As if he doesn't realize that people voted for Hillary because they also thought she was a good candidate!
It's maddening!!!
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take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Yes.
Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
Me too!!
But seriously---the guy is old and has had cancer 4 x!!!! What if she became PRESIDENT!
Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
The problem is, they're going for the clown vote.
OMG! :eek:
You're right!!
lol.
Yeah Dubya did get elected twice.
Yep
it is that..
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
I didn't think he did this to pander to women so much as to get his own 'flashy'/'historical' type of ticket, and also to deflect media attention away from Obama's speech.
"Sometimes life should be consumed in measured doses"
6-01-06
6/25/08
Free Speedy
and Metsy!
OMG - this is the stuff nightmares are made of! :eek:
Seriously though, Gov Palin has very little experience at the state level and no experience with foreign policy! And John McCain is 72 years old! The chances of her becoming the president are pretty good.
How can she seriously even think of keeping the polar bears off the endangered species list? NPR report today - the ice is at it's second lowest level in the 30 years that they've kept track...and it's supposed to pass that level in the next couple weeks.
She is pretty, but so what? Pretty women are a dime a dozen.
It did seem like an act of desperation didn't it? That speech must have frightened him.
All Hillary has to do is publicly poo-poo Palin, to "terminate with extreme prejudice", figuratively speaking of course, and that's that sorted. I think she might even do it.
A strong independent woman being nomiated as VP is maddening to you...
but a woman being degraded by her husband throughout her entire adult life, and her taking it, and refusing to stand up for herself b/c of her own political ambitions is not maddening to you?
this vs. a bad ass woman who rolls into her state capitol standing up to the good ole boys not caring what anyone thinks...but standing on what she KNOWS is right
seriously, who do you admire more on a personal level more? who do you think is more independent as a woman? who would you rather have your daughter be? hillary, or palin?
seems like an obvious decision.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
She's a pro-life supporter with five kids. Hardly an Angela Davis.
Are you insane?
I wouldn't vote for her because I wouldn't vote for a man that had her beliefs. It's insulting that they are trying to attract Hillary's women JUST BECAUSE SHE'S FEMALE. That's the part I'm angry about.
I'd much rather vote for Hillary because I liked her as a candidate.
You seem unwilling to consider that there were other factors involved in their choice. She may or may not be attractive to a few Hillary supporters. But she will likely be attractive to the conservative wing of the party that still doesn't completely embrace McCain. She brings some of the evangelicals in with her pro-life position. She brings the 2nd ammendment crowd in, who generally distrust McCain. She brings conservative women to the table. Why you are so fixated on the Hillary aspect is baffling.
I hear what people are saying about how he was going for the 'hilary vote' but honestly I think he was trying to be more 'flashy,' like 'oh Obama made history last night, I'm going to make history today,'
it's historical that she is the first female GOP VP candidate. That's what I was thinking when I saw it.
I support women in general being in high level positions such as she is, I find that to be impressive, but I don't agree with any of her beliefs.
"Sometimes life should be consumed in measured doses"
6-01-06
6/25/08
Free Speedy
and Metsy!
I'm not unwilling to consider the other factors, I'm just having an emotional reaction to what I believe was his main motivation in choosing her rather than the many other people he could have chosen.
There's no way McCain is going to win solely with that base (as there is no way Obama will win with the traditional Democratic base, although he has a much better shot with the large injection of previously unregistered voters. Obama has done well with independents, as had McCain in previous campaigns, and McCain needs to get those if he wants the election. Will Palin bring in independents? Maybe. We'll see.
I completely agree with you. I wasn't trying to suggest that the selection of Palin locks up the election for McCain, I just think it shores up a big chunk of the party that he was unable to capture. Since he has throw the conservative wing of the party a bone, I agree with you that he now needs to focus his efforts on the independents. He has spent too much time the last few years right up W's ass. It is time for him to extract himself, get cleaned up, and reintroduce himself to the independents he seems to have abandoned.
Yes...shallow and pedantic