Five U.S. troops killed in Iraq

inmytree

PaperPlates wrote:

and your flippant attitude towards dealing with terrorist nations who want nothing but to harm the US, makes me sick. Deal with it. Soldiers arent less than human, where did I say that?

my flippant attitude...ha, now your making things up...typical :rolleyes:

as for saying Soldiers are less that human, perhaps if you read your post, perhaps you'd see my point, but I doubt it...let's revisited it...

you wrote:

Some of us don't cringe at the number of US casualties, because we know thats a soldiers job. Soldiers arent peace keepers. Their job is to kill, and/or die, doing the JOB they get paid to do.

you don't cringe...to me that means "you don't care"...if I'm wrong, please correct me...but in reading the above quote, I don't see any other way of interpreting your intent...

PaperPlates

inmytree wrote:

my flippant attitude...ha, now your making things up...typical :rolleyes:

as for saying Soldiers are less that human, perhaps if you read your post, perhaps you'd see my point, but I doubt it...let's revisited it...



you don't cringe...to me that means "you don't care"...if I'm wrong, please correct me...but in reading the above quote, I don't see any other way of interpreting your intent...

cringe is one word
care is a totally different word.
If english is your second language, I forgive you.
If not, maybe you're simply no better than me,
and simply haven't learned that yet.

Abuskedti

PaperPlates wrote:

cringe is one word
care is a totally different word.
If english is your second language, I forgive you.
If not, maybe you're simply no better than me,
and simply haven't learned that yet.

A soldiers job is to fight and die.. just as a firefighter's job is to fight and die...

So you don't cringe when a firefighter runs into a dangerous situation to save someone and dies...

and the president set the entire nation of Iraq on fire necessitating all the volunteer firefighters to leave their homes and put the fire out causing the deahts of 2800 fireman, but hey - thats no tragedy - afterall they volunteered to be fireman - and its their job to die.

hippiemom

Abuskedti wrote:

A soldiers job is to fight and die.. just as a firefighter's job is to fight and die...

So you don't cringe when a firefighter runs into a dangerous situation to save someone and dies...

and the president set the entire nation of Iraq on fire necessitating all the volunteer firefighters to leave their homes and put the fire out causing the deahts of 2800 fireman, but hey - thats no tragedy - afterall they volunteered to be fireman - and its their job to die.

They're just cannon fodder, Abu. I don't know why you get yourself all worked up. It's almost like you think they're real people or something.

rebornFixer

hippiemom wrote:

They're just cannon fodder, Abu. I don't know why you get yourself all worked up. It's almost like you think they're real people or something.

But sometimes his posts give just the opposite impression ... He attributes no personal responsibility to anyone in this conflict except Americans.

Abuskedti

reborncareerist wrote:

But sometimes his posts give just the opposite impression ... He attributes no personal responsibility to anyone in this conflict except Americans.

Ok, I admit.. Iraq was not prepared bombed like that and are not taking it very well.

ThumbingMyWay32

jlew24asu wrote:

soliders are well aware that they might go to war and be put in harms way.

So wait... You're suggesting soldiers are forced to volunteer?

jlew24asu

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

So wait... You're suggesting soldiers are forced to volunteer?

fuck no. what makes u think that? they are well aware war is a possiblity when they join the army or marines or special forces. they are trained for combat.

when they are called up to go to war, are they thinking, fuck i didnt join the army for this.

ThumbingMyWay32

jlew24asu wrote:

fuck no. what makes u think that? they are well aware war is a possiblity when they join the army or marines or special forces. they are trained for combat.

when they are called up to go to war, are they thinking, fuck i didnt join the army for this.

Truthmonger

jlew24asu wrote:

fuck no. what makes u think that? they are well aware war is a possiblity when they join the army or marines or special forces. they are trained for combat.

when they are called up to go to war, are they thinking, fuck i didnt join the army for this.

I think American soldiers are coming to the realization that they are dying for a pack of lies. What do Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld etc give a fuck about lying for ? - its not THEIR lives that are going to be sacrificed. Thats what the letter from Pat Tillman's brother was all about - lies. Thats what these 200 + American GI's are talking about - lies. Iraq was a lie. When they went to the recruitment offices and signed up, they should have been told: "hey, by the way, you might have to fight and die for totally bogus reasons. You OK with that ?"

ThumbingMyWay32

Truthmonger wrote:

I think American soldiers are coming to the realization that they are dying for a pack of lies. What do Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld etc give a fuck about lying for ? - its not THEIR lives that are going to be sacrificed. Thats what the letter from Pat Tillman's brother was all about - lies. Thats what these 200 + American GI's are talking about - lies. Iraq was a lie. When they went to the recruitment offices and signed up, they should have been told: "hey, by the way, you might have to fight and die for totally bogus reasons. You OK with that ?"

Is that what you think? Is 200 > 140,000?

jlew24asu

Truthmonger wrote:

I think American soldiers are coming to the realization that they are dying for a pack of lies. What do Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld etc give a fuck about lying for ? - its not THEIR lives that are going to be sacrificed. Thats what the letter from Pat Tillman's brother was all about - lies. Thats what these 200 + American GI's are talking about - lies. Iraq was a lie. When they went to the recruitment offices and signed up, they should have been told: "hey, by the way, you might have to fight and die for totally bogus reasons. You OK with that ?"

just because you believe its all totally bogus reasons, doesnt mean the military does. yes there were no WMDs but you cant cut and run because that happened. el qeda moved in, country deterierated into civil war, we couldnt leave. i believe after 5 years, we have given iraq enough time to begin setting goals and sticking to them and have a gradual pullout.

many soliders think they are doing the greater good in Iraq. some soliders tell stories of iraqis thanking them, and the success stories of building schools and hospitals. the news reports alot of bad things, close to no good news even though it happens.

josevolution

jlew24asu wrote:

stop using that bullshit number.

why do you say that # is bullshit ?

ThumbingMyWay32

I wonder if our estimates of a million dead soldiers was correct dealing with the invasion of the Japanese mainland?

We'll never know because we nuked'em.

Any thoughts about that itelligence and the pre-emptive actions taken?

Just think, we could've nuked Iraq and saved 3,000 American soldiers lives...

But then we'd just have to hear your crap about civilian deaths, as if we weren't anyway.

Arguing with liberals is like arguing with candy corn.

jlew24asu

josevolution wrote:

why do you say that # is bullshit ?

im not explaining it again. go read my posts about it

ThumbingMyWay32

I wonder if our estimates of a million dead soldiers was correct dealing with the invasion of the Japanese mainland?

We'll never know because we nuked'em.

Any thoughts about that itelligence and the pre-emptive actions taken?

Just think, we could've nuked Iraq and saved 3,000 American soldiers lives...

But then we'd just have to hear your crap about civilian deaths, as if we weren't anyway.

Arguing with liberals is like arguing with candy corn.....

Now I'm going to have to hear about how I don't care about civilians... Spin the wheels kiddos.

Abookamongstthemany

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

I wonder if our estimates of a million dead soldiers was correct dealing with the invasion of the Japanese mainland?

We'll never know because we nuked'em.

Any thoughts about that itelligence and the pre-emptive actions taken?

Just think, we could've nuked Iraq and saved 3,000 American soldiers lives...

But then we'd just have to hear your crap about civilian deaths, as if we weren't anyway.

Arguing with liberals is like arguing with candy corn.....

Now I'm going to have to hear about how I don't care about civilians... Spin the wheels kiddos.

Or how about leave them the fuck alone

ThumbingMyWay32

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

Or how about leave them the fuck alone

Oh brilliant. A perfect example of why candy corn couldn't have said it better.

jlew24asu

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

Oh brilliant. A perfect example of why candy corn couldn't have said it better.

candy corn. thats funny. my tummy hurts from that. i ate alot of that at work today.

ThumbingMyWay32

jlew24asu wrote:

candy corn. thats funny. my tummy hurts from that. i ate alot of that at work today.

For some reason, and I'm not sure why, I always eat candy corn if it's accessible.