No, it hasn't, oh "smart one". USA Today reported that it's in the 2,750 mark, and a neighbor of mine has been using his acreage to plant yellow flags for each U.S. soldier that has dies over there. And, he posts the number, changing it as the death toll increases.
ah ah ah ...well soldiers that sign up know there's a chance to die in war...so they knew what they were up against when they sign up....hmmmmm...yea well that would be fine and good...till they were sent to fight a war that was a waste...a lie....remember weapons of mass destruction? remember imminent threat? remember Al Quaida in Iraq? remember nuclur weapons capabilities? remember???? so I'm cool with soldiers being sent to protect our country..but thats not what they're being sacrificed for. There was a great post on page one that said Georgy and co didn't know it would turn out like this....and I regretfully agree...but they are ultimately responsible (and all those that voted for him the second time, I'll give you the first..you didn't know better) and should pay the price. This will go down as the biggest fked up policy in US history.
ah ah ah...but the soldiers knew what they were in for...sad.
no I used common sense to know that soliders are aware of the possibility of going to war and dying.
fair enough, but allow me to take it a step farther...a person signing up would practice good "common sense" in believing they would be be given the best possible equipment to keep them safe...and that there leaders would not incite the ememy with statements like "bring 'em on"....
fair enough, but allow me to take it a step farther...a person signing up would practice good "common sense" in believing they would be be given the best possible equipment to keep them safe...and that there leaders would not incite the ememy with statements like "bring 'em on"....
Yeah, because their whole beef with us is all caused by "bring it on". If only GW hadn't said "bring em on", they would have given up and lived peaceful lives.
Yeah, because their whole beef with us is all caused by "bring it on". If only GW hadn't said "bring em on", they would have given up and lived peaceful lives.
nice use of absolutes...anyway, perhaps you're right, I forgot the hate our "freedom" and "our way of life"....
nice use of absolutes...anyway, perhaps you're right, I forgot the hate our "freedom" and "our way of life"....
Like I'm the only one around here who deals in "absolutes". Every argument made here on your side of the equation starts and begins in unrealistic 'absolutes'.
Like I'm the only one around here who deals in "absolutes". Every argument made here on your side of the equation starts and begins in unrealistic 'absolutes'.
every argument, huh...? if you say so...
they still hate us for our "freedom", right...and if "they are not with us, they are against us"....right...we can't "cut and run", right...
they still hate us for our "freedom", right...and if "they are not with us, they are against us"....right...we can't "cut and run", right...
So these WORDS are the cause of their insane desire to blow themselves up? These WORDS uttered by a president AFTER they knocked down the twin towers caused their anger? Where's your disgust for THEM? Or does hating the US and its administration take up too much of your energy to have any left for them?
Perhaps not every arguement, but for you to call me out for using "absolutes" around here is laughable, to say the least.
So these WORDS are the cause of their insane desire to blow themselves up? These WORDS uttered by a president AFTER they knocked down the twin towers caused their anger? Where's your disgust for THEM? Or does hating the US and its administration take up too much of your energy to have any left for them?
Perhaps not every arguement, but for you to call me out for using "absolutes" around here is laughable, to say the least.
some of us do have disgust for those that blew up the towers..unfortunately they weren't in Iraq...and they didn't represent all Muslims...but Bush boy used this rhetoric to get the good Ole American "Patriots" roused up. Hell we actually had support from more Muslims Sept 12th than in a long time...course "bring it on" and "your with us or against us" and going into Iraq pissed that opportunity away....
So these WORDS are the cause of their insane desire to blow themselves up? These WORDS uttered by a president AFTER they knocked down the twin towers caused their anger? Where's your disgust for THEM? Or does hating the US and its administration take up too much of your energy to have any left for them?
holy absolutes, batman!!!! :eek:
allow me to let you in on a little secret...just because a person speaks out against bush and his warmongering policies, does not mean that same person is "with" the terrorists, insurgents, or enemy...I know it's a big concept...take your time, think it over....you may understand someday...
allow me to let you in on a little secret...just because a person speaks out against bush and his warmongering policies, does not mean that same person is "with" the terrorists, insurgents, or enemy...I know it's a big concept...take your time, think it over....you may understand someday...
don't care....
Let me let you in on a little secret, not everyone who approves of the wars the US chooses to take on is a war mongerer. SOME Of us simply see it as better to fight there, than in boston. Either way, despite what any of you think, we are at war. Not just in Iraq, but against a idealogy. This is a war of idealogies, and no matter how much you try diplomacy, you cant reason with madmen, and those who are hell bent on war aren't going to be talked out of it.
Some of us don't cringe at the number of US casualties, because we know thats a soldiers job. Soldiers arent peace keepers. Their job is to kill, and/or die, doing the JOB they get paid to do.
Let me let you in on a little secret, not everyone who approves of the wars the US chooses to take on is a war mongerer. SOME Of us simply see it as better to fight there, than in boston. Either way, despite what any of you think, we are at war. Not just in Iraq, but against a idealogy. This is a war of idealogies, and no matter how much you try diplomacy, you cant reason with madmen, and those who are hell bent on war aren't going to be talked out of it.
Some of us don't cringe at the number of US casualties, because we know thats a soldiers job. Soldiers arent peace keepers. Their job is to kill, and/or die, doing the JOB they get paid to do.
where did I say you were a warmonger...? please re-read my post...
anyway, the rest of your post is sad...it's sad to me that you see life as expendable...you talk as if soliders are less than human...
to be honest, you flippent attitude toward soldiers kinda makes me sick...
where did I say you were a warmonger...? please re-read my post...
anyway, the rest of your post is sad...it's sad to me that you see life as expendable...you talk as if soliders are less than human...
to be honest, you flippent attitude toward soldiers kinda makes me sick...
and your flippant attitude towards dealing with terrorist nations who want nothing but to harm the US, makes me sick. Deal with it. Soldiers arent less than human, where did I say that?
who said it was ok? its not ok. but why lie about it. why say a number that is not correct just to make it seem alot worse then it is.
its like saying 4 million people died on 9/11. actually no, it was more like 3000. there is a difference
Who is lying, you claiming to have knowledge on Iraqi civilian deaths or a team of epidemiologists from John Hopkins published in a respected medical journal?
Who is lying, you claiming to have knowledge on Iraqi civilian deaths or a team of epidemiologists from John Hopkins published in a respected medical journal?
find one other "respected person" who will agree with that number. All of them say its greatly exaggerated. the report itself says its not based on a body count. I guess they just assumed alot more are dead.
no other report puts the estimated dead at over 50-60 thousand.
does that make it right? fuck no. see my previous post for an example on why.
find one other "respected person" who will agree with that number. All of them say its greatly exaggerated. the report itself says its not based on a body count. I guess they just assumed alot more are dead.
no other report puts the estimated dead at over 50-60 thousand.
does that make it right? fuck no. see my previous post for an example on why.
all those reports are on specific groups - a clever way of keeping the number low in the mind of the willing
ROTFL -- the Alabama department of homeland security has a picture of a terrorist training camp??? That is SO FUNNY!!!
I've said it before, and I'll say it again -- the people most afraid of terrorism live in places where it's least likely to occur.
"Things will just get better and better even though it
doesn't feel that way right now. That's the hopeful
idea . . . Hope didn't get much applause . . .
Hope! Hope is the underdog!"
He probably knows because that is one of the risks that a soldier takes when they sign up for the army, being sent to war or war affected area is always a possibility and arguably a probability.
It saddens me greatly to hear of soldiers dying; a guy i used to play in the same football team with died last week in Afghanistan. I was very upset to hear of is death, but he knew that this was always a possibility when he joined up. Its a shitty war, as are all wars, but i still agree with military action in Afghanistan and Iraq.
People say im paranoid. Well, they dont say it, but i know that's what they are thinking.
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my mistake, it surpassed the number of dead from new york, not 9/11 as a whole, your right. I apologize
ah ah ah...but the soldiers knew what they were in for...sad.
sad but true
exactly...it is true that its sad people try to justify their position with this agrument.
Definately some sort of dimented reality he lives, if he thinks there's still a chance of that!!
fair enough, but allow me to take it a step farther...a person signing up would practice good "common sense" in believing they would be be given the best possible equipment to keep them safe...and that there leaders would not incite the ememy with statements like "bring 'em on"....
Yeah, because their whole beef with us is all caused by "bring it on". If only GW hadn't said "bring em on", they would have given up and lived peaceful lives.
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nice use of absolutes...anyway, perhaps you're right, I forgot the hate our "freedom" and "our way of life"....
Like I'm the only one around here who deals in "absolutes". Every argument made here on your side of the equation starts and begins in unrealistic 'absolutes'.
www.myspace.com/jensvad
every argument, huh...? if you say so...
they still hate us for our "freedom", right...and if "they are not with us, they are against us"....right...we can't "cut and run", right...
So these WORDS are the cause of their insane desire to blow themselves up? These WORDS uttered by a president AFTER they knocked down the twin towers caused their anger? Where's your disgust for THEM? Or does hating the US and its administration take up too much of your energy to have any left for them?
Perhaps not every arguement, but for you to call me out for using "absolutes" around here is laughable, to say the least.
www.myspace.com/jensvad
holy absolutes, batman!!!! :eek:
allow me to let you in on a little secret...just because a person speaks out against bush and his warmongering policies, does not mean that same person is "with" the terrorists, insurgents, or enemy...I know it's a big concept...take your time, think it over....you may understand someday...
don't care....
Let me let you in on a little secret, not everyone who approves of the wars the US chooses to take on is a war mongerer. SOME Of us simply see it as better to fight there, than in boston. Either way, despite what any of you think, we are at war. Not just in Iraq, but against a idealogy. This is a war of idealogies, and no matter how much you try diplomacy, you cant reason with madmen, and those who are hell bent on war aren't going to be talked out of it.
Some of us don't cringe at the number of US casualties, because we know thats a soldiers job. Soldiers arent peace keepers. Their job is to kill, and/or die, doing the JOB they get paid to do.
www.myspace.com/jensvad
where did I say you were a warmonger...? please re-read my post...
anyway, the rest of your post is sad...it's sad to me that you see life as expendable...you talk as if soliders are less than human...
to be honest, you flippent attitude toward soldiers kinda makes me sick...
How high does the body count have to go to qualify as a problem?
who said it was ok? its not ok. but why lie about it. why say a number that is not correct just to make it seem alot worse then it is.
its like saying 4 million people died on 9/11. actually no, it was more like 3000. there is a difference
and your flippant attitude towards dealing with terrorist nations who want nothing but to harm the US, makes me sick. Deal with it. Soldiers arent less than human, where did I say that?
www.myspace.com/jensvad
Who is lying, you claiming to have knowledge on Iraqi civilian deaths or a team of epidemiologists from John Hopkins published in a respected medical journal?
find one other "respected person" who will agree with that number. All of them say its greatly exaggerated. the report itself says its not based on a body count. I guess they just assumed alot more are dead.
no other report puts the estimated dead at over 50-60 thousand.
does that make it right? fuck no. see my previous post for an example on why.
all those reports are on specific groups - a clever way of keeping the number low in the mind of the willing
they call that specific group civillians. what other group am I missing? terrorists? no need to count them
no - not if you're willing to kill 650,000 people simply by calling them terrorists.
The effort is obviously working.
would be nice to kill 600,000 terrorists. then maybe Islam can get back to being a peaceful religion.
by our methods we'll get millions easily..
In America it takes us months or years to find a single serial killer.
In Iraq we use the following method
Bang! Dead, must have been a terrorist 1
Band! Dead, must have been a terrorist 2
.......
most of the terrorists on the battle field carry a large bullseye, single serial killers are much more smart about not getting caught. i.e. osama
A bullseye? Like the Jews did in Germany? What does it look like?
http://www.homelandsecurity.alabama.gov/tap/Al%20Qaeda%20compressed%20guns%20raised.jpg
I've said it before, and I'll say it again -- the people most afraid of terrorism live in places where it's least likely to occur.
doesn't feel that way right now. That's the hopeful
idea . . . Hope didn't get much applause . . .
Hope! Hope is the underdog!"
-- EV, Live at the Showbox
He probably knows because that is one of the risks that a soldier takes when they sign up for the army, being sent to war or war affected area is always a possibility and arguably a probability.
It saddens me greatly to hear of soldiers dying; a guy i used to play in the same football team with died last week in Afghanistan. I was very upset to hear of is death, but he knew that this was always a possibility when he joined up. Its a shitty war, as are all wars, but i still agree with military action in Afghanistan and Iraq.