No need to be edgy. I just don't believe Iraq is the horrorshow you believe it is. We have differing opinions.
I didn't really mean it to be edgy. It hadn't occured to me that people can see what is Iraq and think its not that bad. I don't how that can be possible without making some sweeping judgements about all those that have suffered or died.
But this is not one country realisation, it's the proof that when talking about international problems, uni lateralism is bad (see Iraq) and multi lateralism is the solution.
I was happy to hear this news, and just hope it keep going in this direction.
"L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
It is good news, if he doesn't change his mind in a month or so.
And the title is wrong, it should have been "kudos to diplomatic talks". It's always a good thing when the state of the world is a little less chaotic. Even if we don't have all the proof NK will become nuclear free. At least it leaves room for hope and appeasement in the region, and that always helps for future talks and demands.
question- if this proves that negotiations are more effective than the use of force, then why did north korea turn around and shit all over the deal clinton made with them in '94?
and if clinton had gone to war then, as he hinted he would, which was before n. korea had nukes, would this crisis ever have gotten to where it got?
and if sanctions DID help us to reach this point with north korea, why are russia and china and france all opposed to slapping the same REAL sanctions on iran?
some people think only that US's foreign policy is unprincipled and driven by greed. i've just named several others who are worse.
question- if this proves that negotiations are more effective than the use of force, then why did north korea turn around and shit all over the deal clinton made with them in '94?
and if clinton had gone to war then, as he hinted he would, which was before n. korea had nukes, would this crisis ever have gotten to where it got?
and if sanctions DID help us to reach this point with north korea, why are russia and china and france all opposed to slapping the same REAL sanctions on iran?
some people think only that US's foreign policy is unprincipled and driven by greed. i've just named several others who are worse.
question: are you saying going to war is a better option...?
question: are you saying going to war is a better option...?
hindsight is 20/20. unfortunately we're not out of the woods yet. after the new optimism generated by this new agreement, there's no telling whether or not n. korea will actually abide by it or if it will renege on its obligations as they did in '94.
and if that's the case, and this all goes to shit, and n. korea continues to export fissile material or maybe even an entire warhead to places like iran, then going to war in '94 would have been the right course.
hindsight is 20/20. unfortunately we're not out of the woods yet. after the new optimism generated by this new agreement, there's no telling whether or not n. korea will actually abide by it or if it will renege on its obligations as they did in '94.
and if that's the case, and this all goes to shit, and n. korea continues to export fissile material or maybe even an entire warhead to places like iran, then going to war in '94 would have been the right course.
its a dead deal. US conservatives already up in arms (no pun intended) and North Korea has to do more than sign a piece of paper. they actually have to agree to inspections. actions speak louder than words. well be back to bickering in 3-4 months time. all that time talking allowed Kim Jong Psycho to build his bomb. Happy now?
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lol Fair enough.
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Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
I didn't really mean it to be edgy. It hadn't occured to me that people can see what is Iraq and think its not that bad. I don't how that can be possible without making some sweeping judgements about all those that have suffered or died.
going to canada...
big deal
china stills loans money for the war and china violates human rights and usa doesnt care and we buy the junk from china
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Was September 11th a horrorshow?
How do you picture Iraq then?
But this is not one country realisation, it's the proof that when talking about international problems, uni lateralism is bad (see Iraq) and multi lateralism is the solution.
I was happy to hear this news, and just hope it keep going in this direction.
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
And the title is wrong, it should have been "kudos to diplomatic talks". It's always a good thing when the state of the world is a little less chaotic. Even if we don't have all the proof NK will become nuclear free. At least it leaves room for hope and appeasement in the region, and that always helps for future talks and demands.
and if clinton had gone to war then, as he hinted he would, which was before n. korea had nukes, would this crisis ever have gotten to where it got?
and if sanctions DID help us to reach this point with north korea, why are russia and china and france all opposed to slapping the same REAL sanctions on iran?
some people think only that US's foreign policy is unprincipled and driven by greed. i've just named several others who are worse.
Most antizionists are antisemites
question: are you saying going to war is a better option...?
hindsight is 20/20. unfortunately we're not out of the woods yet. after the new optimism generated by this new agreement, there's no telling whether or not n. korea will actually abide by it or if it will renege on its obligations as they did in '94.
and if that's the case, and this all goes to shit, and n. korea continues to export fissile material or maybe even an entire warhead to places like iran, then going to war in '94 would have been the right course.
Most antizionists are antisemites