Kudos to the US: N. Korea agrees to nuclear disarmament deal

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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I hope they stay peaceful as i'm gonna be living in South Korea from next month. If the North decide to invade they'll have me to deal with! :cool:

    Lil Kim doesn't wanna deal with Byrnzie. ;)
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    Well look at that. I am amazed at what talks and not bombs can do. Good on all the countries that participated, and hammered a deal out. Until NK runs this new chapter of money into the ground and pipe up with somemore outrageous demands. Didn't Clinton appease them not too long ago. Of course with money and not bombs, but how long can the cycle continue. Again, good that there were no shots fired.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,431
    i hope this works out. diplomacy can be a headache at times, but with results like these i think it is well worth it.
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  • macgyver06 wrote:
    Curious of your opinions everyone. Do you think Korea will stay peaceful?
    Also think any more countries will pursue the Nuclear lifestyle in search of a billion dollar aid deal?


    I'm doubtful. Almost a year ago or maybe its been a year, a deal like this was made and a few days later it was broken when the North Koreans decided not to go through with it.

    What about the weapons that they might already have made? I didn't read anything about them handing those over.

    Hopefully this works out, but I don't feel too likely that it will.
  • bee_boy
    bee_boy Posts: 384
    i hope this works out. diplomacy can be a headache at times, but with results like these i think it is well worth it.

    I think it's more like a sleeping pill... dearest diplomacy.
  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Collin wrote:
    Well, it's not the just the US, right? Kudos to all of them.

    I still think it's hypocritical, though.

    Its not hypocritical..you just hate america.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    surferdude wrote:
    I could almost gaurantee you that when temperatures were rising surrounding nukes and North Korea that people on this board weren't distributing the blame.

    Look at your response. It's like you are incapable of admitting that the US did something good/great for the world. Do you hate the US that much that you willfully will not see the good?

    Regarding your first paragraph, i don't understand it. 'People on this board weren't distributing the blame'? Distributing what blame? And against who should blame have been distributed?

    Regarding your second paragraph, a group of countries, some of which have more influence on Korea than America - i.e, Japan - got together and negotiated with North Korea to accept a deal whereby it would gain a quantity of fuel in return for shutting down one of it's reactors. This is a good move, but it will do nothing to reduce the quantity of nuclear arms in the world. North Korea will never completely disarm because it's leaders aren't suicidal. This is a token gesture to attempt to restore some semblance of harmony in that region. The fact is that this deal probably benefits Japan more than it benefits the U.S.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    macgyver06 wrote:
    BLAME CANADA!! :)

    Dudes, we already have nuclear power, we are supplying most of the eastern seaboard.

    Eh, we don't need your money either. Although, it would be nice if you'd actually pay what our resources are worth.
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    I'm wondering... where are all the 'Anti-Appeasement' voices in all of this? I recall that when discussion of talks with North Korea came up in the past... several people here called them 'Appeasement Talks' and likened them to Prime Minister Chamberlain's appeasement agreement with Hitler.
    Where are those people and how do they feel about these negotiations?
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  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    Byrnzie wrote:
    The fact is that this deal probably benefits Japan more than it benefits the U.S.
    Then additional kudos to the US for not being self-serving and thinking of the world first. Thanks for bringing that up.
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    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    surferdude wrote:
    Then additional kudos to the US for not being self-serving and thinking of the world first. Thanks for bringing that up.

    I admit that this is a positive step forward. But there is still a lot more work to do on all sides to reduce nuclear arms in the world as a whole. At the moment their is a proliferation of nuclear arms in the world, not a reduction. Still, this is a step in the right direction.
  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I admit that this is a positive step forward. But there is still a lot more work to do on all sides to reduce nuclear arms in the world as a whole. At the moment their is a proliferation of nuclear arms in the world, not a reduction. Still, this is a step in the right direction.
    C'mon, you can say it, "The US did good. I'm proud of America and proud to be an American."
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    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    surferdude wrote:
    C'mon, you can say it, "The US did good. I'm proud of America and proud to be an American."
    damn you almost had him. he's not american though.
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    jlew24asu wrote:
    damn you almost had him. he's not american though.
    :) So close and yet so far away!
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    surferdude wrote:
    C'mon, you can say it, "The US did good. I'm proud of America and proud to be an American."

    You thought i was American? :confused: Weird!
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Byrnzie wrote:
    You thought i was American? :confused: Weird!
    Somewhat like those crazy Americans El Kabong and Abookamongstthemany. ;)
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  • down_ski
    down_ski Posts: 328
    jlew24asu wrote:
    yes kudos to japan, china, russia, and south korea.

    You've got to be kidding, Russia? You know Russia could care less if N. Korea had nukes. Putin is a joke.

    Kudos to Japan, China, South Korea AND the US.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    down_ski wrote:
    Kudos to Japan, China, South Korea AND the US.

    You forgot Russia.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    down_ski wrote:
    You've got to be kidding, Russia? You know Russia could care less if N. Korea had nukes. Putin is a joke.

    Kudos to Japan, China, South Korea AND the US.
    i'm not fan of putin. but russia was involved in these talks. to what extent I dont know. they certainly werent pushing for NK to have a nuke.
  • surferdude wrote:
    C'mon, you can say it, "The US did good. I'm proud of America and proud to be an American."

    Or how about I'm proud to be an Earthling who doesn't support nuclear weapons for anyone anywhere.
    ;)
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