I am 44 and could not agree more w/Outlaw & Pearljam1212 US has been spouting off forever about the great arms Hamas is recieving from Iran. Really? Where are they. The rockets are little more than what one could build from a boy scout handbook.
I pray for the day that any association w/ Jewish Lobbies DOOMS a candidate.
the US has been spouting that Iran funds Hezbollah. yet another peace loving Islamic group. its the Palestinians who accuse Iran of funding Hamas
Palestinian intelligence chief accuses Iran of training, funding Hamas militants
but this is besides the point. The point is that Hamas does in fact fire rockets into Israel.... doesnt matter if they are Iranian made, firecrackers, or the piece of shit homemade rockets they use. all it does is give Israel a reason to smack them the fuck down.
Palestinian intelligence chief accuses Iran of training, funding Hamas militants
It's not the Palestinians, it's Fath.
but this is besides the point. The point is that Hamas does in fact fire rockets into Israel.... doesnt matter if they are Iranian made, firecrackers, or the piece of shit homemade rockets they use. all it does is give Israel a reason to smack them the fuck down.
Israel has been "smacking them the fuck down" for decades, before rockets even existed. Israel is not retaliating, Israel is oppressing and occupying.
How can the occupier also be the one who retaliates?
Israel has been "smacking them the fuck down" for decades, before rockets even existed. Israel is not retaliating, Israel is oppressing and occupying.
How can the occupier also be the one who retaliates?
do you read all the reports that come out from here? the majority of the time, Israel will respond with a HEAVY fist everytime time worthless homemade rockets are fired at them from Gaza. stop the rockets, you give Israel one less reason to smacking the fuck out of them.
oh? intelligence chief, Tawfiq Tirawi, is not Palestinian?
if you want to edit your post you can say "A Palestinian claims...", but to say "Palestinians" is wrong.
do you read all the reports that come out from here? the majority of the time, Israel will respond with a HEAVY fist everytime time worthless homemade rockets are fired at them from Gaza. stop the rockets, you give Israel one less reason to smacking the fuck out of them.
what is 'here'?
And, like I said, the way you keep saying "Israel responds" is false. I like how you avoided my question so I'm going to ask it again: How can the occupier be the one who retaliates?
Here's a suggestion: Tell Israel to stop occupying them, and the Palestinians will have one less reason to firing rockets.
And, like I said, the way you keep saying "Israel responds" is false. I like how you avoided my question so I'm going to ask it again: How can the occupier be the one who retaliates?
Here's a suggestion: Tell Israel to stop occupying them, and the Palestinians will have one less reason to firing rockets.
I like my suggestion better, since it's logical.
the rockets are being fired from gaza into Israel. sure, I like your point of view as well. Israel should stop occupying lands. but if I were a Hamas militant and I had a choice between eating or firing a almost worthless rocket, I would choose eating.
you are suggesting its ok for them to fire rockets since Israel is occupying. I see your point but strongly disagree.
the rockets are being fired from gaza into Israel. sure, I like your point of view as well. Israel should stop occupying lands. but if I were a Hamas militant and I had a choice between eating or firing a almost worthless rocket, I would choose eating.
The siege took place long before rockets were fired. That's the point.
you are suggesting its ok for them to fire rockets since Israel is occupying. I see your point but strongly disagree.
No, but it's understandable to see people retaliating to an occupation. Especially when you consider how badly Gaza is being held under siege. The entire world condemns what Israel is doing, yet you seem to be wanting to place the blame on the Palestinians.
Foreign Ministers of Arab League met Saturday and released a statement that Jordan and Egypt were opening crossings for medical aid, humanitarian aid. hospital transfers etc.
I don't know for Jordan but Egypt can't even take care of it's own people. This aid should the role of NGO's, the UN and western countries unblocked, ideally.
There is broad and support from regional govt's and are angry that US did not send high level representative to Doha meetings that is to set forth reforms of world financial policies that cripple developing states. This process began several years ago, prior to melt down. It may appear that US is only interesred in showing up for bailouts/handouts yet unwilling to reform status quo.It was fairly disrespectful anyway.
Doha is another question altogether. And the subjects are far wider than help to developping states.
"Two weeks ago the Israelis issued for the first time a written list of goods that cannot be sent into Gaza for UN humanitarian needs, she said. The list includes spices, kitchenware, glassware, yarn and paper."
Holy shit...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
"And the Germans kill the Jews,
And the Jews kill the Arabs
And the Arabs kill the hostages
And that is the news
And is it any wonder that the monkey's confused?"
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To break down borders and realise that we are one species and then the true patriotism comes from pride and love of the human race, not from the tribes of which we currently are divided, open your eyes your mind will see! - ME
Dozens Hurt in Clash between Hebron Settlers, Palestinians
Israeli settlers and Palestinians hurled stones at each other Tuesday near a disputed home in the West Bank city of Hebron, injuring two dozen people, including a Jewish teenager with a serious head wound, medics and Israeli officials said. Seventeen Israelis and Palestinians were arrested, police said.
The clash was the worst outbreak of violence in the dispute over ownership of a four-story building where settlers have defied an Israeli Supreme Court order to vacate. On Monday, hundreds of right-wing Israelis rushed to the house following rumors that eviction was imminent.
Hebron, holy to Jews and Muslims, is one of the most volatile flashpoints in the West Bank. Some 500 hard-line Jewish settlers live in guarded enclaves amid some 170,000 Palestinians in the city, and the sides frequently clash.
Israeli security forces did not intervene Monday as hundreds of settlers threw stones at Palestinian cars and nearby houses, defaced a Muslim cemetery and damaged Palestinian property in several other areas of the West Bank.
Fighting started up again Tuesday, with settlers, some of them masked, throwing rocks at Palestinian houses.
In one incident, young settlers battered at the door of a Palestinian house with a wooden pole, and residents rushed to the roof to throw rocks at the group below. A 16-year-old Israeli was hit in the head in this confrontation, witnesses said. Hospital officials described his injuries as serious.
A total of 18 Israelis were injured, Israeli medics said. Their Palestinian counterparts reported seven Palestinians hurt by stones.
Late Tuesday, the military declared the Palestinian section of Hebron off limits to Israelis.
An Israeli airstrike killed two Palestinians in southern Gaza on Tuesday, dealing a new blow to efforts to restore a cease-fire. The army said it attacked militants who fired mortar shells at Israeli troops. Palestinian medical officials said the dead were civilians, boys ages 16 and 17.
I don't know for Jordan but Egypt can't even take care of it's own people. This aid should the role of NGO's, the UN and western countries unblocked, ideally.
Doha is another question altogether. And the subjects are far wider than help to developping states.
I had hoped after reading that press release that Egypt might open it's border and let UN/NGO aid in. I forgot how disgustingly pro west the younger Mubarak is.
Doha conference: yes it was about alot, Bretton Woods etc but why didn't we show up?
Israeli Navy bars ship sent by Arab leaders and leftist activists from sailing to Gaza
By Saed Bannoura
The Israeli navy barred on Sunday morning a ship which was supposed to sail from Jaffa port to the Gaza Strip carrying medical and humanitarian supplies.
The ship was organized by Arab leaders and leftist activists in Israel.
The ship, was dubbed “the Eid Ship”, as the Muslims will be marking the Adha Eid (feast) on Monday. The Israeli navy took the ship to the Tel Aviv port.
The Israeli police said that the ship carried medical equipment and medicine, and that three activists were detained.
The ship had on board seven tons of humanitarian and medical aid, food and toys for children.
The Israeli police also detained and interrogated three activists from northern Israel after they arrived in Jaffa with a truck filled with equipment to ship to Gaza.
Arab members of the Knesset (MK), Jamal Zahalka and Wasel Taha, said that barring the ship from sailing to the improvised and hungry Gaza Strip “is an act against humanity”, and added that “we will make our strongest efforts to send aid ships to the Gaza Strip from different parts of the world.
Arab member of the Knesset, Mohammad Barakeh, said that “it seems that Israel is giving the settlers a free hand in Hebron while besieging more than 1.5 million Palestinians in the Gaza Strip”.
He added that the ship was a symbolic and humanitarian act carried out by Arabs and Jews, “but it seems that the Israeli authorities insist to show their true ugly colors”, he added.
On Sunday morning at approximately 9:30, Arab leaders in Israel held a press conference condemning the Israeli violation. Barakeh, Arab MK Jamal Zahalka, Sheikh Raed Salah of the northern branch of the Islamic movement, MK Barakeh, and Archbishop Atallah Hanna, spoke at the conference and slammed the Israeli violation.
Zahalka said that “the person who steals the smile from children’s faces on the day of the feast is a criminal”. He voiced an appeal to the Arab world and to the international community to send hundreds of aid ships to Gaza in order to break the unjust Israeli siege.
“Israel is using tanks and war-jets in shelling Gaza, if there should be siege, it should be imposed on Israel”, Zahalaka stated, “what Israel is doing in Gaza is a war crime, and what we are doing is simply fighting crime”.
"And the Germans kill the Jews,
And the Jews kill the Arabs
And the Arabs kill the hostages
And that is the news
And is it any wonder that the monkey's confused?"
Some people like to think that the situation is so complicated and so enmeshed in deep-rooted historical, and religious intricacies that we can't possibly hope to unravel all of it's mysteries.
Some people therefore choose to regard the situation as being that involving two sides who are equally at fault, and that therefore we should wash our hands of it, or just cast the blame for the situation equally upon both sides.
This is, however, bullshit.
Unfortunately, even someone as intelligent as Tom Waits fell for this bullshit with his innocuous song 'The Road To Peace'.
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the US has been spouting that Iran funds Hezbollah. yet another peace loving Islamic group. its the Palestinians who accuse Iran of funding Hamas
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/06/24/africa/ME-GEN-Palestinians-Hamas).php
Palestinian intelligence chief accuses Iran of training, funding Hamas militants
but this is besides the point. The point is that Hamas does in fact fire rockets into Israel.... doesnt matter if they are Iranian made, firecrackers, or the piece of shit homemade rockets they use. all it does is give Israel a reason to smack them the fuck down.
How can the occupier also be the one who retaliates?
oh? intelligence chief, Tawfiq Tirawi, is not Palestinian?
do you read all the reports that come out from here? the majority of the time, Israel will respond with a HEAVY fist everytime time worthless homemade rockets are fired at them from Gaza. stop the rockets, you give Israel one less reason to smacking the fuck out of them.
And, like I said, the way you keep saying "Israel responds" is false. I like how you avoided my question so I'm going to ask it again: How can the occupier be the one who retaliates?
Here's a suggestion: Tell Israel to stop occupying them, and the Palestinians will have one less reason to firing rockets.
I like my suggestion better, since it's logical.
sorry, typo. I meant There.
the rockets are being fired from gaza into Israel. sure, I like your point of view as well. Israel should stop occupying lands. but if I were a Hamas militant and I had a choice between eating or firing a almost worthless rocket, I would choose eating.
you are suggesting its ok for them to fire rockets since Israel is occupying. I see your point but strongly disagree.
"Two weeks ago the Israelis issued for the first time a written list of goods that cannot be sent into Gaza for UN humanitarian needs, she said. The list includes spices, kitchenware, glassware, yarn and paper."
Holy shit...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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And the Jews kill the Arabs
And the Arabs kill the hostages
And that is the news
And is it any wonder that the monkey's confused?"
To break down borders and realise that we are one species and then the true patriotism comes from pride and love of the human race, not from the tribes of which we currently are divided, open your eyes your mind will see! - ME
Israeli settlers and Palestinians hurled stones at each other Tuesday near a disputed home in the West Bank city of Hebron, injuring two dozen people, including a Jewish teenager with a serious head wound, medics and Israeli officials said. Seventeen Israelis and Palestinians were arrested, police said.
The clash was the worst outbreak of violence in the dispute over ownership of a four-story building where settlers have defied an Israeli Supreme Court order to vacate. On Monday, hundreds of right-wing Israelis rushed to the house following rumors that eviction was imminent.
Hebron, holy to Jews and Muslims, is one of the most volatile flashpoints in the West Bank. Some 500 hard-line Jewish settlers live in guarded enclaves amid some 170,000 Palestinians in the city, and the sides frequently clash.
Israeli security forces did not intervene Monday as hundreds of settlers threw stones at Palestinian cars and nearby houses, defaced a Muslim cemetery and damaged Palestinian property in several other areas of the West Bank.
Fighting started up again Tuesday, with settlers, some of them masked, throwing rocks at Palestinian houses.
In one incident, young settlers battered at the door of a Palestinian house with a wooden pole, and residents rushed to the roof to throw rocks at the group below. A 16-year-old Israeli was hit in the head in this confrontation, witnesses said. Hospital officials described his injuries as serious.
A total of 18 Israelis were injured, Israeli medics said. Their Palestinian counterparts reported seven Palestinians hurt by stones.
Late Tuesday, the military declared the Palestinian section of Hebron off limits to Israelis.
An Israeli airstrike killed two Palestinians in southern Gaza on Tuesday, dealing a new blow to efforts to restore a cease-fire. The army said it attacked militants who fired mortar shells at Israeli troops. Palestinian medical officials said the dead were civilians, boys ages 16 and 17.
I had hoped after reading that press release that Egypt might open it's border and let UN/NGO aid in. I forgot how disgustingly pro west the younger Mubarak is.
Doha conference: yes it was about alot, Bretton Woods etc but why didn't we show up?
By Saed Bannoura
The Israeli navy barred on Sunday morning a ship which was supposed to sail from Jaffa port to the Gaza Strip carrying medical and humanitarian supplies.
The ship was organized by Arab leaders and leftist activists in Israel.
The ship, was dubbed “the Eid Ship”, as the Muslims will be marking the Adha Eid (feast) on Monday. The Israeli navy took the ship to the Tel Aviv port.
The Israeli police said that the ship carried medical equipment and medicine, and that three activists were detained.
The ship had on board seven tons of humanitarian and medical aid, food and toys for children.
The Israeli police also detained and interrogated three activists from northern Israel after they arrived in Jaffa with a truck filled with equipment to ship to Gaza.
Arab members of the Knesset (MK), Jamal Zahalka and Wasel Taha, said that barring the ship from sailing to the improvised and hungry Gaza Strip “is an act against humanity”, and added that “we will make our strongest efforts to send aid ships to the Gaza Strip from different parts of the world.
Arab member of the Knesset, Mohammad Barakeh, said that “it seems that Israel is giving the settlers a free hand in Hebron while besieging more than 1.5 million Palestinians in the Gaza Strip”.
He added that the ship was a symbolic and humanitarian act carried out by Arabs and Jews, “but it seems that the Israeli authorities insist to show their true ugly colors”, he added.
On Sunday morning at approximately 9:30, Arab leaders in Israel held a press conference condemning the Israeli violation. Barakeh, Arab MK Jamal Zahalka, Sheikh Raed Salah of the northern branch of the Islamic movement, MK Barakeh, and Archbishop Atallah Hanna, spoke at the conference and slammed the Israeli violation.
Zahalka said that “the person who steals the smile from children’s faces on the day of the feast is a criminal”. He voiced an appeal to the Arab world and to the international community to send hundreds of aid ships to Gaza in order to break the unjust Israeli siege.
“Israel is using tanks and war-jets in shelling Gaza, if there should be siege, it should be imposed on Israel”, Zahalaka stated, “what Israel is doing in Gaza is a war crime, and what we are doing is simply fighting crime”.
Some people like to think that the situation is so complicated and so enmeshed in deep-rooted historical, and religious intricacies that we can't possibly hope to unravel all of it's mysteries.
Some people therefore choose to regard the situation as being that involving two sides who are equally at fault, and that therefore we should wash our hands of it, or just cast the blame for the situation equally upon both sides.
This is, however, bullshit.
Unfortunately, even someone as intelligent as Tom Waits fell for this bullshit with his innocuous song 'The Road To Peace'.