so they should probably just continue to fire rockets into Israel. who knows they may get lucky and hit some kids on their way to school! viva la resistance! whole lot of good its doing them eh? maybe they should try a peaceful resistance.
If it wasn't for the fact that the current Israeli mindset puts them as God's chosen race above all people on this planet, regardless of who does what, there might be something in that reasoning.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
it was you (and others) posting about how horrible this blockade is correct? and it is horrible. well, Israel opened the blockade, which is what you want correct? then it was closed because more rockets were fired last night.
fire no rockets, blockade remains lifted. moot my ass.
Getting a little touchy now are we?
You say the blockade was lifted? It was just a partial lifting of the blockade which was yesterday condemned by world leaders as totally insufficient.
A United Nations spokesman slammed the amount of international food aid Israel allowed into the Gaza Strip on Monday, amid mounting international concern over a deterioration of the humanitarian situation in the besieged, aid-dependent Palestinian territory. "It is most emphatically not enough," said UN Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) spokesman Chris Gunness. "This drip-drip approach will not allow UNRWA to function."
With stocks running dangerously low, UNRWA had expressed fears it would have to suspend its food distribution for the second time since Israel completely sealed off the territory at the beginning of the month.
Various UN and EU officials have denounced the effect of the siege on Gaza's population, half of whom are dependent on handouts for survival, saying the action amounts to "collective punishment of a civilian population." Such an action is illegal under international law and defined by the Fourth Geneva Convention as a war crime.''
I don't disagree with that. Your point is true, no question...it's just a frivolous one.
well maybe someone should send the memo to Palestine. stop firing rockets and the blockade will be lifted. continue to fire rockets, you will suffer the consequences.
well maybe someone should send the memo to Palestine. stop firing rockets and the blockade will be lifted. continue to fire rockets, you will suffer the consequences.
The rockets had stopped for the first couple of months of the truce but Israel still failed to stick to it's side of the agreement, and the blockade remained in place. Israel also continued carrying out targeted assassinations and illegal incursions in and around the West Bank. I wonder why some militants within the Gaza prison decided eventually to retaliate?
'The IDF on Wednesday closed Gaza's cargo crossings in response to the previous day's Kassam rocket attacks that violated the truce between Israel and Gaza terrorists.
The IDF said all crossings had been closed except for the Erez pedestrian terminal.
The truce began six days ago, and on Sunday, Israel began incrementally increasing the amount of goods entering Gaza.
Islamic Jihad said Tuesday's rocket attack was a response to an IDF raid on the West Bank that killed an Islamic Jihad commander, even though the West Bank is not included in the truce.
The group had said Tuesday after a meeting with Hamas that the rockets were an "exceptional" response to the West Bank fighting, suggesting that they would abstain from further rocket fire'
The rockets had stopped for the first couple of months of the truce but Israel still failed to stick to it's side of the agreement, and the blockade remained in place. I wonder why some militants within the Gaza prison decided eventually to retaliate?
well maybe someone should send the memo to Palestine. stop firing rockets and the blockade will be lifted. continue to fire rockets, you will suffer the consequences.
In other words, stop resisting, resistance is futile You will be assimilated on our terms according to how we see fit.
I think if Israel would just adhere to the two state guidelines and perhaps withdraw, or at least show intentions of, or make some kind of visible effort....they would begin to see more cooperation and less violence. But West Bank colonisation rages on despite what anyone the world around thinks, says, or does. It's just not a viable consideration for Israel, and I think through their actions this has become very apparent.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
well maybe someone should send the memo to Palestine. stop firing rockets and the blockade will be lifted. continue to fire rockets, you will suffer the consequences.
That's not quite the whole picture though, is it.
Gaza truce broken as Israeli raid kills six Hamas gunmen
Wednesday November 5 2008
'A four-month ceasefire between Israel and Palestinian militants in Gaza was in jeopardy today after Israeli troops killed six Hamas gunmen in a raid into the territory.
Hamas responded by firing a wave of rockets into southern Israel, although no one was injured. The violence represented the most serious break in a ceasefire agreed in mid-June, yet both sides suggested they wanted to return to atmosphere of calm...
Until now it had appeared both Israel and Hamas, which seized full control of Gaza last summer, had an interest in maintaining the ceasefire. For Israel it has meant an end to the daily barrage of rockets landing in southern towns, particularly Sderot. For Gazans it has meant an end to the regular Israeli military raids that have caused hundreds of casualties, many of them civilian, in the past year. Israel, however, has maintained its economic blockade on the strip, severely limiting imports and preventing all exports from Gaza.'
I think if Israel would just adhere to the two state guidelines and perhaps withdraw, or at least show intentions of, or make some kind of visible effort....they would begin to see more cooperation and less violence. But West Bank colonisation rages on despite what anyone the world around thinks, says, or does. It's just not a viable consideration for Israel, and I think through their actions this has become very apparent.
well maybe someone should send the memo to Palestine. stop firing rockets and the blockade will be lifted. continue to fire rockets, you will suffer the consequences.
They're suffering anyways, that's the main point in all of this. You're talking about this situation as if these are just two regular neighbors, both free to do as they please, and one of them picked a fight with the other. If this was Canada firing rockets into Detroit, your point might mean something. But that's not the case with Israel and Palestine. You need to read more about the situation and gain some perspective on it imo.
Gaza truce broken as Israeli raid kills six Hamas gunmen
Wednesday November 5 2008
'A four-month ceasefire between Israel and Palestinian militants in Gaza was in jeopardy today after Israeli troops killed six Hamas gunmen in a raid into the territory.
Hamas responded by firing a wave of rockets into southern Israel, although no one was injured. The violence represented the most serious break in a ceasefire agreed in mid-June, yet both sides suggested they wanted to return to atmosphere of calm...
Until now it had appeared both Israel and Hamas, which seized full control of Gaza last summer, had an interest in maintaining the ceasefire. For Israel it has meant an end to the daily barrage of rockets landing in southern towns, particularly Sderot. For Gazans it has meant an end to the regular Israeli military raids that have caused hundreds of casualties, many of them civilian, in the past year. Israel, however, has maintained its economic blockade on the strip, severely limiting imports and preventing all exports from Gaza.'
thanks. so if Hamas said it would end rocket attacks, I wonder what would happen.
'Israel has blamed the latest restrictions of aid and fuel to Gaza on Hamas’s violation of a five-month ceasefire by launching rockets out of the Strip. But Israel had a hand in shattering the agreement: as the world was distracted by the US presidential elections, the army invaded Gaza, killing six Palestinians and provoking the rocket fire.
The humanitarian catastrophe gripping Gaza is largely unrelated to the latest tit-for-tat strikes between Hamas and Israel. Nearly a year ago, Karen Koning AbuZayd, commissioner-general of the UN’s refugee agency, warned: “Gaza is on the threshold of becoming the first territory to be intentionally reduced to a state of abject destitution”.
She blamed Gaza’s strangulation directly on Israel, but also cited the international community as accomplice. Together they began blocking aid in early 2006, following the election of Hamas to head the Palestinian Authority (PA).
The US and Europe agreed to the measure on the principle that it would force the people of Gaza to rethink their support for Hamas. The logic was supposedly similar to the one that drove the sanctions applied to Iraq under Saddam Hussein through the 1990s: if Gaza’s civilians suffered enough, they would rise up against Hamas and install new leaders acceptable to Israel and the West.
As Ms AbuZayd said, that moment marked the beginning of the international community’s complicity in a policy of collective punishment of Gaza, despite the fact that the Fourth Geneva Convention classifies such treatment of civilians as a war crime...
With embarrassing timing, the Israeli media revealed at the weekend that one of the first acts of Ismail Haniyeh, the Hamas prime minister elected in 2006, was to send a message to the Bush White House offering a long-term truce in return for an end to Israeli occupation. His offer was not even acknowledged.
Instead, according to the daily Jerusalem Post, Israeli policymakers have sought to reinforce the impression that “it would be pointless for Israel to topple Hamas because the population [of Gaza] is Hamas”. On this thinking, collective punishment is warranted because there are no true civilians in Gaza. Israel is at war with every single man, woman and child.
In an indication of how widely this view is shared, the cabinet discussed last week a new strategy to obliterate Gazan villages in an attempt to stop the rocket launches, in an echo of discredited Israeli tactics used in south Lebanon in its war of 2006. The inhabitants would be given warning before indiscriminate shelling began.
Increasingly strident talk from officials, culminating in February in the deputy defence minister Matan Vilnai’s infamous remark about creating a “shoah”, or Holocaust, in Gaza, has been matched by Israeli measures. The military bombed Gaza’s electricity plant in June 2006, and has been incrementally cutting fuel supplies ever since. In January, Mr Vilnai argued that Israel should cut off “all responsibility” for Gaza and two months later Israel signed a deal with Egypt for it to build a power station for Gaza in Sinai.
All of these moves are designed with the same purpose in mind: persuading the world that Israel’s occupation of Gaza is over and that Israel can therefore ignore the laws of occupation and use unremitting force against Gaza.
Cabinet ministers have been queuing up to express such sentiments. Ehud Olmert, for example, has declared that Gazans should not be allowed to “live normal lives”; Avi Dichter believes punishment should be inflicted “irrespective of the cost to the Palestinians”; Meir Sheetrit has urged that Israel should “decide on a neighbourhood in Gaza and level it” – the policy discussed by ministers last week.
The question remains: what does Israel expect the response of Gazans to be to their immiseration and ever greater insecurity in the face of Israeli military reprisals?
Eyal Sarraj, the head of Gaza’s Community Mental Health Programme, said this year that Israel’s long-term goal was to force Egypt to end the controls along its short border with the Strip. Once the border was open, he warned, “Wait for the exodus.”
I didnt say stop resisting. I said resist peacefully.
How though? From what I've seen in various documentaries, whenever they begin to assemble in protest Israeli tanks show up and fire riot bangers, tear gas, and troops start shooting rubber bullets all over the place.
The place is nuts.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
They're suffering anyways, that's the main point in all of this. You're talking about this situation as if these are just two regular neighbors, both free to do as they please, and one of them picked a fight with the other. If this was Canada firing rockets into Detroit, your point might mean something. But that's not the case with Israel and Palestine. You need to read more about the situation and gain some perspective on it imo.
I read plenty about this situation. sounds to me if Hamas vowed to stop rocket attacks the situation would be different.
thanks. so if Hamas said it would end rocket attacks, I wonder what would happen.
If Israel would stop carrying out targeted assassinations - war crime - stop carrying out illegal military incursions, stop demolishing Palestinian homes - war crime - and cease it's collective punishment of 1.5 million people - war crime - I wonder what would happen?
Also, I wonder what would happen if Israel said it would begin abiding by international law and withdraw from the Occupied Territories?
Still, nevermind that. Let's just focus our attention on Palestinian rocket attacks and pretend that they are the root cause, and not merely a symptom, of all the suffering we've seen for the past 40 years.
From what I've seen in various documentaries, whenever they begin to assemble in protest Israeli tanks show up and fire riot bangers, tear gas, and troops start shooting rubber bullets all over the place.
The place is nuts.
I'm not defending Israel. the international community should condemn the acts of Israel, namely the US. would be easier to do however if Hamas did what I suggested above.
If Israel would stop carrying out targeted assassinations - war crime - stop carrying out illegal military incursions, stop demolishing Palestinian homes - war crime - and cease it's collective punishment of 1.5 million people - war crime - I wonder what would happen?
progress would be made for sure. its a two way street.
It's to the point that Israelis will even show up and forcefully break up funerals with tanks and gunfire for the people they were responsible for killing in the first place. While they are mourning...it's insane.
They do this at picnics as well. In fact, they do it all the time in peaceful situations for no reason whatsoever.
How does one peacefully resist against that?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Hamas can renounce violence and vow to stop all rocket attacks into Israel.
You don't think they've tried this avenue of peaceful negotiations?
It's happened many many times.
The end result is the Israeli "we take the divine right" agenda goes forward same as before....take another gouge out of the West Bank, and again the entire process starts anew.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I read plenty about this situation. sounds to me if Hamas vowed to stop rocket attacks the situation would be different.
Right, so if I came to your house with 20 other guys, killed half of your family, kicked you out, built a crummy little fenced-in shack out in the back yard for you to live in while me and my guys moved into your house, then accuse you of terrorism every time you try to fight back, you think that'd be reasonable? You'd think it'd be reasonable for me to say "well, if you'd just stop firing rockets at us, everything would be fine"? No, you'd tell me to go to hell just like I'd tell you if the situation were reversed.
Again, your perspective on what's happened over there is skewed. Keep reading.
I'm not defending Israel. the international community should condemn the acts of Israel
They DO...all the time. They've brought dozens of resolutions to the UN Security Council over the years...the U.S. just always vetoes them. Look it up.
They DO...all the time. They've brought dozens of resolutions to the UN Security Council over the years...the U.S. just always vetoes them. Look it up.
I said namely the US. looks like you missed that. how about you stop being condescending ?
Right, so if I came to your house with 20 other guys, killed half of your family, kicked you out, built a crummy little fenced-in shack out in the back yard for you to live in while me and my guys moved into your house, then accuse you of terrorism every time you try to fight back, you think that'd be reasonable? You'd think it'd be reasonable for me to say "well, if you'd just stop firing rockets at us, everything would be fine"? No, you'd tell me to go to hell just like I'd tell you if the situation were reversed.
Again, your perspective on what's happened over there is skewed. Keep reading.
I said namely the US. looks like you missed that. how about you stop being condescending ?
I know, but my point is that these small-scale attacks from Hamas aren't inhibiting any criticism of Israel in the international community....the U.S. is doing that. That's why focusing on this story and trying to use it to say "well if Hamas would just cut the crap, maybe things would be different" is way off-base. That's what everyone here is trying to tell you.
I know, but my point is that these small-scale attacks from Hamas aren't inhibiting any criticism of Israel in the international community....the U.S. is doing that. That's why focusing on this story and trying to use it to say "well if Hamas would just cut the crap, maybe things would be different" is way off-base. That's what everyone here is trying to tell you.
well sure is worth a shot on Hamas's part. firing rockets into Israel does nothing expect give Israel an excuse to put the fucking smack down on them.
well sure is worth a shot on Hamas's part. firing rockets into Israel does nothing expect give Israel an excuse to put the fucking smack down on them.
True. Although if the Israeli's can't use rockets as an excuse then they'll find another excuse like they did last week; I.e, tunnels which may be used to abduct IDF soldiers.
well sure is worth a shot on Hamas's part. firing rockets into Israel does nothing expect give Israel an excuse to put the fucking smack down on them.
But Israel is laying the smack down on them anyways regardless of whether they're firing rockets or not. They're under occupation. That's why it's silly for you to talk about the issue the way you do...you keep talking about what Hamas has to do or what Hamas should do. We should be focused on telling Israel what it needs to do. We shouldn't excuse anyone for any sort of terrorist activity, but in a situation where both sides are committing terrorism, we should focus more on the side that's carrying out majority of it...and that side is Israel without a doubt.
I read plenty about this situation. sounds to me if Hamas vowed to stop rocket attacks the situation would be different.
sounds to me like you have no fucking clue about what a "truce" is.
you see, there was a truce agreed upon 5 months ago or so where both Hamas and Israel said they would stop attacking eachother (ie. stop rocket attacks). clearly that wasn't enough for Israel since they still killed plenty of Gazans. And after they break the truce and Hamas fires back with any rockets, they're fucking surprised?? so they implemented the blockade BECAUSE of this?? do you think you are making any sense because I don't think you are. perhaps in a fantasy world where your distractions and irrelevant news are considered necessary facts to this situation, it would matter. at the end of the day, to say something as ignorant as "if hamas stopped rocket attacks, the gazans could live" is just pure fabrication and a lame attempt at lifting the blame off israel.
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If it wasn't for the fact that the current Israeli mindset puts them as God's chosen race above all people on this planet, regardless of who does what, there might be something in that reasoning.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
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Getting a little touchy now are we?
You say the blockade was lifted? It was just a partial lifting of the blockade which was yesterday condemned by world leaders as totally insufficient.
http://www.dailystar.com.
'Tuesday, November 25, 2008
A United Nations spokesman slammed the amount of international food aid Israel allowed into the Gaza Strip on Monday, amid mounting international concern over a deterioration of the humanitarian situation in the besieged, aid-dependent Palestinian territory. "It is most emphatically not enough," said UN Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) spokesman Chris Gunness. "This drip-drip approach will not allow UNRWA to function."
With stocks running dangerously low, UNRWA had expressed fears it would have to suspend its food distribution for the second time since Israel completely sealed off the territory at the beginning of the month.
Various UN and EU officials have denounced the effect of the siege on Gaza's population, half of whom are dependent on handouts for survival, saying the action amounts to "collective punishment of a civilian population." Such an action is illegal under international law and defined by the Fourth Geneva Convention as a war crime.''
well maybe someone should send the memo to Palestine. stop firing rockets and the blockade will be lifted. continue to fire rockets, you will suffer the consequences.
The rockets had stopped for the first couple of months of the truce but Israel still failed to stick to it's side of the agreement, and the blockade remained in place. Israel also continued carrying out targeted assassinations and illegal incursions in and around the West Bank. I wonder why some militants within the Gaza prison decided eventually to retaliate?
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull&cid=1214132681387
Jun 25, 2008
'The IDF on Wednesday closed Gaza's cargo crossings in response to the previous day's Kassam rocket attacks that violated the truce between Israel and Gaza terrorists.
The IDF said all crossings had been closed except for the Erez pedestrian terminal.
The truce began six days ago, and on Sunday, Israel began incrementally increasing the amount of goods entering Gaza.
Islamic Jihad said Tuesday's rocket attack was a response to an IDF raid on the West Bank that killed an Islamic Jihad commander, even though the West Bank is not included in the truce.
The group had said Tuesday after a meeting with Hamas that the rockets were an "exceptional" response to the West Bank fighting, suggesting that they would abstain from further rocket fire'
just curious. how do you know this?
In other words, stop resisting, resistance is futile You will be assimilated on our terms according to how we see fit.
I think if Israel would just adhere to the two state guidelines and perhaps withdraw, or at least show intentions of, or make some kind of visible effort....they would begin to see more cooperation and less violence. But West Bank colonisation rages on despite what anyone the world around thinks, says, or does. It's just not a viable consideration for Israel, and I think through their actions this has become very apparent.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Because I read.
That's not quite the whole picture though, is it.
Gaza truce broken as Israeli raid kills six Hamas gunmen
Wednesday November 5 2008
'A four-month ceasefire between Israel and Palestinian militants in Gaza was in jeopardy today after Israeli troops killed six Hamas gunmen in a raid into the territory.
Hamas responded by firing a wave of rockets into southern Israel, although no one was injured. The violence represented the most serious break in a ceasefire agreed in mid-June, yet both sides suggested they wanted to return to atmosphere of calm...
Until now it had appeared both Israel and Hamas, which seized full control of Gaza last summer, had an interest in maintaining the ceasefire. For Israel it has meant an end to the daily barrage of rockets landing in southern towns, particularly Sderot. For Gazans it has meant an end to the regular Israeli military raids that have caused hundreds of casualties, many of them civilian, in the past year. Israel, however, has maintained its economic blockade on the strip, severely limiting imports and preventing all exports from Gaza.'
I didnt say stop resisting. I said resist peacefully.
agreed
so do I. whenever you're ready, I'll be happy to read the same thing you did
thanks. so if Hamas said it would end rocket attacks, I wonder what would happen.
The Real Goal of Israel's Blockade of Gaza
'Israel has blamed the latest restrictions of aid and fuel to Gaza on Hamas’s violation of a five-month ceasefire by launching rockets out of the Strip. But Israel had a hand in shattering the agreement: as the world was distracted by the US presidential elections, the army invaded Gaza, killing six Palestinians and provoking the rocket fire.
The humanitarian catastrophe gripping Gaza is largely unrelated to the latest tit-for-tat strikes between Hamas and Israel. Nearly a year ago, Karen Koning AbuZayd, commissioner-general of the UN’s refugee agency, warned: “Gaza is on the threshold of becoming the first territory to be intentionally reduced to a state of abject destitution”.
She blamed Gaza’s strangulation directly on Israel, but also cited the international community as accomplice. Together they began blocking aid in early 2006, following the election of Hamas to head the Palestinian Authority (PA).
The US and Europe agreed to the measure on the principle that it would force the people of Gaza to rethink their support for Hamas. The logic was supposedly similar to the one that drove the sanctions applied to Iraq under Saddam Hussein through the 1990s: if Gaza’s civilians suffered enough, they would rise up against Hamas and install new leaders acceptable to Israel and the West.
As Ms AbuZayd said, that moment marked the beginning of the international community’s complicity in a policy of collective punishment of Gaza, despite the fact that the Fourth Geneva Convention classifies such treatment of civilians as a war crime...
With embarrassing timing, the Israeli media revealed at the weekend that one of the first acts of Ismail Haniyeh, the Hamas prime minister elected in 2006, was to send a message to the Bush White House offering a long-term truce in return for an end to Israeli occupation. His offer was not even acknowledged.
Instead, according to the daily Jerusalem Post, Israeli policymakers have sought to reinforce the impression that “it would be pointless for Israel to topple Hamas because the population [of Gaza] is Hamas”. On this thinking, collective punishment is warranted because there are no true civilians in Gaza. Israel is at war with every single man, woman and child.
In an indication of how widely this view is shared, the cabinet discussed last week a new strategy to obliterate Gazan villages in an attempt to stop the rocket launches, in an echo of discredited Israeli tactics used in south Lebanon in its war of 2006. The inhabitants would be given warning before indiscriminate shelling began.
Increasingly strident talk from officials, culminating in February in the deputy defence minister Matan Vilnai’s infamous remark about creating a “shoah”, or Holocaust, in Gaza, has been matched by Israeli measures. The military bombed Gaza’s electricity plant in June 2006, and has been incrementally cutting fuel supplies ever since. In January, Mr Vilnai argued that Israel should cut off “all responsibility” for Gaza and two months later Israel signed a deal with Egypt for it to build a power station for Gaza in Sinai.
All of these moves are designed with the same purpose in mind: persuading the world that Israel’s occupation of Gaza is over and that Israel can therefore ignore the laws of occupation and use unremitting force against Gaza.
Cabinet ministers have been queuing up to express such sentiments. Ehud Olmert, for example, has declared that Gazans should not be allowed to “live normal lives”; Avi Dichter believes punishment should be inflicted “irrespective of the cost to the Palestinians”; Meir Sheetrit has urged that Israel should “decide on a neighbourhood in Gaza and level it” – the policy discussed by ministers last week.
The question remains: what does Israel expect the response of Gazans to be to their immiseration and ever greater insecurity in the face of Israeli military reprisals?
Eyal Sarraj, the head of Gaza’s Community Mental Health Programme, said this year that Israel’s long-term goal was to force Egypt to end the controls along its short border with the Strip. Once the border was open, he warned, “Wait for the exodus.”
How though? From what I've seen in various documentaries, whenever they begin to assemble in protest Israeli tanks show up and fire riot bangers, tear gas, and troops start shooting rubber bullets all over the place.
The place is nuts.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
If Israel would stop carrying out targeted assassinations - war crime - stop carrying out illegal military incursions, stop demolishing Palestinian homes - war crime - and cease it's collective punishment of 1.5 million people - war crime - I wonder what would happen?
Also, I wonder what would happen if Israel said it would begin abiding by international law and withdraw from the Occupied Territories?
Still, nevermind that. Let's just focus our attention on Palestinian rocket attacks and pretend that they are the root cause, and not merely a symptom, of all the suffering we've seen for the past 40 years.
Hamas can renounce violence and vow to stop all rocket attacks into Israel.
I'm not defending Israel. the international community should condemn the acts of Israel, namely the US. would be easier to do however if Hamas did what I suggested above.
They do this at picnics as well. In fact, they do it all the time in peaceful situations for no reason whatsoever.
How does one peacefully resist against that?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Why not ask Israel to renounce violence and end the occupation?
You don't think they've tried this avenue of peaceful negotiations?
It's happened many many times.
The end result is the Israeli "we take the divine right" agenda goes forward same as before....take another gouge out of the West Bank, and again the entire process starts anew.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Again, your perspective on what's happened over there is skewed. Keep reading.
cute analogy. violence is still not the answer.
well sure is worth a shot on Hamas's part. firing rockets into Israel does nothing expect give Israel an excuse to put the fucking smack down on them.
True. Although if the Israeli's can't use rockets as an excuse then they'll find another excuse like they did last week; I.e, tunnels which may be used to abduct IDF soldiers.
you see, there was a truce agreed upon 5 months ago or so where both Hamas and Israel said they would stop attacking eachother (ie. stop rocket attacks). clearly that wasn't enough for Israel since they still killed plenty of Gazans. And after they break the truce and Hamas fires back with any rockets, they're fucking surprised?? so they implemented the blockade BECAUSE of this?? do you think you are making any sense because I don't think you are. perhaps in a fantasy world where your distractions and irrelevant news are considered necessary facts to this situation, it would matter. at the end of the day, to say something as ignorant as "if hamas stopped rocket attacks, the gazans could live" is just pure fabrication and a lame attempt at lifting the blame off israel.