The other thing you can do is not carry anything of substantial wealth and submit. Offer your attacker your wallet and advise them to have fun with the bank card (lol). Carry little or minimal cash. Someone steals your wallet? oh well.
I personally hate cash as it is. Makes the wallet too thick and change is heavy.
I hate bank cards. Those stupid girls in front of me in line need to get some cash for their $1.29 can of Diet Coke.
The other thing you can do is not carry anything of substantial wealth and submit. Offer your attacker your wallet and advise them to have fun with the bank card (lol). Carry little or minimal cash. Someone steals your wallet? oh well.
I personally hate cash as it is. Makes the wallet too thick and change is heavy.
the means to steal your identity is worth more than money.
I thought the gun death statistics show that society owning guns leads to more people getting shot by them. Seems pretty cause and effect to me. Wasn't there a study done on this?
People tend to get angry and irrational with or without owning a gun. If my neighbor went totally psycho nuts one day I would be telling myself hmm I hope he does not have access to a gun.
I think gun nuts are exactly that...fucking nuts!
i see you misunderstood. crime goes up where a society is disarmed. the original post states the rise in the crime rate in DC since the ban went into effect. others have posted stats that the uk and austrailia's crime rate elevated when the people were disarmed.
there was also a post showing a gun death rate for 1994 at about 17,000 people; then another post showing the gun death rate for 2004 at about 10,000. this is a significant drop. during those 10 years; 23 states have enacted laws allowing citizens to carry conceiled weapons.
coincidence?
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I hate bank cards. Those stupid girls in front of me in line need to get some cash for their $1.29 can of Diet Coke.
call girls stupid for using bank cards for cokes...but I can't call people stupid for disliking peoples sex drives...hmmmmmmm Come on Z...whats up with that???
call girls stupid for using bank cards for cokes...but I can't call people stupid for disliking peoples sex drives...hmmmmmmm Come on Z...whats up with that???
Mesa love sex drives. I mean. I love sex.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
i see you misunderstood. crime goes up where a society is disarmed. the original post states the rise in the crime rate in DC since the ban went into effect. others have posted stats that the uk and austrailia's crime rate elevated when the people were disarmed.
there was also a post showing a gun death rate for 1994 at about 17,000 people; then another post showing the gun death rate for 2004 at about 10,000. this is a significant drop. during those 10 years; 23 states have enacted laws allowing citizens to carry conceiled weapons.
coincidence?
we have a shit load more crime in the US than European countries that don't have guns.
Also on DC....yea the ban wasn't successful...cause criminals could drive a few miles to get guns....ban them in the US.....give everyone fair market value for their guns...then anyone caught with a gun gets minimum 5 years...and crime will go down big time. Very simple really.. ...not that I agree with this..as I DON't Trust my government..especially when bible toting voters keep electing crooks...yea yea yea..I know.
call girls stupid for using bank cards for cokes...but I can't call people stupid for disliking peoples sex drives...hmmmmmmm Come on Z...whats up with that???
Hey, give me a break. It was a bad morning this morning with that. I should have just slept longer.
Of course there's a parenting problem.........what's your point?
well you've admitted your country has a problem with guns! and yet you are still defending the 'right' to bear arms...
i see no-one has yet answered that question i posted 3 times, earlier in this thread :rolleyes:
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
i see you misunderstood. crime goes up where a society is disarmed. the original post states the rise in the crime rate in DC since the ban went into effect. others have posted stats that the uk and austrailia's crime rate elevated when the people were disarmed.
there was also a post showing a gun death rate for 1994 at about 17,000 people; then another post showing the gun death rate for 2004 at about 10,000. this is a significant drop. during those 10 years; 23 states have enacted laws allowing citizens to carry conceiled weapons.
coincidence?
"the people" were never armed in Australia, in a sense that US citizens are. Gun crime is so low here that a single death could significantly alter stats, but I don't believe they have gone up in any event. I thknk a few bikers shot each other last year, that's about it, and the ocasional dometic shooting. It boggles my mind that you think 10 000 is a great number. It is pretty obvious that as a country, you have missed the opportunity to have low gun and gun crime rates. You constant calms about the ease with which criminal can get guns are probably true, because you have persisted with our rights for so long, you have actually created the need for those rights. There are too many many in existance to easily eradciate them, and there is no political will to do so. Those of us in gun free countries are grateful that we never had the right and obsessive need to bear arms, because now we don't need to. I understand the fascination with guns, I went through a phase of it myself as a teenager. My father inherited an old Winchester lever action, and I learnt to strip it totally and rebuild it blindfolded. But i grew out if it.
I think that the anti-gunners here are arguing that is is possible and desirable to have society including yours without guns, not that we expect to actually happen.
well you've admitted your country has a problem with guns! and yet you are still defending the 'right' to bear arms...
i see no-one has yet answered that question i posted 3 times, earlier in this thread :rolleyes:
Our country has a problem with criminals comitting crimes with firearms. Should we work to reduce the problem? Yes.
Our country has a problem with automobile deaths. Should we work to reduce the problem? Yes.
Our country has a problem with prescription medicine error related deaths. Should we work to reduce the problem? Yes.
Do we need to ban any of these things? NO!
It would also seem to the that 1st Amendment rights lead to abuse of 2nd Amendment rights and that we should seek to limit people's 1st Amendment rights as well. Where does it end?
well you've admitted your country has a problem with guns! and yet you are still defending the 'right' to bear arms...
i see no-one has yet answered that question i posted 3 times, earlier in this thread :rolleyes:
I can't believe you're still blaming the gun for the crime. Primarily, our society has a problem with crime for the staggering economic and educational inequality we live in.
Our country has a problem with criminals comitting crimes with firearms. Should we work to reduce the problem? Yes.
Our country has a problem with automobile deaths. Should we work to reduce the problem? Yes.
Our country has a problem with prescription medicine error related deaths. Should we work to reduce the problem? Yes.
are guns truly necessary and were they designed to shoot people in the face? no and yes
are automobiles necessary and were they designed to kill people? yes, pretty much and no
are prescription medicines necessary and were they designed to kill people for a laugh? yes and no
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
I can't believe you're still blaming the gun for the crime.
i think the guns helps... otherwise its just people pointing their fingers at each other and shouting *bang* and as yet i've never heard of anyone dying as a result of being shouted at
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
i think the guns helps... otherwise its just people pointing their fingers at each other and shouting *bang* and as yet i've never heard of anyone dying as a result of being shouted at
Well, then I guess you're suggesting the cops go without guns as well. Which leaves the military the only ones armed.
well you've admitted your country has a problem with guns! and yet you are still defending the 'right' to bear arms...
i see no-one has yet answered that question i posted 3 times, earlier in this thread :rolleyes:
I did answer the question earlier. And I don't think that guns are a major problem in the US although in some selective placed they are........placed where there are a lot of gangs, etc. As a whole, there is not a "gun problem". I also addressed that in a previous post where I mentioned that the people causing the problems with guns are those who are allready breaking gun laws that are in place. It's not the people who respect the law that are causing the problems, but rather those who do not respect it. If another law were put in place banning all firearms, what makes you think that they will all of the sudden start respecting the law? Stop hearing what you want to hear and look at how past legislation regarding gun bans have negatively effected societies; Washington DC-crime increased, gun-related crime increased as well! Great Britain-crime increased. Australia-crime increased...................While in the mean time, crime rates in the US continue to drop...........explain that!
Well, then I guess you're suggesting the cops go without guns as well. Which leaves the military the only ones armed.
how the fuck do you get that I'm "suggesting the cops go without guns as well"
and the military being the only ones armed? sounds just like the UK to me? big deal
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Already like that in a number of countries... what's the issue here?
Name those countries.
I have an issue with dunkman's take on the evil of firearms. I think the gun is a nice little tool, is all. If it is only in the hands of the military and/or the cops then it is a tool for control, and that doesn't jibe with my way of thinking.
If it is only in the hands of the military and/or the cops then it is a tool for control, and that doesn't jibe with my way of thinking.
If it is in the hands of the idiots and/or the neo-con right wingers then it is a tool for death, and that doesn't jibe with my way of thinking.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
So, you're cool with geniuses and liberals owning guns?
i dont actually need a gun though
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Well, when I do think I need one, I hope it is still legal to purchase one.:)
lol I only need one for the same reason that baseball players need baseballs...........It's hard to shoot a pheasant by pointing your finger and shouting bang.
edit: or for your animal rights activists.........to shoot a clay pigeon.
lol I only need one for the same reason that baseball players need baseballs...........It's hard to shoot a pheasant by pointing your finger and shouting bang.
I'd like to get out to the country before this year is out and bang some pheasant, too.
It's hard to shoot a pheasant by pointing your finger and shouting bang.
hunting with guns is still legal in Scotland.. i'm fine with that gun usage, its the non-trained, bought out of fear people i'm worried about
genuine huntsmen and stuff are usually very very good with their guns.. in terms of handling, safekeeping, training, etc..... i personally would like to go hunting one day in the Highlands of Scotland.. i think it'd be amazing
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
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I hate bank cards. Those stupid girls in front of me in line need to get some cash for their $1.29 can of Diet Coke.
I would say this about the people in this thread who fear guns so damn much that, if they don't know how to use them, nobody should have them.
the means to steal your identity is worth more than money.
i see you misunderstood. crime goes up where a society is disarmed. the original post states the rise in the crime rate in DC since the ban went into effect. others have posted stats that the uk and austrailia's crime rate elevated when the people were disarmed.
there was also a post showing a gun death rate for 1994 at about 17,000 people; then another post showing the gun death rate for 2004 at about 10,000. this is a significant drop. during those 10 years; 23 states have enacted laws allowing citizens to carry conceiled weapons.
coincidence?
I believe in God mother*****er!!!!!!!!!!
Mesa love sex drives. I mean. I love sex.
we have a shit load more crime in the US than European countries that don't have guns.
Also on DC....yea the ban wasn't successful...cause criminals could drive a few miles to get guns....ban them in the US.....give everyone fair market value for their guns...then anyone caught with a gun gets minimum 5 years...and crime will go down big time. Very simple really.. ...not that I agree with this..as I DON't Trust my government..especially when bible toting voters keep electing crooks...yea yea yea..I know.
Hey, give me a break. It was a bad morning this morning with that. I should have just slept longer.
well you've admitted your country has a problem with guns! and yet you are still defending the 'right' to bear arms...
i see no-one has yet answered that question i posted 3 times, earlier in this thread :rolleyes:
"the people" were never armed in Australia, in a sense that US citizens are. Gun crime is so low here that a single death could significantly alter stats, but I don't believe they have gone up in any event. I thknk a few bikers shot each other last year, that's about it, and the ocasional dometic shooting. It boggles my mind that you think 10 000 is a great number. It is pretty obvious that as a country, you have missed the opportunity to have low gun and gun crime rates. You constant calms about the ease with which criminal can get guns are probably true, because you have persisted with our rights for so long, you have actually created the need for those rights. There are too many many in existance to easily eradciate them, and there is no political will to do so. Those of us in gun free countries are grateful that we never had the right and obsessive need to bear arms, because now we don't need to. I understand the fascination with guns, I went through a phase of it myself as a teenager. My father inherited an old Winchester lever action, and I learnt to strip it totally and rebuild it blindfolded. But i grew out if it.
I think that the anti-gunners here are arguing that is is possible and desirable to have society including yours without guns, not that we expect to actually happen.
Our country has a problem with criminals comitting crimes with firearms. Should we work to reduce the problem? Yes.
Our country has a problem with automobile deaths. Should we work to reduce the problem? Yes.
Our country has a problem with prescription medicine error related deaths. Should we work to reduce the problem? Yes.
Do we need to ban any of these things? NO!
It would also seem to the that 1st Amendment rights lead to abuse of 2nd Amendment rights and that we should seek to limit people's 1st Amendment rights as well. Where does it end?
I can't believe you're still blaming the gun for the crime. Primarily, our society has a problem with crime for the staggering economic and educational inequality we live in.
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are guns truly necessary and were they designed to shoot people in the face? no and yes
are automobiles necessary and were they designed to kill people? yes, pretty much and no
are prescription medicines necessary and were they designed to kill people for a laugh? yes and no
i think the guns helps... otherwise its just people pointing their fingers at each other and shouting *bang* and as yet i've never heard of anyone dying as a result of being shouted at
Well, then I guess you're suggesting the cops go without guns as well. Which leaves the military the only ones armed.
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how the fuck do you get that I'm "suggesting the cops go without guns as well"
and the military being the only ones armed? sounds just like the UK to me? big deal
Alright, so then I guess this is a world without guns altogether in your mind. Gotcha.
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Already like that in a number of countries... what's the issue here?
Name those countries.
I have an issue with dunkman's take on the evil of firearms. I think the gun is a nice little tool, is all. If it is only in the hands of the military and/or the cops then it is a tool for control, and that doesn't jibe with my way of thinking.
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If it is in the hands of the idiots and/or the neo-con right wingers then it is a tool for death, and that doesn't jibe with my way of thinking.
So, you're cool with geniuses and liberals owning guns?
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i dont actually need a gun though
Me either.:)
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edit: or for your animal rights activists.........to shoot a clay pigeon.
I'd like to get out to the country before this year is out and bang some pheasant, too.
edit: "bag" some pheasant.
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hunting with guns is still legal in Scotland.. i'm fine with that gun usage, its the non-trained, bought out of fear people i'm worried about
genuine huntsmen and stuff are usually very very good with their guns.. in terms of handling, safekeeping, training, etc..... i personally would like to go hunting one day in the Highlands of Scotland.. i think it'd be amazing