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  • Thecure
    Thecure Posts: 814
    Drowned Out wrote:
    Did you see the Harper interview carried by Sun Media yesterday?

    "....I'm here to obviously elect an agenda that will stop a carbon tax, and the way to do that is to elect a Conservative government. Don't defeat us then ask us to stop a carbon tax." Stephen Harper
    :mad:
    He is basically calling the election a referendum on the carbon tax :mad: .... the Cons won't fight it if they lose, cause the Canadian public won't have the appetite for another election...maybe you shouldn't have called one yet, jackass! grrrrr
    So...it comes down to....half a trillion on the military from the Cons, or the carbon tax from the Libs.

    Personally, I'd rather fight the carbon tax than worry about everything that Harper will do, even with a minority...like he said, no one wants another election...
    really, you don't have a problem with all with the bullshit that harper is proposing. hell, he just released his platform last week. how fuck up is that, he was teh one who decided to have the election.
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  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    In light of current events and Canada's role forcefully changing in Afghanistan (as per ongoing US interests), somehow I don't think it's going to be used for disaster relief...

    edit: and I don't think it's going to be the set amount and "phased in" over 20 years. They're looking for a green light here...just look at how underhanded Harper was about passing it.


    I don't know I have been on a few bases, and all the buildings all look super old and ready for replacement. When you combine that with the fact that a lot of the vehicles are running past their lifespan it makes sense that you would have invest a bunch of money in the military to keep everything from falling apart. I mean the soldiers give a lot, so why not give them good equipment to work with and decent places to live. I think a lot of people think when you hear that a bunch of money is being spent on the military automatically think that means all of the money is going to be spent on bombs, but that is not the case.
  • small town beck
    small town beck Posts: 6,691
    I can't believe Peter MacKay won his seat :mad: I really wanted to see him lose. NL went all Liberal and I think PEI is well on its way.

    I also read yesterday that Harper will be doing a carbon tax but calling it something else :rolleyes: Go figure... well I hope the anyone but Harper thing works. I doubt it will here in Alberta but a girl can dream :p

    First election I have voted in with a Leninist/Marxist Party on the ballot.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    I don't know I have been on a few bases, and all the buildings all look super old and ready for replacement. When you combine that with the fact that a lot of the vehicles are running past their lifespan it makes sense that you would have invest a bunch of money in the military to keep everything from falling apart. I mean the soldiers give a lot, so why not give them good equipment to work with and decent places to live. I think a lot of people think when you hear that a bunch of money is being spent on the military automatically think that means all of the money is going to be spent on bombs, but that is not the case.


    The atmosphere with regards to the Canadian military right now is all about changing gears in Afghanistan to a more aggressive one. In light of this, he could have just put it out there going on what you just said, and opened a honest discussion to the public about it, but he didn't. He snuck it in at an opportunistic moment without a lot of people knowing anything about it. Not good.
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,873
    looks like another conservative win.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canadavotes/
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    as of now cons 143, libs 77, BQ 49, NDP 37, Other 2.............shit, but nothing unexpected.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    demetrios wrote:
    looks like another conservative win.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canadavotes/

    They still have a minority govt...nothing really changed. Nice waste of 300 million.

    Way to go Harper!... :rolleyes:
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    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    it sucks to know my first time voting was during a ridiculous waste of money and didn't really mean anything.

    not like it means anything anyways, voting in bc :)

    harper is such an arrogant dolt, what a waste of time and money
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  • exhausted
    exhausted Posts: 6,638
    what a colossal exercise in futility.

    well, actually, this will get rid of dion so maybe not.
  • augustwest
    augustwest Posts: 739
    i'm reveling in the fact, that idiot harper didn't get his majority...after he decided to call this "questionable" election in the first place, breaking his own f'n rule, in hopes of getting a majority.

    HA!
  • Thecure
    Thecure Posts: 814
    so i give this 2 more years. Dion will be gone which means that the liberals will have another convection to pick a leader. so who will be the next liberal leader. i say that it is Bob Rae.
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  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    my thoughts based on various posts:

    * we need proportional representation
    * a carbon tax is the only we will address climate change - countries have imposed it (see sweden) and are doing great now
    * it is really sad that 37% of the population will get to run this country
    * definitely the youth are not engaged
    * watching the vote splitting was agonizing last nite ... seeing so many conservative seats won by such a small margin and seeing the "left" vote split 3 ways
  • Two Birds
    Two Birds Posts: 256
    I can officially complain about the Conservatives and the Liberals because I voted Green.
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  • appliedlesson
    appliedlesson Posts: 237
    Thecure wrote:
    so i give this 2 more years. Dion will be gone which means that the liberals will have another convection to pick a leader. so who will be the next liberal leader. i say that it is Bob Rae.

    as much as I admire Rae, I think it would be a huge mistake. Ontario hasn't forgotten him.
  • small town beck
    small town beck Posts: 6,691
    I can't believe that only 56 % actually bothered to vote. Shameful. Canadians have become way too apathetic. I mean clearly the election was futile but still get out there and VOTE!! The Liberals need to get Dion out and get a new leader, that might help. I am not even sure I want a Liberal government but I sure as hell don't want Harper. I can't believe people would still elect MacKay. He is such a useless and back stabbing coward.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    small town beck wrote:
    I can't believe that only 56 % actually bothered to vote. Shameful. Canadians have become way too apathetic. I mean clearly the election was futile but still get out there and VOTE!! The Liberals need to get Dion out and get a new leader, that might help. I am not even sure I want a Liberal government but I sure as hell don't want Harper. I can't believe people would still elect MacKay. He is such a useless and back stabbing coward.


    Reading through the conservative comments on the cbc most of them were "go blue!!!!!!!!!!!!! " and... "stay the course!!!!!"

    most were three word answers and resembling a trailer park rally beer contest, compared to the rest of the comments which actually formed sentences.
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    ndp break through in alberta!! ... edmonton-strathcona!!

    haha
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    what is interesting is that most municipal centres did not vote conservative ... this is ridiculous ... 38% of the people who don't even represent cities is dictating national policy ...

    seriously - why are the people in rural ridings voting conservative?? ... towns that have been hit hard with manufacturing - what is the motivation?
  • Thecure
    Thecure Posts: 814
    polaris wrote:
    what is interesting is that most municipal centres did not vote conservative ... this is ridiculous ... 38% of the people who don't even represent cities is dictating national policy ...

    seriously - why are the people in rural ridings voting conservative?? ... towns that have been hit hard with manufacturing - what is the motivation?

    becuase when people face hard times they rely on guns and religion. :)
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  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    Thecure wrote:
    becuase when people face hard times they rely on guns and religion. :)
    YEP.


    i'm in a rural riding... i was looking at a map on the bus to school today and everywhere south of the fraser river voted conservative.
    I know there are a LOT of bible thumpers where I live...

    in fact, the two people my age (haha, likely the only 2 other people my age who VOTED) that I know voted conservative were the 2 biggest, ignorantly, blazingly religious girls i know.

    you know, the type of people who are daft enough to buy into all the 'look at me pushing a baby stroller' campaign and go, "oh, Stephen Harper, he's a great Christian, and what a family man! He gets my vote!"

    unfortunately that's all they need and its their idea of being well-informed about what politicians are doing.
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