Did you see the Harper interview carried by Sun Media yesterday?
"....I'm here to obviously elect an agenda that will stop a carbon tax, and the way to do that is to elect a Conservative government. Don't defeat us then ask us to stop a carbon tax." Stephen Harper
:mad:
He is basically calling the election a referendum on the carbon tax :mad: .... the Cons won't fight it if they lose, cause the Canadian public won't have the appetite for another election...maybe you shouldn't have called one yet, jackass! grrrrr
So...it comes down to....half a trillion on the military from the Cons, or the carbon tax from the Libs.
Personally, I'd rather fight the carbon tax than worry about everything that Harper will do, even with a minority...like he said, no one wants another election...
really, you don't have a problem with all with the bullshit that harper is proposing. hell, he just released his platform last week. how fuck up is that, he was teh one who decided to have the election.
People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
In light of current events and Canada's role forcefully changing in Afghanistan (as per ongoing US interests), somehow I don't think it's going to be used for disaster relief...
edit: and I don't think it's going to be the set amount and "phased in" over 20 years. They're looking for a green light here...just look at how underhanded Harper was about passing it.
I don't know I have been on a few bases, and all the buildings all look super old and ready for replacement. When you combine that with the fact that a lot of the vehicles are running past their lifespan it makes sense that you would have invest a bunch of money in the military to keep everything from falling apart. I mean the soldiers give a lot, so why not give them good equipment to work with and decent places to live. I think a lot of people think when you hear that a bunch of money is being spent on the military automatically think that means all of the money is going to be spent on bombs, but that is not the case.
I can't believe Peter MacKay won his seat :mad: I really wanted to see him lose. NL went all Liberal and I think PEI is well on its way.
I also read yesterday that Harper will be doing a carbon tax but calling it something else :rolleyes: Go figure... well I hope the anyone but Harper thing works. I doubt it will here in Alberta but a girl can dream
First election I have voted in with a Leninist/Marxist Party on the ballot.
I don't know I have been on a few bases, and all the buildings all look super old and ready for replacement. When you combine that with the fact that a lot of the vehicles are running past their lifespan it makes sense that you would have invest a bunch of money in the military to keep everything from falling apart. I mean the soldiers give a lot, so why not give them good equipment to work with and decent places to live. I think a lot of people think when you hear that a bunch of money is being spent on the military automatically think that means all of the money is going to be spent on bombs, but that is not the case.
The atmosphere with regards to the Canadian military right now is all about changing gears in Afghanistan to a more aggressive one. In light of this, he could have just put it out there going on what you just said, and opened a honest discussion to the public about it, but he didn't. He snuck it in at an opportunistic moment without a lot of people knowing anything about it. Not good.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
They still have a minority govt...nothing really changed. Nice waste of 300 million.
Way to go Harper!... :rolleyes:
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
i'm reveling in the fact, that idiot harper didn't get his majority...after he decided to call this "questionable" election in the first place, breaking his own f'n rule, in hopes of getting a majority.
so i give this 2 more years. Dion will be gone which means that the liberals will have another convection to pick a leader. so who will be the next liberal leader. i say that it is Bob Rae.
People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
* we need proportional representation
* a carbon tax is the only we will address climate change - countries have imposed it (see sweden) and are doing great now
* it is really sad that 37% of the population will get to run this country
* definitely the youth are not engaged
* watching the vote splitting was agonizing last nite ... seeing so many conservative seats won by such a small margin and seeing the "left" vote split 3 ways
so i give this 2 more years. Dion will be gone which means that the liberals will have another convection to pick a leader. so who will be the next liberal leader. i say that it is Bob Rae.
as much as I admire Rae, I think it would be a huge mistake. Ontario hasn't forgotten him.
I can't believe that only 56 % actually bothered to vote. Shameful. Canadians have become way too apathetic. I mean clearly the election was futile but still get out there and VOTE!! The Liberals need to get Dion out and get a new leader, that might help. I am not even sure I want a Liberal government but I sure as hell don't want Harper. I can't believe people would still elect MacKay. He is such a useless and back stabbing coward.
I can't believe that only 56 % actually bothered to vote. Shameful. Canadians have become way too apathetic. I mean clearly the election was futile but still get out there and VOTE!! The Liberals need to get Dion out and get a new leader, that might help. I am not even sure I want a Liberal government but I sure as hell don't want Harper. I can't believe people would still elect MacKay. He is such a useless and back stabbing coward.
Reading through the conservative comments on the cbc most of them were "go blue!!!!!!!!!!!!! " and... "stay the course!!!!!"
most were three word answers and resembling a trailer park rally beer contest, compared to the rest of the comments which actually formed sentences.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
what is interesting is that most municipal centres did not vote conservative ... this is ridiculous ... 38% of the people who don't even represent cities is dictating national policy ...
seriously - why are the people in rural ridings voting conservative?? ... towns that have been hit hard with manufacturing - what is the motivation?
what is interesting is that most municipal centres did not vote conservative ... this is ridiculous ... 38% of the people who don't even represent cities is dictating national policy ...
seriously - why are the people in rural ridings voting conservative?? ... towns that have been hit hard with manufacturing - what is the motivation?
becuase when people face hard times they rely on guns and religion.
People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
becuase when people face hard times they rely on guns and religion.
YEP.
i'm in a rural riding... i was looking at a map on the bus to school today and everywhere south of the fraser river voted conservative.
I know there are a LOT of bible thumpers where I live...
in fact, the two people my age (haha, likely the only 2 other people my age who VOTED) that I know voted conservative were the 2 biggest, ignorantly, blazingly religious girls i know.
you know, the type of people who are daft enough to buy into all the 'look at me pushing a baby stroller' campaign and go, "oh, Stephen Harper, he's a great Christian, and what a family man! He gets my vote!"
unfortunately that's all they need and its their idea of being well-informed about what politicians are doing.
i'm in a rural riding... i was looking at a map on the bus to school today and everywhere south of the fraser river voted conservative.
I know there are a LOT of bible thumpers where I live...
in fact, the two people my age (haha, likely the only 2 other people my age who VOTED) that I know voted conservative were the 2 biggest, ignorantly, blazingly religious girls i know.
you know, the type of people who are daft enough to buy into all the 'look at me pushing a baby stroller' campaign and go, "oh, Stephen Harper, he's a great Christian, and what a family man! He gets my vote!"
unfortunately that's all they need and its their idea of being well-informed about what politicians are doing.
where are all the pot smoking hippies when ya need them?
i'm in a rural riding... i was looking at a map on the bus to school today and everywhere south of the fraser river voted conservative.
I know there are a LOT of bible thumpers where I live...
in fact, the two people my age (haha, likely the only 2 other people my age who VOTED) that I know voted conservative were the 2 biggest, ignorantly, blazingly religious girls i know.
you know, the type of people who are daft enough to buy into all the 'look at me pushing a baby stroller' campaign and go, "oh, Stephen Harper, he's a great Christian, and what a family man! He gets my vote!"
unfortunately that's all they need and its their idea of being well-informed about what politicians are doing.
i personally think that you are going to see an american type country very soon, with teh small towns voting conservative while teh big cities voting liberal/ndp/green.
People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
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coachchris
Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 749
Virtually nothing changed at all, so I agree it was a huge waste of money.
56% voter turnout is beyond embarrassing :(
All in all.....living in Alberta, my vote really meant squat. It was going to be PC and has been since I believe 96 *sigh*
Adolescence in essence is all about trust.
Leaving is for the answering machine.
* we need proportional representation
* a carbon tax is the only we will address climate change - countries have imposed it (see sweden) and are doing great now
* it is really sad that 37% of the population will get to run this country
* definitely the youth are not engaged
* watching the vote splitting was agonizing last nite ... seeing so many conservative seats won by such a small margin and seeing the "left" vote split 3 ways
We definitely need proportional representation. Green had nearly 7% of the vote and 0 representation. This is a travesty.
And yes, I was thinking of starting a faux-ultra-right conservative party to steal votes away from the blue bastards!
what is interesting is that most municipal centres did not vote conservative ... this is ridiculous ... 38% of the people who don't even represent cities is dictating national policy ...
seriously - why are the people in rural ridings voting conservative?? ... towns that have been hit hard with manufacturing - what is the motivation?
I'm guessing (and I'd put money on it) that it's an educational issue. My riding was blue. The vast majority are fed by what the media tells them to think, and they know little about the real issues facing foreign policy (which the media glosses right over), and are being merrily led along the garden path largely unconcerned.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
We definitely need proportional representation. Green had nearly 7% of the vote and 0 representation. This is a travesty.
And yes, I was thinking of starting a faux-ultra-right conservative party to steal votes away from the blue bastards!
Proportional representation, why even bother when 44% of the people are to lazy to even bother to show up and vote. If the green party had gotten those 44% to vote for them they would be the in party power. It seems to be the people who don't vote who complain the most, so why bother rewarding the lazy for something that is ridiculously easy to begin with.
I'm guessing (and I'd put money on it) that it's an educational issue. My riding was blue. The vast majority are fed by what the media tells them to think, and they know little about the real issues facing foreign policy (which the media glosses right over), and are being merrily led along the garden path largely unconcerned.
Please that is a huge stereotype (you might as well be saying all Canadians live in Igloos), I am highly educated and I voted conservative. I reviewed all of the issues for all of the parties. Greens and NDP were all way to crazy and impossible, Liberals and Conservative were pretty much the same on a lot of issues.
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- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
I don't know I have been on a few bases, and all the buildings all look super old and ready for replacement. When you combine that with the fact that a lot of the vehicles are running past their lifespan it makes sense that you would have invest a bunch of money in the military to keep everything from falling apart. I mean the soldiers give a lot, so why not give them good equipment to work with and decent places to live. I think a lot of people think when you hear that a bunch of money is being spent on the military automatically think that means all of the money is going to be spent on bombs, but that is not the case.
I also read yesterday that Harper will be doing a carbon tax but calling it something else :rolleyes: Go figure... well I hope the anyone but Harper thing works. I doubt it will here in Alberta but a girl can dream
First election I have voted in with a Leninist/Marxist Party on the ballot.
The atmosphere with regards to the Canadian military right now is all about changing gears in Afghanistan to a more aggressive one. In light of this, he could have just put it out there going on what you just said, and opened a honest discussion to the public about it, but he didn't. He snuck it in at an opportunistic moment without a lot of people knowing anything about it. Not good.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canadavotes/
They still have a minority govt...nothing really changed. Nice waste of 300 million.
Way to go Harper!... :rolleyes:
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
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not like it means anything anyways, voting in bc
harper is such an arrogant dolt, what a waste of time and money
well, actually, this will get rid of dion so maybe not.
HA!
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
* we need proportional representation
* a carbon tax is the only we will address climate change - countries have imposed it (see sweden) and are doing great now
* it is really sad that 37% of the population will get to run this country
* definitely the youth are not engaged
* watching the vote splitting was agonizing last nite ... seeing so many conservative seats won by such a small margin and seeing the "left" vote split 3 ways
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Too many shows but never enough!
These guys are the fruit of the earth...
as much as I admire Rae, I think it would be a huge mistake. Ontario hasn't forgotten him.
Reading through the conservative comments on the cbc most of them were "go blue!!!!!!!!!!!!! " and... "stay the course!!!!!"
most were three word answers and resembling a trailer park rally beer contest, compared to the rest of the comments which actually formed sentences.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
haha
seriously - why are the people in rural ridings voting conservative?? ... towns that have been hit hard with manufacturing - what is the motivation?
becuase when people face hard times they rely on guns and religion.
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
i'm in a rural riding... i was looking at a map on the bus to school today and everywhere south of the fraser river voted conservative.
I know there are a LOT of bible thumpers where I live...
in fact, the two people my age (haha, likely the only 2 other people my age who VOTED) that I know voted conservative were the 2 biggest, ignorantly, blazingly religious girls i know.
you know, the type of people who are daft enough to buy into all the 'look at me pushing a baby stroller' campaign and go, "oh, Stephen Harper, he's a great Christian, and what a family man! He gets my vote!"
unfortunately that's all they need and its their idea of being well-informed about what politicians are doing.
where are all the pot smoking hippies when ya need them?
That is kind of offensive to actual folks in a trailer park rally beer contest.
i personally think that you are going to see an american type country very soon, with teh small towns voting conservative while teh big cities voting liberal/ndp/green.
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
56% voter turnout is beyond embarrassing :(
All in all.....living in Alberta, my vote really meant squat. It was going to be PC and has been since I believe 96 *sigh*
Leaving is for the answering machine.
ndp broke thru in edmonton
We definitely need proportional representation. Green had nearly 7% of the vote and 0 representation. This is a travesty.
And yes, I was thinking of starting a faux-ultra-right conservative party to steal votes away from the blue bastards!
I'm guessing (and I'd put money on it) that it's an educational issue. My riding was blue. The vast majority are fed by what the media tells them to think, and they know little about the real issues facing foreign policy (which the media glosses right over), and are being merrily led along the garden path largely unconcerned.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
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Proportional representation, why even bother when 44% of the people are to lazy to even bother to show up and vote. If the green party had gotten those 44% to vote for them they would be the in party power. It seems to be the people who don't vote who complain the most, so why bother rewarding the lazy for something that is ridiculously easy to begin with.
Please that is a huge stereotype (you might as well be saying all Canadians live in Igloos), I am highly educated and I voted conservative. I reviewed all of the issues for all of the parties. Greens and NDP were all way to crazy and impossible, Liberals and Conservative were pretty much the same on a lot of issues.