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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    soulsinging wrote:
    so obvious he's completely incapable of explaining it. becos you dont know what the fuck you mean any more than we do. all you can do is paste more quotes to obscure the issue.

    I've tried to explain it for several threads now.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    soulsinging wrote:
    this have anything to do with that truck that hit you?

    Uh no.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • IWillLiveForeve
    IWillLiveForeve Posts: 427
    Ahnimus wrote:
    It's sunday here, most people do their grocery shopping on the weekends, saturday is for drinking, sunday is for shopping :)

    'sunday is for shopping'? If you are a male, I want you to turn in your Guy Card. Seriously. That is just bottom drawer. Sundays are for football. Shopping is for the ladies. Bitch.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    IWillLiveForeve wrote:
    'sunday is for shopping'? If you are a male, I want you to turn in your Guy Card. Seriously. That is just bottom drawer. Sundays are for football. Shopping is for the ladies. Bitch.

    Football is such a lame sport. Shopping is for responsible people that don't rely on others to do their chores.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • IWillLiveForeve
    IWillLiveForeve Posts: 427
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Football is such a lame sport. Shopping is for responsible people that don't rely on others to do their chores.

    "You...you...I want to party with you, cowboy. The way you and you're friend tried to make it with that cow!? Forget about it."

    Bill Murray, Stripes
  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    IWillLiveForeve wrote:
    'sunday is for shopping'? If you are a male, I want you to turn in your Guy Card. Seriously. That is just bottom drawer. Sundays are for football. Shopping is for the ladies. Bitch.


    Ha ha. I think he was talking about groceries, not mall shopping. Boys have to eat too! But I agree with the Sundays are for football part.;)
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
    ~Albert Einstein
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    baraka wrote:
    Wow! How did you know I was going grocery shopping? What external stimuli triggered your brain and brought you to that conclusion? ;)


    hmmm...i went grocery shopping tonight, too! :eek: are we in the univeral mind? are you turnin keys, are you settin ppl free?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    El_Kabong wrote:
    hmmm...i went grocery shopping tonight, too! :eek: are we in the univeral mind? are you turnin keys, are you settin ppl free?

    Ohh, it's getting spooky around here.....;)
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
    ~Albert Einstein
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    El_Kabong wrote:
    an interesting quote i found:

    "At our best we beings are much, much grander than merely rational; at our best we transcend rationality while incorporating its procedures into our lower levels of functioning. This is why computers will never replace people, for they are condensed to be rational, and hence very limited."

    I'm curious how whomever said this arrived at such a conclusion.
  • IWillLiveForeve
    IWillLiveForeve Posts: 427
    farfromglorified wrote:
    I'm curious how whomever said this arrived at such a conclusion.

    Probably by just sitting, having a cup of coffee, and watching people's behavior for a few days.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    IWillLiveForeve wrote:
    Probably by just sitting, having a cup of coffee, and watching people's behavior for a few days.

    Couldn't a computer do that?
  • IWillLiveForeve
    IWillLiveForeve Posts: 427
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Couldn't a computer do that?

    No. You really have to have first person observation to really appreciate the stupidity of man. Computers can't do that.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    There are computers that interacts socially, here is one
    http://www.ai.mit.edu/projects/sociable/videos.html
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    IWillLiveForeve wrote:
    No. You really have to have first person observation to really appreciate the stupidity of man. Computers can't do that.

    Of course they can. Stupidity implies a rational standard. Computers are very good at measuring things against rational standards.
  • IWillLiveForeve
    IWillLiveForeve Posts: 427
    Ahnimus wrote:
    There are computers that interacts socially, here is one
    http://www.ai.mit.edu/projects/sociable/videos.html

    That is not 'social interaction'. Incidentally, that wasn't even real grammar.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    IWillLiveForeve wrote:
    That is not 'social interaction'. Incidentally, that wasn't even real grammar.

    I didn't know you were an expert on such things.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • IWillLiveForeve
    IWillLiveForeve Posts: 427
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I didn't know you were an expert on such things.

    I did.
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    farfromglorified wrote:
    I'm curious how whomever said this arrived at such a conclusion.


    http://www.johntaylorgatto.com
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Of course they can. Stupidity implies a rational standard. Computers are very good at measuring things against rational standards.

    can you have an empathetic conversation with a computer? dont think so. a computer cannot handle any new circumstances it has not been programmed to confront. humans frequently adapt to new situations and can think creatively on their feet to respond to them.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    El_Kabong wrote:
    an interesting quote i found:

    "At our best we beings are much, much grander than merely rational; at our best we transcend rationality while incorporating its procedures into our lower levels of functioning. This is why computers will never replace people, for they are condensed to be rational, and hence very limited."

    every decision i have ever made in my adult life has been based on feeling. and every time i've dealt with the fallout. now i'm in a situation where i am being forced to use logic and i hate it. and i won't do it. thinking numbs my body. but then again so does feeling, but it a different kind of numb.
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say

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