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Random 10c seating is a GREAT idea

my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
edited October 2008 in The Porch
is a great idea... i really hope the band goes in this direction for future tours... i am sure it sucks for the band to see the same 100 faces upfront every night, it probabaly sucks the energy out of the show a little for them... not to mention the folks up front are used to being upfront and they dont bring their a-game energy to every show... let some noobs get up there and freak out

everyshow i go to with my 10c i am in the same general area, and i would like it to be mixed up... i think it would be awesome to get random tickets and open that envelope before the show to discover where you are...


i think it is a great idea and would add alot of evergy to the show, especially up front... it would also expand interest in joining the 10c if noobs had a random chance at amazing seats...

i am not suprised at all that Eddie is doing this for his shows... and i think it is a sign of things to come... hopefully
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    Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,479
    and what is your number
    six digits and begins with a 3?

    Its not a great idea.

    Edit:
    Its a great idea for any shows I dont go to!
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    Kel VarnsenKel Varnsen Posts: 1,951
    On the flip side random seating also gives a scalper who bought a membership a month before a tour was announced, a much better chance of having really top seats to sell, compared to a senority system.

    That said I do like the idea of a "golden ticket" type situation that has been proposed before where one random set of tickets is front row seats. That way it is not enough people moving up to really push anyone back, but at the same time, everyone has a shot to be at the front.
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    jimed14jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    my2hands wrote:
    is a great idea... i really hope the band goes in this direction for future tours... i am sure it sucks for the band to see the same 100 faces upfront every night, it probabaly sucks the energy out of the show a little for them... not to mention the folks up front are used to being upfront and they dont bring their a-game energy to every show... let some noobs get up there and freak out

    everyshow i go to with my 10c i am in the same general area, and i would like it to be mixed up... i think it would be awesome to get random tickets and open that envelope before the show to discover where you are...


    i think it is a great idea and would add alot of evergy to the show, especially up front... it would also expand interest in joining the 10c if noobs had a random chance at amazing seats...

    i am not suprised at all that Eddie is doing this for his shows... and i think it is a sign of things to come... hopefully

    I'm a pretty high number only being in the 10c for a few years (despite how long I've been a fan) ... While I would be all for this from a selfish stand point, I think this would be an enormous slap in the face to the long time clubbers.

    The only thing that may work ... if there are multiple shows in the same city ... have one show be seating by senority and the other show be random. If there's only one show ... make it by seniority. I think that would be a good idea to mix it up a bit. (Will probably see resistance to this regardless)

    Then again, if they keep playing the Civic center here in SF ... no worries, it's GA! Which me and my 300k number really appreciated.
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    memememe Posts: 4,693
    Get_Right wrote:
    and what is your number
    six digits and begins with a 3?

    Its not a great idea.

    Edit:
    Its a great idea for any shows I dont go to!


    Yep, great idea :p
    ... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
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    smg9779smg9779 Posts: 235
    Great idea for people with a crappy 10C membership #. But I would feel slighted if I have been a paid member since the mid-90s.
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    Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,479
    jimed14 wrote:
    I think this would be an enormous slap in the face to the long time clubbers.

    exactly-thank you!

    I am in favor of giving a FEW PAIRS of choice seats to those with higher numbers at each show. And I mean really high numbers, like start at the back

    Everyone else should have to wait, like the rest of us did.
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    why is that a slap in the face?

    because you can't sit up front at every single show? really? thats just being spoiled. I dont think its really owed for being a longtime fan.

    i think having the occasional seniority based show would be cool. like the multiple shows in one city idea someone had earlier.

    or half and half
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,314
    no no no not another seating fucking thread why ,i have no answers i joined when i joined that is all it's the same as when someone states it's not my fault i was born when i was born ,its the same for me i joined when i did because i was fortunate enough to be that is all ,there is no rhyme or reason ......
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    Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,479
    MrSmith wrote:
    why is that a slap in the face?

    because you can't sit up front at every single show? really? thats just being spoiled. I dont think its really owed for being a longtime fan.

    i think having the occasional seniority based show would be cool. like the multiple shows in one city idea someone had earlier.


    Because we have been paying the membership fee longer ad patiently waiting for our time "up front."

    Why would a new member be entitled to a privilege that has always been earned through years of supporting the band and the fan club?
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    Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,479
    no no no not another seating fucking thread why ,i have no answers i joined when i joined that is all it's the same as when someone states it's not my fault i was born when i was born ,its the same for me i joined when i did because i was fortunate enough to be that is all ,there is no rhyme or reason ......

    coming up next:

    I have a solution for the 10c ticket problem, home town shows!


    :D
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    I think that its lame that they have seats on the floor anyways. We are all older and I don't think we would crush each other on the floor like its the early 90's.

    Have all 10C seats be GA and there will be no complaints. If you don't want to be on the floor there should be able to request side stage seats.
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,314
    Get_Right wrote:
    coming up next:

    I have a solution for the 10c ticket problem, home town shows!


    :D


    never mind that answer the sushi ?? he he he :)
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    uglybabouglybabo Posts: 518
    I still like the idea of the first two rows being random; this only moves the old-timers back 2 rows and gives everyone a chance to be up front...
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    BeerBaron wrote:
    That is far from the truth. The floor at the Wembley show year was very rough.

    Yea but everyone knows its rougher overseas.

    American crowds are more laid back. AKA stoned. hehehe
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Get_Right wrote:
    entitled

    thats how your coming off...


    i have sat 5th row and i have sat in the lawn... both were great experiences...

    i guess people are just greedy by nature...
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Yea but everyone knows its rougher overseas.

    American crowds are more laid back. AKA stoned. hehehe


    thats because it is the same 100 people up front every night... bringing lame energy
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    redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    BeerBaron wrote:
    That is far from the truth. The floor at the Wembley show year was very rough.
    Wasn't that bad.... Been to lots of shows which were way rougher. PJ is quite tame compared to some other bands!
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    New people need the chance to be up front.

    I dont understand how it is a slap in the face to long time ten clubbers.

    The fact remains, even with random seating, you will still have priority seating to the show. Better seats then one would find with ticketmaster. I guess thats just not enough for some people, they need to count Ed's nosehairs.

    I've been a member since 05 and have generally had great seats. I dont understand how people can think they deserve to be in the first 3 rows at every single show because you've sent in 15 bucks a year for 10 years.

    Stop being so selfish, and let the n00bs show you how to rock out in the front row. (I cant understand the people that just stand still, looking impatient, just waiting for something like "No Way" to make the show "exciting")
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    cc10106cc10106 Posts: 385
    GA sucks and is dangerous. If they headline ACL i'll prob skip it due to the first reason. Not to mention some people will inevitably get hurt. I think shaking things up just a little in the seating department couldn't hurt. But it needs to be done in a way to not alienate old school members, yet allow some newER members a chance to see the band from a reasonable distance. By 'newer' i don't particularly mean people who just signed up this year. I've been a member for 5 or 6 years and have never seen them in the first 20 rows. Not that I ever had any problem with my seats, and it's not like they TOUR HERE anyway. Bastards. Anyway, if I was used to getting to see them from 10 rows away or closer, I'd certainly be willing to take a reserved seat further back every now and then. Especially if the band was playing multiple nights in one city.
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    Kel VarnsenKel Varnsen Posts: 1,951
    New people need the chance to be up front.
    I dont understand how it is a slap in the face to long time ten clubbers.

    My question then is, how do you prevent a scalper who only buys a membership on years when there is a tour rumor, from having access to the front row?
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    Solat13Solat13 Philadelphia Posts: 6,996
    If there was no seniority, what would be the incentive to keep membership current in non-touring years? Just playing Devil's Advocate here.

    I mean all you'd be missing would be the newsletters and when you rejoined ten club you could request a copy of any Christmas singles in stock you missed in your absence for the cost of shipping per their current policy.
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    My question then is, how do you prevent a scalper who only buys a membership on years when there is a tour rumor, from having access to the front row?

    What Bruce Springsteen does..

    Credit Card holder picks up tickets, get a wristband at the window.
    2004 - 10/1, 10/11
    2005 - 9/15, 9/16, 9/30, 10/1, 10/3
    2006 - 5/5, 5/12, 5/13, 5/27, 5/28, 5/30, 6/1, 6/3, 6/23, 7/22, 7/23, 12/2
    2007 - 6/27, 8/3
    2008 - 6/14, 6/19, 6/20, 6/22, 6/24, 6/25, 6/27, 6/28, 6/30, 7/1
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    Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,479
    never mind that answer the sushi ?? he he he :)


    NICE!!!!!
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    pulaskipulaski Posts: 259
    Solat13 wrote:
    If there was no seniority, what would be the incentive to keep membership current in non-touring years? Just playing Devil's Advocate here.

    I mean all you'd be missing would be the newsletters and when you rejoined ten club you could request a copy of any Christmas singles in stock you missed in your absence for the cost of shipping per their current policy.


    getting tickets is not the only reason to keep/have your membership. and if you know your history, they play something every year. some years less than others but you never know what they are gonna pull out of their hat. so its always a good idea to keep it current
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    PureandEasyPureandEasy Posts: 5,779
    the only reason they're doing this for Ed's show is because it's not a PJ show and they're not going to put in the effort to try and put 200 or so tickets in seniority order

    that's the only reason

    they will not change the senority of fan club tickets for PJ shows - it's been their thing all along
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    My question then is, how do you prevent a scalper who only buys a membership on years when there is a tour rumor, from having access to the front row?

    Well one small counter argument is you still can't pick up your tickets until a few hours before the show - where usually the market has substaniialy dropped. Usually the scalper makes his money with premium tickets such as this shopping them online or via ebay for months in advance. Also, if he is charging a high price for premium seats its likely a die hard (though one with some disposable income) that would throw done $500 or whatever for a good pair. I spent $700 for a pair 4-5 years ago - dead center - first row - 7/11/03 - some of the best money I have ever spent.

    Also, for people that say they never have good seats - travel to some remote places sometimes works......I never been within 20-25 rows of the front in Boston but my 10C # got me 3rd-6th row on the Canada tour in some of the more remote places - St. John's, Halifax, Edmonton and Calgary.

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    uglybabouglybabo Posts: 518
    My question then is, how do you prevent a scalper who only buys a membership on years when there is a tour rumor, from having access to the front row?

    Do what Springsteen did for the first ten rows for his shows - when you pick up the tickets at will call, they put a wristband on you; to get into the show you have to have both the ticket and the wristband.

    Even though there weren't physical tickets this is how they handled the Vic.
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    redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    BeerBaron wrote:
    It was bad enought that if you didn't feel like pushing and fighting just to keep your feet on the ground, you couldn't stand within the first 20 or so rows of people. And if it gets worse, that just further proves my point :)
    Wimp! ;) I was second/front row. PJ shows aren't really rough compared to 'heavier' bands where there is a lot of moshing, etc. I love GA standing.
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    Solat13Solat13 Philadelphia Posts: 6,996
    pulaski wrote:
    getting tickets is not the only reason to keep/have your membership. and if you know your history, they play something every year. some years less than others but you never know what they are gonna pull out of their hat. so its always a good idea to keep it current

    Of course getting tickets is the only reason the majority of us are members. If ten club didn't supply a vehicle to get tickets the majority of members would quit.
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    cc10106 wrote:
    GA sucks and is dangerous. If they headline ACL i'll prob skip it due to the first reason. Not to mention some people will inevitably get hurt. I think shaking things up just a little in the seating department couldn't hurt. But it needs to be done in a way to not alienate old school members, yet allow some newer members a chance to see the band from a reasonable distance. If I was used to getting to see them from 10 rows away or closer, I'd certainly be willing to take a reserved seat further back every now and then. Especially if the band was playing multiple nights in one city.

    It's not that hard to avoid commotion at GA shows. I went to Rage at Coachella with my GF last year and we were fine. We just had to move around a couple of times to find a comfortable spot.

    I personally feel seats on the floor drain the energy from the crowd because there is no room to move around. Every time I jump up I hit my friggin knee on the chair in front of me. I think i get more bruises from hitting my knees on the chair then I do in a pit. I'm also 6'3 so I need more room then the average Jammer.

    That's why my idea would call for people who don't want to be GA to be 1st row side stage. Those are often the best seats other then the first 3 rows anyways.
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