Name the BEST 5 bands out there today

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  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    facepollution wrote:
    The claim that the "vast majority of songs sound the same" is utterly ridiculous, Supermassive Black Hole sounds nothing like Hysteria, which sounds nothing like Plug in Baby, which sounds nothing like Apocalypse please etc etc. I expected a better argument than that from you!!!! Why do people have such a problem with saying, it just doesn't float my boat?!
    Because the reason why it doesn't float my boat is the similarities in their stuff. The keys in New Born seem to crop up in a ton of their songs with barely any variation. I'm not saying ALL their songs sound the same, I'm saying a lot do. Considering that sound doesn't float my boat, I don't want to hear it a couple of times every album.

    Also, Knights of Cydonia was the most ridiculous song of 2006. Radiohead meets Queen is a horrific idea and one that should never have reached fruition.

    Just my opinion.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    fowls wrote:
    Whoah whoah whoah! I didn't mean to start an argument here! Just meant that people shouldn't say a band is "Unquestionably" great live (or unquestionably anything else for that matter) when other people have obviously questioned their live show. It's selling opinion as fact, and that's bad bad bad!

    Well yeah I see where you are coming from, but if you strip it down to what a live show is, what would you expect from an amazing band? A huge catalog of popular songs? Stage presence? Excitement (gulp?!), A high level of musicianship? I'm sure it's entirely possible that there are performers out there that I don;t like, but that they are amazing at what they do. Muse are that type of band in my opinion. You might not like their flamboyant style, the singers voice, the type of music etc, BUT that doesn't mean that they are not amazing at what they do.
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    PJ
    MMJ (Tennessee fire is pure gold)
    KOL
    Black Keys
    Yeah Yeah Yeahs
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Because the reason why it doesn't float my boat is the similarities in their stuff. The keys in New Born seem to crop up in a ton of their songs with barely any variation. I'm not saying ALL their songs sound the same, I'm saying a lot do. Considering that sound doesn't float my boat, I don't want to hear it a couple of times every album.

    Also, Knights of Cydonia was the most ridiculous song of 2006. Radiohead meets Queen is a horrific idea and one that should never have reached fruition.

    Just my opinion.

    Where do the keys in New Born crop up in other songs? I genuinely don't think I've noticed that. And by a lot, really what are you saying? I don't think any of the singles they've released have been particularly similar.

    Knights of Cydonia rocks with concrete balls! Do you ever wonder if sometimes you just don't 'get' something? I know I do, but I'll at least give credit where it is due for musicianship and stage presence and stuff. I know plenty of people find bands like Tool and Radiohead to be boring, but you can't really fault their musicianship.
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    facepollution wrote:
    Well yeah I see where you are coming from, but if you strip it down to what a live show is, what would you expect from an amazing band? A huge catalog of popular songs? Stage presence? Excitement (gulp?!), A high level of musicianship? I'm sure it's entirely possible that there are performers out there that I don;t like, but that they are amazing at what they do. Muse are that type of band in my opinion. You might not like their flamboyant style, the singers voice, the type of music etc, BUT that doesn't mean that they are not amazing at what they do.

    I'm gonna join the crowd here, and say that Muse aren't my Cup-o-Tea. I'll give you that they're good at what they do, but I feel it's pretty superficial - all their music has a kind of cold, metallic sheen, like it's been produced to within an inch of its life, and their stage show is geared more towards spectacle than substance.

    More petty personal reasons to dislike them include the (super)massive overhype machine that the British press ran for them over the last two years, and the fact that Matt Bellamy inhales like an asthmatic donkey in between lines.:p
    Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
  • Pauk
    Pauk Posts: 1,084
    facepollution wrote:
    Well yeah I see where you are coming from, but if you strip it down to what a live show is, what would you expect from an amazing band? A huge catalog of popular songs? Stage presence? Excitement (gulp?!), A high level of musicianship? I'm sure it's entirely possible that there are performers out there that I don;t like, but that they are amazing at what they do. Muse are that type of band in my opinion. You might not like their flamboyant style, the singers voice, the type of music etc, BUT that doesn't mean that they are not amazing at what they do.
    But it does. If I don't like several aspects of the live show I won't be amazed and I won't class it as amazing... There is no fact in music, only opinions. That's why it's an art and not a science. There's no point arguing over it.
    Paul
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  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    I'm gonna join the crowd here, and say that Muse aren't my Cup-o-Tea. I'll give you that they're good at what they do, but I feel it's pretty superficial - all their music has a kind of cold, metallic sheen, like it's been produced to within an inch of its life, and their stage show is geared more towards spectacle than substance.

    More petty personal reasons to dislike them include the (super)massive overhype machine that the British press ran for them over the last two years, and the fac that Matt Bellamy inhales like an asthmatic donkey in between lines.:p

    Haha! I know what you mean about the inhaling!

    I also get where you are coming from in terms of them seeming 'cold' - they would never be one of the bands that I would listen to if I was feeling overly emotional, but they do have their place. Sometimes music doesn't have to be about personal stuff, sometimes I think it can just exist for the sake of art. I think that's why the press leapt all over them, because they are doing something that nobody else is really doing at the moment. One of the things I really like about them is that they are gloriously overblown, and that their ambition is far beyond what most bands these days have. To me that is exciting, and what's more, they went on to prove everyone wrong when they were originally dismissed as a Radiohead clone.
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    fowls wrote:
    But it does. If I don't like several aspects of the live show I won't be amazed and I won't class it as amazing... There is no fact in music, only opinions. That's why it's an art and not a science. There's no point arguing over it.

    Bah, credit where it's due. Even just for their musicianship.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    facepollution wrote:
    Where do the keys in New Born crop up in other songs? I genuinely don't think I've noticed that. And by a lot, really what are you saying? I don't think any of the singles they've released have been particularly similar.

    Knights of Cydonia rocks with concrete balls! Do you ever wonder if sometimes you just don't 'get' something? I know I do, but I'll at least give credit where it is due for musicianship and stage presence and stuff. I know plenty of people find bands like Tool and Radiohead to be boring, but you can't really fault their musicianship.
    I'm not questioning their musicianship at all. CLEARLY they are capable musicians. I am questioning whether or not they make good music. The notion that some music fans have that music is entirely subjective and people can't say it's bad is just rubbish. I think Muse are boring, just as you think they aren't. To me, they ARE bad. It's not that I don't get them, it's that I don't like what I get from them. You do. That's fine.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Also, Knights of Cydonia was the most ridiculous song of 2006. Radiohead meets Queen is a horrific idea and one that should never have reached fruition..

    I've been saying this EXACT same thing to a lot of people for a long time. I mean, GALLOPING HORSES?..... for fuck's sake people.
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    facepollution wrote:
    I know plenty of people find bands like Tool and Radiohead to be boring, but you can't really fault their musicianship.

    I can't fault people who do Rubik's cubes for fun for their patience, just as I can't fault Muse's musicianship. :)
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    I'm not questioning their musicianship at all. CLEARLY they are capable musicians. I am questioning whether or not they make good music. The notion that some music fans have that music is entirely subjective and people can't say it's bad is just rubbish. I think Muse are boring, just as you think they aren't. To me, they ARE bad. It's not that I don't get them, it's that I don't like what I get from them. You do. That's fine.

    Cool, so long as you aren't knocking the musicianship.

    I do kind of disagree with you about the notion of 'getting' something. When I think how my musical tastes have evolved over the years, I'm very open to the idea that music can catch you out when you least expect it. The only time I really tend to fully dismiss a band is when they are musically stunted shite like Fall Out Boy.
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    facepollution wrote:
    Cool, so long as you aren't knocking the musicianship.

    I do kind of disagree with you about the notion of 'getting' something. When I think how my musical tastes have evolved over the years, I'm very open to the idea that music can catch you out when you least expect it. The only time I really tend to fully dismiss a band is when they are musically stunted shite like Fall Out Boy.

    What if I think Muse is musically stunted shite?
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • meme
    meme Posts: 4,695
    1. Pearl Jam
    2. Radiohead
    3. Kings of Leon
    4. Jack White's bands
    5. Black Keys/BRMC/Death Cab
    ... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    facepollution wrote:
    Cool, so long as you aren't knocking the musicianship.

    I do kind of disagree with you about the notion of 'getting' something. When I think how my musical tastes have evolved over the years, I'm very open to the idea that music can catch you out when you least expect it. The only time I really tend to fully dismiss a band is when they are musically stunted shite like Fall Out Boy.
    Well I like Fall Out Boy. I think they're harmless, catchy fun. Now I know you feel vindicated about Muse because now you think I have crap taste in music. I wouldn't take that line of thinking though because I don't have crap taste in music and could extol the virtues of a million obscure, arty bands and musicians that would be a true indication of my tastes but that would make me sound like a pompous, pretentious idiot so I won't. I just feel that while FOB are hardly great, meaningful, complex art (much as I feel Muse aren't), I derive great enjoyment from them. Of course, I listen to a ton of extremely complex and artistically laudable music so it doesn't much matter. Music is music and is there to be enjoyed. This is where Muse fail for me.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • direwolf74
    direwolf74 Posts: 1,622
    In no particular order:

    The Tragically Hip
    Wintersleep
    Pearl Jam
    Wilco
    The Weakerthans

    honorable mentions:
    Drive-By Truckers
    The Constantines
    Radiohead
    Cuff the Duke
    U2
    R.E.M.
    Arcade Fire
    The National
    "I try my best to chug, stomp, weep, whisper, moan, wheeze, scat, blurt, rage, whine, and seduce. With my voice I can sound like a girl, the boogieman, a Theremin, a cherry bomb, a clown, a doctor, a murderer. I can be tribal. Ironic. Or disturbed. My voice is really my instrument."

    -Tom Waits
  • direwolf74
    direwolf74 Posts: 1,622
    Can You Say Octopus? wrote:
    U2...love them or hate them...they are still one of the most vital relevant bands in music today...I cant wait for their new album and tour

    Agreed. I just saw "U2 3D" last week and was thoroughly blown away. The power of their live show never ceases to amaze me. How to Dismantle An Atomic Bomb was average at best, but now that they've gone back to Daniel Lanois and Brian Eno for the new album, all indications point to a classic album in the works. I'm looking forward to hearing the results.
    "I try my best to chug, stomp, weep, whisper, moan, wheeze, scat, blurt, rage, whine, and seduce. With my voice I can sound like a girl, the boogieman, a Theremin, a cherry bomb, a clown, a doctor, a murderer. I can be tribal. Ironic. Or disturbed. My voice is really my instrument."

    -Tom Waits
  • ironlionzion74
    ironlionzion74 Posts: 75
    #1-Pearl Jam 2-any band Neil Young has 3-Modest Mouse 4-U2 5-Blind Melon(not really the album with the new singer,but they are touring playing the old good songs)
  • BetterManningNYG
    BetterManningNYG Posts: 777
    pearl jam
    tool
    mark lanegan
    wilco
    thrice
  • gleemonex
    gleemonex Posts: 848
    Currently (def. not all-time):

    1. Wintersleep
    2. Wilco
    3. The New Pornographers
    4. The Shins
    5. The National
    “Hello, babies. Welcome to Earth. It’s hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It’s round and wet and crowded. At the outside, babies, you’ve got about a hundred years here. There’s only one rule that I know of, babies — ‘God damn it, you’ve got to be kind.’” - Kurt Vonnegut

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