Greenday on american idol.

mookie9999

Staceb10 wrote:

The snobbery on this board is astounding....

Could you be more specific?

pjoasisrule

Green Day and American Idol.............two of the biggest problems with American entertainment

prytocorduroy

mookie9999 wrote:

The message was playing the whole time?? If you blinked, all you would have seen were pictures of people you don't know. For all you know they could have been singing for the NAACP.

They weren't. Don't be ridiculous. It was playing but since the people who work at American Idol have no clue they focused on Billie. There was probably even some spoken word about it but was edited out.

mookie9999

danny72688 wrote:

They weren't. Don't be ridiculous. It was playing but since the people who work at American Idol have no clue they focused on Billie. There was probably even some spoken word about it but was edited out.

If that was the case then AI (anyone who has a major role in the show) are an even bigger bunch of douchebags than I already thought! Joking aside, when watching the clip all I saw was the two separate messages shown very briefly followed by clips of I assume Sudanese natives. You can't say that the "message" was playing throughout. Even when they focused on Billie you could see what was going on in the background.

Staceb10

mookie9999 wrote:

Could you be more specific?

Sure.. Calling Green Day sell outs for playing a song on American Idol and acting like they just sold their soul to the devil. Then when someone says it was promoting a song from a charity album..it isn't enough either! Because they didn't come out and say "We know American Idol sucks but we want to make everyone aware that we are doing this to promote this album to help save Darfur" everyone acts like they are no longer worthy of being called musicians or some shit. It's ridiculous. Again, Bono must be the same sad sell-out because he actually WORKED with the damn contestants but wait..is that different because he was doing it for a benefit show? :rolleyes:

Staceb10

mookie9999 wrote:

If that was the case then AI (anyone who has a major role in the show) are an even bigger bunch of douchebags than I already thought! Joking aside, when watching the clip all I saw was the two separate messages shown very briefly followed by clips of I assume Sudanese natives. You can't say that the "message" was playing throughout. Even when they focused on Billie you could see what was going on in the background.

So what?

Have you ever heard a song like that and thought "wow that was great. I wonder where I can find that song"? Well what do you know....they can find it on the BENEFIT album they are promoting.

prytocorduroy

mookie9999 wrote:

If that was the case then AI (anyone who has a major role in the show) are an even bigger bunch of douchebags than I already thought! Joking aside, when watching the clip all I saw was the two separate messages shown very briefly followed by clips of I assume Sudanese natives. You can't say that the "message" was playing throughout. Even when they focused on Billie you could see what was going on in the background.

Yes American Idol is run by fools I agree.

And yes I only saw a few written messages, but images speak louder than words and I see a lot of that going on.

mookie9999

Staceb10 wrote:

...like they just sold their soul to the devil.


Again, Bono must be the same sad sell-out because he actually WORKED with the damn contestants but wait..is that different because he was doing it for a benefit show? :rolleyes:

Actually I thought they sold their soul to the devil when they played the Super Bowl. I have never seen Bono on the show (I don't watch the show). If he did it for a benefit, then knowing Bono, I'm sure people knew what he was doing there.

mookie9999

Staceb10 wrote:

So what?

Have you ever heard a song like that and thought "wow that was great. I wonder where I can find that song"? Well what do you know....they can find it on the BENEFIT album they are promoting.

Actually, to find this song I would only have to reach into my vinyl collection to hear the original. As far as people buying it and the money going to a good cause, great. But after the idol crowd pays to vote for their favorite, they probably will just rip the tune online and say fuck Darfur.

musicismylife78

i really dont understand why this band gets so much crap. They are a good band. Not the greatest ever, and certainly not the worst. But American Idiot was an awesome album. I mean, people act like they sold out, but kathleen hanna punk rock idol of her own, appears briefly on the record.

I for one think its great they got a political conscience.

I for one am eagerly awaiting the follow up to American Idiot.

mookie9999

Cheguevara6 wrote:

but kathleen hanna punk rock idol of her own, appears briefly on the record.

Whenever I hear that name I think of the message she left for Watt that Ed played on Self Polution Radio. Funny Funny stuff! "Yeah, Mr. Watt..."

musicismylife78

as far as the song choice goes, Working Class Hero is one of the most powerful songs ever, and its hardly ever on those top 10 songs lists or whatever.

Its a chilling portrayal of what life is like, coming of age, and all that. Its about how adults could give a damn about us kids.

So ANY band that is bringing this message to the masses, the powerful words of John lennon, anyone who is doing that, is a stand up band.

We need Working Class Heroes. people who refuse to buy into the system, people who question, people who dont follow the rules.

libragirl

I thought it was good cover, but OMG they had to play it on there? lol...I love GD but there is no way I can defend them now

prytocorduroy

libragirl wrote:

but OMG they had to play it on there?

Yeah I feel the same way. Kinda makes American Idiot seem so fake.
However it was a smart move to sell that benefit CD. Get the idiots from AI to buy it and you're guaranteed to sell mass quantities.

libragirl

danny72688 wrote:

However it was a smart move to sell that benefit CD. Get the idiots from AI to buy it and you're guaranteed to sell mass quantities.

lol..true enough

janegosford

mookie9999 wrote:

Actually I thought they sold their soul to the devil when they played the Super Bowl. I have never seen Bono on the show (I don't watch the show). If he did it for a benefit, then knowing Bono, I'm sure people knew what he was doing there.

So Bono sold out too when U2 played the Superbowl?

Jeanwah

Cheguevara6 wrote:

as far as the song choice goes, Working Class Hero is one of the most powerful songs ever, and its hardly ever on those top 10 songs lists or whatever.

Its a chilling portrayal of what life is like, coming of age, and all that. Its about how adults could give a damn about us kids.

So ANY band that is bringing this message to the masses, the powerful words of John lennon, anyone who is doing that, is a stand up band.

We need Working Class Heroes. people who refuse to buy into the system, people who question, people who dont follow the rules.

AMEN to THAT!

janegosford

mookie9999 wrote:

That's not the point. Seeing how we have more people vote for American Idol than we do for the president of the u.s. I would venture a guess that the viewers, not me, would need their hands held in being told what cause to support. I'm not questioning my education, how bout you? Seem a little sensitve when someone poses a valid question about your beloved Green Day.

As for the whole theory that more people vote for AI than the presidency, the presidency only allows you to vote once. AI allows people to vote endlessly. Those numbers are inflated & don't represent the number of individuals who voted.

janegosford

Also I said it in the other thread & I'll say it here too:

I can't wait til Kelly Clarkson's Mike Watt album comes out & every indie snob dies a little inside!

mookie9999

janegosford wrote:

So Bono sold out too when U2 played the Superbowl?

Um, Yes. It's all about pick and choose wisely. Are Pearl Jam masters at it? No. Do they do it better than most mainstream acts? IMO, Yes.