Lollapalooza '08

SENROCK

sgossard3 wrote:

phew... wasnt sure how to interpret all those :eek:

itd be great to see him and mike together live! if hes willing to make an appearance with chris cornell live then im sure hed do the same for PJ (or anyone else willing to give him a hot meal )

that sh*t aint right.

hardboiled

SENROCK! wrote:

i KNEW IT!!!! ure lucky i love you. I was going to add in my last post "i dont want to hear about toledo 04!!!" THANKS.

I was at that show, but was so bombed I can barely remember anything. You didn't miss much though, it was all Neil Young's show when they were onstage. Peter just kind of stood there strumming. I'd have killed to have him bust out the talkbox and hear Ed close the show by screaming "do you... DO... feel like I DO?!"

soclose

cubbieblue82 wrote:

Yeah, I saw him there. He sat in front of the stage, so no one but the kids up front could really see him. He played about 4-5 songs including Humming Bird and Heavy Metal Drummer (which he tried unsuccessfully to change the lyrics to make more kid friendly).

He was also joined by a member of Uncle Tupelo (obv. not Jay Farrar) and they played an old Uncle Tupelo song I wasn't familiar with.

Pretty cool overall since Jeff is such a charismatic guy.

I was curious about this, so I checked viachicago.org. Apparently the guest was Bill Belzer, who I believe was an interim drummer for a few months between Mike and Ken. The song they played was "New Madrid" from Anodyne. Sounds like a nice little appearance.

I watched the first 2/3 or so of Wilco's performance online. The nudie suits were quite impressive.

SENROCK

hardboiled wrote:

I was at that show, but was so bombed I can barely remember anything. You didn't miss much though, it was all Neil Young's show when they were onstage. Peter just kind of stood there strumming. I'd have killed to have him bust out the talkbox and hear Ed close the show by screaming "do you... DO... feel like I DO?!"

yes i heard. :mad: (THANKS ADAM)


and ohhhhhhhhhh BOY. I wouldnt know what to do with myself if the talk boxxx & Ed singing that took place!!!!!

Ledbetterman10

I wasn't at Lolla but I saw Rage in 2000 and I think their crowds are a fucking joke. I know I probably sound like a square but it's just way to violent down there. For every guy like me in the crowd (watching Morello's every move, appreciating Zack's flow), there's twenty guys who are just there to bash each other's brains in. I understand that it's not the type of music that you just stand their and listen to but some of those pits are fucking ridiculous.

Kilgore_Trout

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

I wasn't at Lolla but I saw Rage in 2000 and I think their crowds are a fucking joke. I know I probably sound like a square but it's just way to violent down there. For every guy like me in the crowd (watching Morello's every move, appreciating Zack's flow), there's twenty guys who are just there to bash each other's brains in. I understand that it's not the type of music that you just stand their and listen to but some of those pits are fucking ridiculous.

eh i was expecting it... actually really liked it... im big enough to defend myself though... i will agree that there were alot of meathead guitar hero frat boys there that were just looking to blow of some steam... i was glad to see everyone had eachothers back when someone went down though so no one got trampled... and good about letting people through when people were passed out or having a bad trip

Ledbetterman10

sgossard3 wrote:

eh i was expecting it... actually really liked it... im big enough to defend myself though... i will agree that there were alot of meathead guitar hero frat boys there that were just looking to blow of some steam... i was glad to see everyone had eachothers back when someone went down though so no one got trampled... and good about letting people through when people were passed out or having a bad trip

Again I wasn't at Lolla, but at the show I saw in 2000, I wasn't on the floor so I wasn't a part of the craziness. I just observed it a bit. I dunno, I think it discredits the band a bit. the musicianship is so top-notch that I felt that those people were missing out. Moshing so recklessly like that just seems like more of a thing for mindless Limp Bizkit fans.

Kilgore_Trout

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

Again I wasn't at Lolla, but at the show I saw in 2000, I wasn't on the floor so I wasn't a part of the craziness. I just observed it a bit. I dunno, I think it discredits the band a bit. the musicianship is so top-notch that I felt that those people were missing out. Moshing so recklessly like that just seems like more of a thing for mindless Limp Bizkit fans.

agreed... it was nice (though a waste of time) to see zach stop between songs and have everyone take a few steps back and warn people if it kept up as violently that they would cut the show short... as much as everyone (excluding fans) thinks rage is some mindless, radical band they really do have everyones best interest at heart and are one hell of a band

JOEJOEJOE

sgossard3 wrote:

agreed... it was nice (though a waste of time) to see zach stop between songs and have everyone take a few steps back and warn people if it kept up as violently that they would cut the show short... as much as everyone (excluding fans) thinks rage is some mindless, radical band they really do have everyones best interest at heart and are one hell of a band

I was amused when Zach paused to voice his concern about crowd safety, etc., and then, launched right into "Bullet in the Head" !!

Bremerton

I thought it was a fun weekend. Friday and Saturday were great, but Sunday was a little lackluster for me. My favorites were Radiohead, Broken Social Scene, Black Keys, Explosions in the Sky, Rage and the National. Seeing Tweedy on the kids stage was cool too.

I thought the crowds were pretty weak, especially during Radiohead.

Too many 5'3 girls need to know that they can't survive in the front for Rage.

Honestly I haven't listened to much of NIN's new stuff...but I thought it was a real momentum killer during their set. Terrible Lie was amazing, but so much of their new material seemed to bore the crowd.

Kilgore_Trout

Bremerton wrote:

Too many 5'3 girls need to know that they can't survive in the front for Rage.

in front of anywhere! they kept bitching about how they couldnt see and wanted to get up on peoples shoulders to block the people behind them! they should learn they cant hold their booze and drugs like tall people too... i saw more short chicks passing out

cubbieblue82

Get_Right wrote:

cool thanks
I bet it was pretty good.

beautiful and snow?

thats what I sing to my kids

LOL!

Actually, I think it was "beautiful and unknown" but he only remembered to change the lyrics once or twice. He actually said in the middle of the song that he kept messing it up.

Also, I swear he added a lyric about "the girl" lifting her shirt up at the show. I couldn't believe it at the time, but I am almost positive that he sang something to that effect.

cubbieblue82

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

I was amused when Zach paused to voice his concern about crowd safety, etc., and then, launched right into "Bullet in the Head" !!

Yeah, it's kind of a lost cause trying to get everyone to calm down when you are going to start playing Bullet in the Head or Know Your Enemy next. Can you really blame people for losing it?

AndySlash

sludawg13 wrote:

Perry and Slash were outstanding!!! Kind of ironic to see those two on the Kids Stage, however. Slash left the top hat at home and sported a trucker hat and was lacking the cig hanging on his lip........it's for the kids! Anyway, they did Superstition, Knockin on Heaven's Door, Comin' Down the Mountain (I'm sure that's not the song title, but that's the first thing he yells out), and Jane Says. It was kind of funny cuz Perry introduced the songs to the kids and the adults went crazy when it was obvious what song they were going to play next.

They were alright for probably not practicing a whole lot and playing with a couple SoR teenagers. I wouldn't say it was outstanding. Unique, yes. Enjoyable, yes. Outstanding, not quite.

And Slash did have a cigarette. Not right away, but he did light up.

And it was Janes' 'Mountain Song' for those keeping track at home.


Lolla was good, but probably my least favorite of the last four years. The lineup was headliner-heavy; the supporting act list wasn't nearly as impressive as previous years.

Personal favorite performance- Iron & Wine. Amazing the mood and atmosphere they created on a really nice Sunday afternoon.

Standouts- Radiohead, Explosions In The Sky, NIN.

Accidental discovery of the weekend- Holy Fuck. They were a last minute replacement, I believe, and we accidentally went to their stage instead of The Black Lips (or Kids, or Keys, or whatever other one of the trillion "Black _____" bands was playing on the opposite main stage). We liked what we heard so much we stuck around for the whole set.

Kilgore_Trout

cubbieblue82 wrote:

LOL!

Actually, I think it was "beautiful and unknown" but he only remembered to change the lyrics once or twice. He actually said in the middle of the song that he kept messing it up.

Also, I swear he added a lyric about "the girl" lifting her shirt up at the show. I couldn't believe it at the time, but I am almost positive that he sang something to that effect.

"she lifted her shirt at the battle of the bands"

cubbieblue82

sgossard3 wrote:

"she lifted her shirt at the battle of the bands"

YES!!! You saved me from idiocy!

What a great line! Maybe not the best for the kid stage though... I'm sure it floated over their heads anyway!

Kilgore_Trout

cubbieblue82 wrote:

YES!!! You saved me from idiocy!

What a great line! Maybe not the best for the kid stage though... I'm sure it floated over their heads anyway!

kids lift their shirts all the time... theyve got nothing to show under there... im sure they didnt think a thing of it... he said something else about smoking pot that i thought was more offensive than the titty flashing line... not that i would care about either if i was a parent

JaneNY

sgossard3 wrote:

anyone try to get their wristband off without cutting it yet? i just tried fire, pliers, hammer, screw driver, and more fire and that lil black fuckers not moving... must be made out of the same stuff as the black box on a plane... i would pursue it more agressively except i dont wanna inadvertently slit my own wrist... i want it in one piece though!

Mine must not have been put on very tight, because on Monday just playing with it, I was able to work it off my wrist. I put it back on to wear to the NIN show in Toronto last night though! Oh we had a blast a Lolla. So awesome to see NIN again. My jaw just kept dropping at the lights, and Trent on MARIMBA during The Greater Good.

We managed to: See Saul Williams, MEET Saul, (both my daughter and I), AND keep our decent spot for NIN, (Saul's signing was at 7, NIN at 8:15) with me going first to the signing, sprinting back to take over holding the spot she'd been holding, so she could run over.

Yeah, Radiohead still doesn't do much for me. My daughter got a spot up by the soundboard, but I stayed all the way back by the stairs going into the field. They are good, but just not my thing.

The 2nd night, we'd never seen Rage, but we knew up front is pretty hardcore, so we thought we'd hang back, but when the first few notes of Testify came on I didn't want to be so far back, and my daughter and I looked at each other and we started running up. We stayed out of the hardcore front, but just had to get closer. People were talking around us, so we kept working our way up through large gaps till we got to where people were grooving and not yacking. The sound was kind of quiet though.

Kilgore_Trout

JaneNY wrote:

The 2nd night, we'd never seen Rage, but we knew up front is pretty hardcore, so we thought we'd hang back, but when the first few notes of Testify came on I didn't want to be so far back, and my daughter and I looked at each other and we started running up. We stayed out of the hardcore front, but just had to get closer. People were talking around us, so we kept working our way up through large gaps till we got to where people were grooving and not yacking. The sound was kind of quiet though.

i keep hearing how bad RAGEs sound was at certain spots... thats really a shame... where i was was PERFECT

Joe2TheRevenge

Radiohead was a borefest.

The only time people cheered was when the LIGHT SHOW did something interesting.

RATM was spectacular.

NIN was godlike.

And Bang Camero is my new favorite band.