Renee Nicole Good/ Alex Pretti/ Minneapolis

mace1229

Go Beavers said:

mace1229 said:

Tim Simmons said:

mace1229 said:

Tim Simmons said:

I am not the Minnesota Star Tribune. 

you shared it, did you not? I don't see a difference. 

So, don’t post news stories? 

That wasn't a news story. You were sharing the identity of someone thought to maybe be involved in that shooting, i.e. doxing. 
Not everything a local paper posts on social media is news worthy. You knew what you were doing. Not sharing "news" but trying to spread the identity of an unconfirmed shooter. 

In a democracy, the identity of a law enforcement officer should be on the outside of their uniform. With that in kind, this isn’t doxxing. 

There's a difference between a name on a uniform so you can see the name of an officer who just pulled you over, vs sharing that name on the internet for the entire country to see for the purposes of harassing him.  We all know that's why his identify was shared, no one is sending him flowers. 

Go Beavers

mace1229 said:

Go Beavers said:

mace1229 said:

Tim Simmons said:

mace1229 said:

Tim Simmons said:

I am not the Minnesota Star Tribune. 

you shared it, did you not? I don't see a difference. 

So, don’t post news stories? 

That wasn't a news story. You were sharing the identity of someone thought to maybe be involved in that shooting, i.e. doxing. 
Not everything a local paper posts on social media is news worthy. You knew what you were doing. Not sharing "news" but trying to spread the identity of an unconfirmed shooter. 

In a democracy, the identity of a law enforcement officer should be on the outside of their uniform. With that in kind, this isn’t doxxing. 

There's a difference between a name on a uniform so you can see the name of an officer who just pulled you over, vs sharing that name on the internet for the entire country to see for the purposes of harassing him.  We all know that's why his identify was shared, no one is sending him flowers. 

Whatever you think the motives are is irrelevant. You don’t have anonymous law enforcement agents out on the streets in a free society. 

OnWis97

Spoiler alert; there will never be an ice-killing that's not defended by a third of the country.

Bentleyspop

OnWis97 said:

Spoiler alert; there will never be an ice-killing that's not defended by a third of the country.

In addition, and for at least 3 more years, there will never be an ice agent prosecuted for killing anyone.

Gern Blansten

Body cam footage even more disturbing. The agent was mad because they were sassing him and he ordered them out of the vehicle. He has no authority to do that. Then he murdered her.

brianlux

mace1229 said:

Go Beavers said:

mace1229 said:

Tim Simmons said:

mace1229 said:

Tim Simmons said:

I am not the Minnesota Star Tribune. 

you shared it, did you not? I don't see a difference. 

So, don’t post news stories? 

That wasn't a news story. You were sharing the identity of someone thought to maybe be involved in that shooting, i.e. doxing. 
Not everything a local paper posts on social media is news worthy. You knew what you were doing. Not sharing "news" but trying to spread the identity of an unconfirmed shooter. 

In a democracy, the identity of a law enforcement officer should be on the outside of their uniform. With that in kind, this isn’t doxxing. 

There's a difference between a name on a uniform so you can see the name of an officer who just pulled you over, vs sharing that name on the internet for the entire country to see for the purposes of harassing him.  We all know that's why his identify was shared, no one is sending him flowers. 

It's hard for me to understand why you have so much sympathy for this murderer. 

I'm also curious, did you also defend Charlie Kirk's killer and want his name kept out of the news?

nicknyr15

I have to ask, what is the point of antagonizing them and blocking the road ? Whats the endgame? Is it a cool post on social media that hopefully gets some likes? This woman wasted her life. Murdered… and for what? Peacefully protest all you want. Do people really trust these dudes to act professionally? I would never act like that around police , let alone these trigger happy rent a cop wannabe “agents”. What a gigantic waste of life. So sad and so avoidable. 

Tim Simmons

New video

https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3mbz3va3en22e

Thats as real as it gets. 

Tim Simmons

And you can see she clearly turns the wheel away from him. You also get the pretty banal dialog between them that instigated it. 

nicknyr15

Tim Simmons said:

And you can see she clearly turns the wheel away from him. You also get the pretty banal dialog between them that instigated it. 

And like Hal brought up, he clearly had their license plate on camera. Just let them drive away. Again, what a waste 

Tim Simmons

Pretty clear now he just straight up angry shot her.

Vitalogensia

nicknyr15 said:

I have to ask, what is the point of antagonizing them and blocking the road ? Whats the endgame? Is it a cool post on social media that hopefully gets some likes? This woman wasted her life. Murdered… and for what? Peacefully protest all you want. Do people really trust these dudes to act professionally? I would never act like that around police , let alone these trigger happy rent a cop wannabe “agents”. What a gigantic waste of life. So sad and so avoidable. 

I don’t mean to sound antagonistic but what do you mean by “waste of life”?

BloodMeridian80

Tim Simmons said:

"No naive or mentally ill people on my side, just yours, thats for sure"

- Guy who is absolutely all in on Donald Trump and MAGA. 

lol 

Tim Simmons

nicknyr15 said:

I have to ask, what is the point of antagonizing them and blocking the road ? Whats the endgame?

Because there are instances where they have backed off in the face confrontation. 

nicknyr15

Vitalogensia said:

nicknyr15 said:

I have to ask, what is the point of antagonizing them and blocking the road ? Whats the endgame? Is it a cool post on social media that hopefully gets some likes? This woman wasted her life. Murdered… and for what? Peacefully protest all you want. Do people really trust these dudes to act professionally? I would never act like that around police , let alone these trigger happy rent a cop wannabe “agents”. What a gigantic waste of life. So sad and so avoidable. 

I don’t mean to sound antagonistic but what do you mean by “waste of life”?

No problem. I understan. She died in such a sad, avoidable, unnecessary manner. 37 years old. Didn’t mean she is a waste of life. Apologies. 

nicknyr15

Tim Simmons said:

nicknyr15 said:

I have to ask, what is the point of antagonizing them and blocking the road ? Whats the endgame?

Because there are instances where they have backed off in the face confrontation. 

Ok. I still think it’s dumb but if there are people out there that think that risk is worth taking, then so be it. It shouldn’t be a risk, but it is. Again, you’re putting your life in the hands of the worst of the worst. 

Gern Blansten

Tim Simmons said:

Pretty clear now he just straight up angry shot her.

yep....he couldn't take that libtard woman mouthing off to him so he shot her

Gern Blansten

JD Vance posted that bodycam video as "evidence" that it was justified.

This is all so fucked up

nicknyr15

Gern Blansten said:

JD Vance posted that bodycam video as "evidence" that it was justified.

This is all so fucked up

Crazy how differently people
view that same video depending on their politics. 

Poncier

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Go Beavers said:

mace1229 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I've seen that floating around online. I'm not sure how accurate it is, in terms of the timing of the shots.
I saw this video on CBS This Morning and they slow it down frame by frame, and stop just before the first shot. This is the frame just before the first shot was fired.


He was clearly in front of the car, and she had not started to turn her wheels when when he drew the gun, and I believe also when he fired the first shot. 
Now, that all being said, I don't think the shooting was necessary. He could have taken 2 steps to his right in the same amount of time it took to draw and fire his weapon. But he was in front of the car and the car was driving towards him when he drew his gun. Does that mean it is murder? I'm not sure, maybe, maybe manslaughter, maybe something else. 
I will say I believe if the first shot is justified, then the second and third ones are as well. If you justify one shot, then I don't expect the threat to be completely eliminated and the shooter to process the new information in the 0.45 seconds the whole shooting took place. So that's Why I'm just using the frame of the first one.
And I'll emphasize I said it wasn't necessary. What level that equates to, I don't know. 

Here's the CBS clip I watched. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdPtyJ78kl0

You can see in the stills that when he fired the first shot he was clear of the front left corner or the car and her front wheels are turned to the right. 

This was the same officer that was dragged by a vehicle a few years earlier or so I read online.

He was in front of the vehicle when he drew down and was aiming as the car came towards him.

Did he know she was turning away in that instance?  No.  He sees a vehicle coming his way.

Everyone needs to be in the situation and not in hindsight.

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Douche didn’t learn his lesson after being dragged down the street last time. May have ignored training and protocols for vehicle stops as well. But sure, let’s blame the victim.

Some seem so okay with the Goon Squads surging across the country. Your, general you, time will come. Give it time and a lack of “other” perceived enemies.

All properly trained law enforcement officers know you never get in front of the vehicle while someone is behind the wheel. You always approach from the rear and sides.