Renee Nicole Good/ Alex Pretti/ Minneapolis

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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,573
    This administration would be smart to make the ICE agent a sacrificial lamb, relieve him of his duties, make statements that he acted inappropriately and does not represent what ICE's goal is etc.
    They are doing and will so just the opposite.
    He will as said earlier be commended in person by Trump.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,840
    edited January 9
    All around, the worst people running things. Can’t wait for a change
  • Halifax2TheMax
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,775
    Poncier said:
    This administration would be smart to make the ICE agent a sacrificial lamb, relieve him of his duties, make statements that he acted inappropriately and does not represent what ICE's goal is etc.
    They are doing and will so just the opposite.
    He will as said earlier be commended in person by Trump.
    this administration is not smart. you can count on them to make the absolute worst decision in every scenario.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,775
    edited January 9
    i am waiting for civilians to start taking up arms against ice though. decent people are being pushed to their breaking point, and someone is gonna snap. and it is gonna be terrible.

    just wait.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

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  • Velvet Jones
    Velvet Jones Posts: 160
    Illinois Rep. Robin Kelly filing articles of impeachment for DHS Secretary Kristi Noem.  More than likely not happening, but this is getting outrageous. Something needs to be done.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,840
    I mean its at least something

  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 8,106
    A beautiful human being killed for absolutely no reason and it wasn’t an illegal immigrant that took her life 
    It was a tragic situation, but she made several huge mistakes that lead to this as I'm sure you're aware of, so I'm not sure what you meant about "absolutely no reason."

    1) She impeded federal agents at work and blocked the road, which lead to...
    2) ...her being ordered to exit the vehicle, which she ignored, and then...
    3) ...she drove towards an officer with a lethal weapon, which lead to...
    4) ...her hitting him with said weapon, which if you saw the one video, you can clearly see.

    The last two points are why she is unfortunately dead.  Would I be upset if I was her dad?  Yes.  But I'd also understand what lead to this.    

    Cmon, we are talking about taking someone’s life here. The agent was able to execute a kill shot thru a windshield but couldnt be bothered taking out the tires instead? Give me a fvcking break

    this agent better be dealt with legally and the Rs better get their heads on straight. We don’t need to go down this rabbit hole if they condone incompetent and deadly enforcement work. The taxpayers will be paying millions and millions for this complete incompetence , maybe President Newsome takes that money from red states only in three years?
    I "like" this comment. 
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,775
    Illinois Rep. Robin Kelly filing articles of impeachment for DHS Secretary Kristi Noem.  More than likely not happening, but this is getting outrageous. Something needs to be done.
    a real president would fire her. but trump is loyal only to those that are loyal to him.
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  • CarryTheZero
    CarryTheZero Posts: 3,776
    Too early for details it seems, but two more people shot by agents in Portland.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 44,211
    edited January 9
    Dan Rather's spot on letter from Steady today:

    This is not right. Not justifiable. Not who we are as Americans. Full stop.

    The act of violence by a federal officer that killed an unarmed American is an unimaginable horror and a national atrocity.

    Renee Good was murdered by an ICE agent on her way home from dropping off her first grader at school. Video from three different angles shows Good driving onto a street full of protesters and agents near her Minneapolis home. One can then see Good maneuvering her car at the command of several agents.

    According to eyewitnesses, two agents were yelling at her simultaneously and at cross purposes to turn around, back up, stop, and get out of the car. She rolled down her window to hear and speak with them.

    Moments before the shooting, she was inching her car forward. An agent, who was standing on the left side of the car, raised his gun and shot Good at point-blank range. A doctor in the crowd offered to help Good. The agent would not let him, saying, “I don’t care.”

    Good was a poet and stay-at-home mom who was born and raised in Colorado. She has been described as a devoted Christian who was not politically active, according to her ex-husband’s father. Her social media accounts appear to bear this out.

    Once again, the president and his lackeys are asking Americans not to believe what they see with their own eyes.

    Rather than console the family or condemn the violence, he orchestrated a fiction to cover up ICE’s criminality, abuse of power, and the failures of his draconian deportation policies.

    Trump claims the ICE agent acted in self-defense and DHS Secretary Kristi Noem called Good a domestic terrorist who weaponized her car to target the agents. While die-hard Trumpsters might gobble that up like it’s Thanksgiving dinner, the real story can be seen on the video taken by multiple bystanders.

    ICE stokes fear and heightens tensions rather than de-escalating them. Since Trump took office last January, four people have been killed and five injured by ICE agents in 15 shootings. Though there is clear evidence that the agent who killed Good did not act in self-defense, it is unlikely even he will see the inside of a courtroom, never mind a prison cell.

    The agent who killed Good was identified by the Minneapolis Star Tribune. He is an Iraq War veteran who has been with ICE since at least 2016. The agent was previously injured in a traffic incident while seizing an undocumented man who was later convicted of dragging the agent with his car. This doesn’t justify what happened. At all.

    Stephen Miller, Trump’s immigration guru, who is not a lawyer, maintains ICE agents are untouchable. “You have federal immunity in the conduct of your duties. And anybody who lays a hand on you or tries to stop or obstruct you is committing a felony,” he said on Fox. This is patently false in America — always has been and always should be.

    Though Minneapolis’s mayor and Minnesota’s governor vowed to seek justice for Good, Trump & Co. made sure they were unable to. The FBI announced on Thursday morning that it would be handling the investigation alone, boxing out the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension (BCA). Historically, the agencies work together.

    The BCA said in a statement that the U.S. attorney’s office “had reversed course: the investigation would now be led solely by the FBI, and the BCA would no longer have access to the case materials, scene evidence or investigative interviews necessary to complete a thorough and independent investigation.”

    With no independent investigation and a Justice Department in the president’s pocket, the agent who killed Good may not even get a slap on the wrist.

    Unless we demand it.

    Renee Good’s death will not be in vain. It has already drawn needed attention to a rogue president and agency acting with impunity. She could be any mother, in any city, at any time. She could be any one of us. It is time to draw the line in the sand. And to say her name while doing it.













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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 44,211
    Where does it end?  Are you outraged?  I don't like the word should, but if you aren't...

    Federal immigration officers shoot and wound 2 people in Portland, Oregon, authorities say 

    PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — Federal immigration officers shot and wounded two people in a vehicle outside a hospital in Portland, Oregon, on Thursday, a day after an officer shot and killed a driver in Minnesota, authorities said. 

    More at link...


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  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 4,041
    Jesse Watters did a segment last night where he pointed out that she used pronouns and was a lesbian.

    I'm so fucking sick of these pieces of shit.
    I'm angry.. I'm scared...I don't believe this Orwellian hell we're in will end well ...I don't want to "just go about your day" and pretend these ICE thugs aren't ready and willing to take out any of us. 
    But people in this country today will never rise up like they did against in WW2 against Hitler... and if they don't see the parallels their eyes are closed right. 
  • Spartanacus
    Spartanacus Oviedo, FL Posts: 949
    A beautiful human being killed for absolutely no reason and it wasn’t an illegal immigrant that took her life 
    It was a tragic situation, but she made several huge mistakes that lead to this as I'm sure you're aware of, so I'm not sure what you meant about "absolutely no reason."

    1) She impeded federal agents at work and blocked the road, which lead to...
    2) ...her being ordered to exit the vehicle, which she ignored, and then...
    3) ...she drove towards an officer with a lethal weapon, which lead to...
    4) ...her hitting him with said weapon, which if you saw the one video, you can clearly see.

    The last two points are why she is unfortunately dead.  Would I be upset if I was her dad?  Yes.  But I'd also understand what lead to this.    
    You can spin it anyway you want since you are a MAGA supporter tell us how did you see the events of 1/6/21 when that MAGA chick got shot for trespassing? I’ll be here waiting 
    I didn't like it, just as you didn't like this one.  But yes, they were somewhat similar situations, and both were not heroes.  Both did put themselves in grave harm and paid the ultimate price.  Though Babbitt didn't have a 3000 pound killing machine that hit the dude who killed (not murdered) her. 

    I think in that case, without knowing what was going to happen when people were literally breaking through the door's window and had them cornered (I believe), he did what he thought was right, and it worked.  If she wasn't shot and they all got into that room, it would have been an interesting stand off as I don't think the mob (probably containing at least some paid leftist actors/agitators) would have gotten violent, but who knows.  It sucked for her and it sucked for Good, but you know the saying, FAFO.

    I agree the first two videos I saw of Good from the left side were questionable, but you have to admit that third video from the right side that was a little further out, clearly shows he was hit, and since he was almost killed by another whack job in a car a few months ago, it was definitely justified.  

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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,840
    A beautiful human being killed for absolutely no reason and it wasn’t an illegal immigrant that took her life 
    It was a tragic situation, but she made several huge mistakes that lead to this as I'm sure you're aware of, so I'm not sure what you meant about "absolutely no reason."

    1) She impeded federal agents at work and blocked the road, which lead to...
    2) ...her being ordered to exit the vehicle, which she ignored, and then...
    3) ...she drove towards an officer with a lethal weapon, which lead to...
    4) ...her hitting him with said weapon, which if you saw the one video, you can clearly see.

    The last two points are why she is unfortunately dead.  Would I be upset if I was her dad?  Yes.  But I'd also understand what lead to this.    
    You can spin it anyway you want since you are a MAGA supporter tell us how did you see the events of 1/6/21 when that MAGA chick got shot for trespassing? I’ll be here waiting 

    Long story short...follow the rules and you will survive.
    fucking lol
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,840
    I should have stopped with “paid leftist agitators”, but it’s Friday and I guess I’m in a let it ride mode. 
  • Spartanacus
    Spartanacus Oviedo, FL Posts: 949
    Poncier said:
    I can’t imagine another 2 years of this 
    We have 3 more years of this on tap.
    plus whatever maga choads are left to pick up the slack after trump is dead. this will continue for probably another 10 years.
    What does that mean?  Are you anticipating an early demise for our POTUS?  Even if that was the case, JD will pick up where he left off.  If not, he'll be the next president and serve 8 years.  And there are many other Patriots who will carry on trying to save our great nation from mass illegal migration and turning our country into a socialist shithole destined for failure. 

    I know you guys mean well, and yes, I want legal weed, I want to save the environment, and I want the people (who work for it) to not be destitute...but the party would have been over if that dunce Kamala and grifter Walz won. 

    I'm sure you're all nice people (I've chatted with many of you I'm sure at PJ shows), but your party is the party of the very naive and/or mentally ill, and if you can't see the forest through the trees...you better start looking more closely.

    Out.
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,840
    JD has no juice.