Renee Nicole Good/ Alex Pretti/ Minneapolis

mickeyrat

mace1229

Tim Simmons said:

IDK why this is what you are going to the mat for

I don’t know either, I should know better by now.
It’s a rabbit hole that starts with a pretty straight forward comment. Like maybe let’s not dox someone who hasn’t been confirmed. Which turns into justifications of doxxing law enforcement and accusing me of defending the killer. Why the response isn’t just “yeah, you’re right. We should wait until it’s confirmed” is kinda surprising. 

Remember Sandy Hook, and how the media first released the name and pictures of the brother by mistake? If he wasn’t living in another state, he probably would have been killed by a mob before it was corrected. So when I’m accused of defending the killer for simply saying we should not dox people until the identify is confirmed, I defend myself and explain how I never once defending the shooting. And the rabbit hole gets deeper each time. How a simple statement can get twisted and words added to it so often will always amaze me to the point I can’t resist commenting.

brianlux

mace1229 said:

Tim Simmons said:

IDK why this is what you are going to the mat for

I don’t know either, I should know better by now.
It’s a rabbit hole that starts with a pretty straight forward comment. Like maybe let’s not dox someone who hasn’t been confirmed. Which turns into justifications of doxxing law enforcement and accusing me of defending the killer. Why the response isn’t just “yeah, you’re right. We should wait until it’s confirmed” is kinda surprising. 

Remember Sandy Hook, and how the media first released the name and pictures of the brother by mistake? If he wasn’t living in another state, he probably would have been killed by a mob before it was corrected. So when I’m accused of defending the killer for simply saying we should not dox people until the identify is confirmed, I defend myself and explain how I never once defending the shooting. And the rabbit hole gets deeper each time. 

When did you learn that the killer was confirmed.  Or do you still not believe it has been?

And do you not see that accusing people of "doxxing" is a bit over the top?

dox

/däks/

verb

1. search for and publish private or identifying information about (a particular individual) on the internet, typically with malicious intent.

Who here exactly is it that you are accusing of malicious intent?  

static111

Jeez the video they released from the assassins point of view is horrible.  In any other first world country that so called LEO would be in jail.  Looks like we officially have went third world.  Go on Reddit and look at some of the other videos that folks are putting up of their interactions with the ICE goon squad.  These are not highly trained people that are mentally stable. They should not be on our streets like this.

there is a video of them in Minnesota several hours after the murder showing up to a school at final bell and just tackling kids and adults and shooting gas and shit.  If you don’t think these people are out only to terrorize and send a message, how do you not see it?

brianlux

static111 said:

Jeez the video they released from the assassins point of view is horrible.  In any other first world country that so called LEO would be in jail.  Looks like we officially have went third world.  Go on Reddit and look at some of the other videos that folks are putting up of their interactions with the ICE goon squad.  These are not highly trained people that are mentally stable. They should not be on our streets like this.

there is a video of them in Minnesota several hours after the murder showing up to a school at final bell and just tackling kids and adults and shooting gas and shit.  If you don’t think these people are out only to terrorize and send a message, how do you not see it?

Exactly, thank you!

gimmesometruth27

mace1229 said:

brianlux said:

mace1229 said:

Go Beavers said:

mace1229 said:

Tim Simmons said:

mace1229 said:

Tim Simmons said:

I am not the Minnesota Star Tribune. 

you shared it, did you not? I don't see a difference. 

So, don’t post news stories? 

That wasn't a news story. You were sharing the identity of someone thought to maybe be involved in that shooting, i.e. doxing. 
Not everything a local paper posts on social media is news worthy. You knew what you were doing. Not sharing "news" but trying to spread the identity of an unconfirmed shooter. 

In a democracy, the identity of a law enforcement officer should be on the outside of their uniform. With that in kind, this isn’t doxxing. 

There's a difference between a name on a uniform so you can see the name of an officer who just pulled you over, vs sharing that name on the internet for the entire country to see for the purposes of harassing him.  We all know that's why his identify was shared, no one is sending him flowers. 

It's hard for me to understand why you have so much sympathy for this murderer. 

I'm also curious, did you also defend Charlie Kirk's killer and want his name kept out of the news?

Not the same for multiple reasons.
For one, I have not defended this officer once.
Kirk's killer's name was officially released by authorities, not an internet post based off side remarks that may or may not have been accurate. This would be more like me posting who I think killed Kirk based on a hunch before it was released by anyone connected to the investigation and posting it all over the internet so people can go seek their own justice and just hope I'm right.

I haven't watched the news today, I don't know if his name has been officially confirmed or not. But at the time of the posting, it was not. It was based off a side-comment that Noem made.

I think this administration has handled it horribly. Calling her a terrorist from the beginning was wrong. Defending the shooting before having a chance to conduct an investigation was wrong. Why would I put any faith into the comment this officer had been hit by a car before? That was the other part that was odd, we can dismiss everything she says except for that one comment we want to be true and hold onto it like the gospel? When spreading the wrong information can literally ruin lives. I just disagree with doxxing anyone. 

As far as not defending him, which again, I haven't. In instances like these there is almost always lots of misinformation out there. It's best to get all the information first. I have already said I believe the shooting to be unnecessary, and therefore unjustified. I'm only withholding judgement on to what degree I believe that. Was it murder or poor judgement (which can still lead to criminal charges), or somewhere in between? I think the answers will be more clear when we have more to go on. There will be more footage that comes out (looks like from one of the postings there's already body cam footage) that will provide a more clear picture. 

It appears based on the video he was in front of the car when she began to accelerate and he drew his gun. It also looks like he was likely still in front of the car when he took the first shot. But I have already said in my previous comment that alone doesn't justify the shooting to me. It probably would have guaranteed his safety more to just use that second to jump out of the way than to pull his gun. So to what degree I think he is in the wrong, I'd be interested in more footage, the interaction he had immediately prior and after the shooting, etc. It's hard for me to understand what is wrong with that perspective. 

i stopped reading this after you said kirk's killer was not named before officially released by the fbi. people doxxed him too. i remember because i wanted an identity and i wanted him caught. in this age of cameras everywhere and social media, everyone is 6 ot 8 degrees away from everyone else. names will get out before "officially naming" someone. 

gimmesometruth27

Tim Simmons said:

what says it all about the American divide on this is her last words of "I'm not mad at you" and his first words after killing her "fucking bitch". 

yep, he murdered her. that shows malice. not self defense.

mace1229

gimmesometruth27 said:

mace1229 said:

brianlux said:

mace1229 said:

Go Beavers said:

mace1229 said:

Tim Simmons said:

mace1229 said:

Tim Simmons said:

I am not the Minnesota Star Tribune. 

you shared it, did you not? I don't see a difference. 

So, don’t post news stories? 

That wasn't a news story. You were sharing the identity of someone thought to maybe be involved in that shooting, i.e. doxing. 
Not everything a local paper posts on social media is news worthy. You knew what you were doing. Not sharing "news" but trying to spread the identity of an unconfirmed shooter. 

In a democracy, the identity of a law enforcement officer should be on the outside of their uniform. With that in kind, this isn’t doxxing. 

There's a difference between a name on a uniform so you can see the name of an officer who just pulled you over, vs sharing that name on the internet for the entire country to see for the purposes of harassing him.  We all know that's why his identify was shared, no one is sending him flowers. 

It's hard for me to understand why you have so much sympathy for this murderer. 

I'm also curious, did you also defend Charlie Kirk's killer and want his name kept out of the news?

Not the same for multiple reasons.
For one, I have not defended this officer once.
Kirk's killer's name was officially released by authorities, not an internet post based off side remarks that may or may not have been accurate. This would be more like me posting who I think killed Kirk based on a hunch before it was released by anyone connected to the investigation and posting it all over the internet so people can go seek their own justice and just hope I'm right.

I haven't watched the news today, I don't know if his name has been officially confirmed or not. But at the time of the posting, it was not. It was based off a side-comment that Noem made.

I think this administration has handled it horribly. Calling her a terrorist from the beginning was wrong. Defending the shooting before having a chance to conduct an investigation was wrong. Why would I put any faith into the comment this officer had been hit by a car before? That was the other part that was odd, we can dismiss everything she says except for that one comment we want to be true and hold onto it like the gospel? When spreading the wrong information can literally ruin lives. I just disagree with doxxing anyone. 

As far as not defending him, which again, I haven't. In instances like these there is almost always lots of misinformation out there. It's best to get all the information first. I have already said I believe the shooting to be unnecessary, and therefore unjustified. I'm only withholding judgement on to what degree I believe that. Was it murder or poor judgement (which can still lead to criminal charges), or somewhere in between? I think the answers will be more clear when we have more to go on. There will be more footage that comes out (looks like from one of the postings there's already body cam footage) that will provide a more clear picture. 

It appears based on the video he was in front of the car when she began to accelerate and he drew his gun. It also looks like he was likely still in front of the car when he took the first shot. But I have already said in my previous comment that alone doesn't justify the shooting to me. It probably would have guaranteed his safety more to just use that second to jump out of the way than to pull his gun. So to what degree I think he is in the wrong, I'd be interested in more footage, the interaction he had immediately prior and after the shooting, etc. It's hard for me to understand what is wrong with that perspective. 

i stopped reading this after you said kirk's killer was not named before officially released by the fbi. people doxxed him too. i remember because i wanted an identity and i wanted him caught. in this age of cameras everywhere and social media, everyone is 6 ot 8 degrees away from everyone else. names will get out before "officially naming" someone. 

But his picture were released by the fbi as a confirmed suspected shooter, was it not? They identified him as the shooter, released picture asking for help to identify him. Those in charge of the investigation identified the images of the shooter and were the ones to release them as well. Not someone on a hunch. See the difference?

mace1229

brianlux said:

mace1229 said:

Tim Simmons said:

IDK why this is what you are going to the mat for

I don’t know either, I should know better by now.
It’s a rabbit hole that starts with a pretty straight forward comment. Like maybe let’s not dox someone who hasn’t been confirmed. Which turns into justifications of doxxing law enforcement and accusing me of defending the killer. Why the response isn’t just “yeah, you’re right. We should wait until it’s confirmed” is kinda surprising. 

Remember Sandy Hook, and how the media first released the name and pictures of the brother by mistake? If he wasn’t living in another state, he probably would have been killed by a mob before it was corrected. So when I’m accused of defending the killer for simply saying we should not dox people until the identify is confirmed, I defend myself and explain how I never once defending the shooting. And the rabbit hole gets deeper each time. 

When did you learn that the killer was confirmed.  Or do you still not believe it has been?

And do you not see that accusing people of "doxxing" is a bit over the top?

dox

/däks/

verb

1. search for and publish private or identifying information about (a particular individual) on the internet, typically with malicious intent.

Who here exactly is it that you are accusing of malicious intent?  

I learned shortly after getting home, I don’t watch the news at work. 

That information was shared before it was confirmed, was it not? That was the whole point, digging up information on the law enforcement before it was released.

If not with malicious intent, what was the purpose of going out of their way to identify him and blasting his image on social media? And then sharing that information on various social media sites? The only purpose to do that is to make his life more difficult. Either through harassment on social media, sending him hate mail, protestors showing up at his house, or even physical threats. Any of the above would qualify as malicious intent. But they don’t do it so people can send him sympathy cards. Come on, let’s be real here.

Now that it’s been confirmed, I don’t care. But remember that Sandy Hook incident I referred to? The consequences of that mistake could have been terrible. The evidence they had didn’t seem strong enough to me to blast it online, especially knowing it was going to be released sooner than later anyway.

Halifax2TheMax

mace1229 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

mace1229 said:

brianlux said:

mace1229 said:

Go Beavers said:

mace1229 said:

Tim Simmons said:

mace1229 said:

Tim Simmons said:

I am not the Minnesota Star Tribune. 

you shared it, did you not? I don't see a difference. 

So, don’t post news stories? 

That wasn't a news story. You were sharing the identity of someone thought to maybe be involved in that shooting, i.e. doxing. 
Not everything a local paper posts on social media is news worthy. You knew what you were doing. Not sharing "news" but trying to spread the identity of an unconfirmed shooter. 

In a democracy, the identity of a law enforcement officer should be on the outside of their uniform. With that in kind, this isn’t doxxing. 

There's a difference between a name on a uniform so you can see the name of an officer who just pulled you over, vs sharing that name on the internet for the entire country to see for the purposes of harassing him.  We all know that's why his identify was shared, no one is sending him flowers. 

It's hard for me to understand why you have so much sympathy for this murderer. 

I'm also curious, did you also defend Charlie Kirk's killer and want his name kept out of the news?

Not the same for multiple reasons.
For one, I have not defended this officer once.
Kirk's killer's name was officially released by authorities, not an internet post based off side remarks that may or may not have been accurate. This would be more like me posting who I think killed Kirk based on a hunch before it was released by anyone connected to the investigation and posting it all over the internet so people can go seek their own justice and just hope I'm right.

I haven't watched the news today, I don't know if his name has been officially confirmed or not. But at the time of the posting, it was not. It was based off a side-comment that Noem made.

I think this administration has handled it horribly. Calling her a terrorist from the beginning was wrong. Defending the shooting before having a chance to conduct an investigation was wrong. Why would I put any faith into the comment this officer had been hit by a car before? That was the other part that was odd, we can dismiss everything she says except for that one comment we want to be true and hold onto it like the gospel? When spreading the wrong information can literally ruin lives. I just disagree with doxxing anyone. 

As far as not defending him, which again, I haven't. In instances like these there is almost always lots of misinformation out there. It's best to get all the information first. I have already said I believe the shooting to be unnecessary, and therefore unjustified. I'm only withholding judgement on to what degree I believe that. Was it murder or poor judgement (which can still lead to criminal charges), or somewhere in between? I think the answers will be more clear when we have more to go on. There will be more footage that comes out (looks like from one of the postings there's already body cam footage) that will provide a more clear picture. 

It appears based on the video he was in front of the car when she began to accelerate and he drew his gun. It also looks like he was likely still in front of the car when he took the first shot. But I have already said in my previous comment that alone doesn't justify the shooting to me. It probably would have guaranteed his safety more to just use that second to jump out of the way than to pull his gun. So to what degree I think he is in the wrong, I'd be interested in more footage, the interaction he had immediately prior and after the shooting, etc. It's hard for me to understand what is wrong with that perspective. 

i stopped reading this after you said kirk's killer was not named before officially released by the fbi. people doxxed him too. i remember because i wanted an identity and i wanted him caught. in this age of cameras everywhere and social media, everyone is 6 ot 8 degrees away from everyone else. names will get out before "officially naming" someone. 

But his picture were released by the fbi as a confirmed suspected shooter, was it not? They identified him as the shooter, released picture asking for help to identify him. Those in charge of the investigation identified the images of the shooter and were the ones to release them as well. Not someone on a hunch. See the difference?

* The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

For fucks sake, it wasn’t a “hunch.” It was the freedom of the press, doing what responsible journalists do, receive information, however minuscule, and chase it. Review of court records, public information by the way, leads to a name. A name leads to a photograph. A photograph leads to a comparison of images. People get contacted, questions get asked and answered. A conclusion is drawn. Reporters go to their managing director or editor and ask if they can run with it. Yes means they do. And they did. Responsibly. Be happy it wasn’t broadcast on YouTube, X and Lies Social. Blame the cos playing gnome for not keeping her fucking pie hole shut. Jeebus.

mickeyrat

mace1229 said:

Tim Simmons said:

IDK why this is what you are going to the mat for

I don’t know either, I should know better by now.
It’s a rabbit hole that starts with a pretty straight forward comment. Like maybe let’s not dox someone who hasn’t been confirmed. Which turns into justifications of doxxing law enforcement and accusing me of defending the killer. Why the response isn’t just “yeah, you’re right. We should wait until it’s confirmed” is kinda surprising. 

Remember Sandy Hook, and how the media first released the name and pictures of the brother by mistake? If he wasn’t living in another state, he probably would have been killed by a mob before it was corrected. So when I’m accused of defending the killer for simply saying we should not dox people until the identify is confirmed, I defend myself and explain how I never once defending the shooting. And the rabbit hole gets deeper each time. How a simple statement can get twisted and words added to it so often will always amaze me to the point I can’t resist commenting.

Does not the general public have a right to know who is working for a government agency of any level,  be it federal,  state or local? who accepts pay and benefits from our tax dollars?

suspects are named every day  but I dont recall a word from you about that.. cops of whatever stripe are not above the law and it seems to me that the only cops who should have their identity protected are those working undercover. 

mickeyrat

“When Charlie Kirk was shot, these people considered you “complicit in violence” if you didn’t spend the next week showering him with praise. Now, they declare you “complicit in violence” if you don’t immediately dance on Renee Good’s grave.” - @egger.dc

Halifax2TheMax

* The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

Ergriffenheit.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DTTbKpVjG3d/?igsh=N2IzaHVvYmRhMzRs

mickeyrat

Father of ICE agent who shot Renee Good breaks silence over killing
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ice-agent-father-minneapolis-shooting-b2897543.html

mickeyrat

https://youtu.be/bWXazVhlyxQ?si=vmtfLcjYRAb_PzX7

goldrush

Tim Simmons said:

New video

https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3mbz3va3en22e

Thats as real as it gets. 

That is hands down one of the most sickening things I have ever seen. The US is fucked and there is nothing that can be done to stop it. Anyone that voted for - and continues to defend Trump - is responsible for this murder. You helped put the wheels in motion that lead to this.

brianlux

goldrush said:

Tim Simmons said:

New video

https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3mbz3va3en22e

Thats as real as it gets. 

That is hands down one of the most sickening things I have ever seen. The US is fucked and there is nothing that be done to stop it. Anyone that voted for - and continues to defend Trump - is responsible for this murder. You helped put the wheels in motion that lead to this.

You are so right, goldrush, it really is a disaster.  And for many of us, it's hugely stressful and frustrating because half of us voters in 2024 (actually 0.2 percent more than half) voted for someone else.  Yet the fact that Trump did win the election is a clear indication that there is a huge segment of this country that willingly voted for a man who wants to be king.  They willingly voted to do away with democracy and welcomed fascism. They willingly voted for a man who said that if he went out on the street and shot someone dead, they would still vote for him. Well, that is basically what happened.
But again, at least half of us are never wanted this to happen, and some of those who did vote for Trump have had a major change of mind.  And yet millions upon millions of people still support him.  
So yes, as you so aptly put it, the U.S. is fucked.  I can't imagine how it is that so many people here cannot see that.  They would rather have their lives and their country ruined than admit they fucked up royally.  It's like living in a house of insanity and there's no way to get out (unless one is fabulously wealthy.)

brianlux

Anybody doing this?

https://www.axios.com/2026/01/09/ice-shooting-minneapolis-portland-vigils-protests

Tim Simmons

mace1229 said:

Tim Simmons said:

IDK why this is what you are going to the mat for

I don’t know either, I should know better by now.
It’s a rabbit hole that starts with a pretty straight forward comment. Like maybe let’s not dox someone who hasn’t been confirmed. Which turns into justifications of doxxing law enforcement and accusing me of defending the killer. Why the response isn’t just “yeah, you’re right. We should wait until it’s confirmed” is kinda surprising. 

Remember Sandy Hook, and how the media first released the name and pictures of the brother by mistake? If he wasn’t living in another state, he probably would have been killed by a mob before it was corrected. So when I’m accused of defending the killer for simply saying we should not dox people until the identify is confirmed, I defend myself and explain how I never once defending the shooting. And the rabbit hole gets deeper each time. How a simple statement can get twisted and words added to it so often will always amaze me to the point I can’t resist commenting.

The problem with all of this is the FBI and DHS said they are doing the investigation and will box out MPD and the state investigative agencies. They are intending to circle the wagons around this guy. They protect their own. Thanks to Noems slip up and good journalism, his name is out there. We weren't EVER gonna get his name otherwise. 

But to be fair to you, I wouldn't have posted it otherwise if it had not been coming from a legitimate news source. If it was just some goober on social media, I would have been doubtful and certainly would not have posted it. But this was a Minnesota news outlet. Yes, the media can get things wrong, but that onus is on them. Generally when info goes out from them, it’s been vetted. 

Tim Simmons

Kinda gross to wake up to see ICE agents entering the guys house and taking all his computers and whatnot. 

These ICE agents are bad. Like secret police bad. It’s scary.