Renee Nicole Good/ Alex Pretti/ Minneapolis

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  • brianlux
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    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    I have to ask, what is the point of antagonizing them and blocking the road ? Whats the endgame?
    Because there are instances where they have backed off in the face confrontation. 

    Ok. I still think it’s dumb but if there are people out there that think that risk is worth taking, then so be it. It shouldn’t be a risk, but it is. Again, you’re putting your life in the hands of the worst of the worst. 

    Malala Yousafai: Shot by the Taliban in 2012 for advocating girls’ education in Pakistan
    Nelson Mandela: 27 years of imprisonment for anti-apartheid activism.
    John Scopes: 
    risked his career and reputation when he taught the theory of evolution in his classroom
    Oskar Schindler: Risked his life by offering shelter, food, and protection to preserve the lives of the innocents, saved 1,200 Jewish workers.
    John Lewis: experienced numerous physical assaults and arrests while participating in civil rights demonstrations.
    Tarana Burke’s:  Created the “Me Too” movement and empower survivors of sexual assault.
    Harriet Tubman: A conductor on the Underground Railroad, risking her life repeatedly to free enslaved people.

    Was what these people did dumb?







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  • Gern Blansten
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    nicknyr15 said:
    JD Vance posted that bodycam video as "evidence" that it was justified.

    This is all so fucked up
    Crazy how differently people
    view that same video depending on their politics. 
    Well...you've got the VP and POTUS both saying that it is proof of self defense. The FBI has taken the MN authorities out of the equation. Then old botox face who immediately said it was a justified shooting.

    What are the maga morons supposed to believe?
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  • nicknyr15
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    brianlux said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    I have to ask, what is the point of antagonizing them and blocking the road ? Whats the endgame?
    Because there are instances where they have backed off in the face confrontation. 

    Ok. I still think it’s dumb but if there are people out there that think that risk is worth taking, then so be it. It shouldn’t be a risk, but it is. Again, you’re putting your life in the hands of the worst of the worst. 

    Malala Yousafai: Shot by the Taliban in 2012 for advocating girls’ education in Pakistan
    Nelson Mandela: 27 years of imprisonment for anti-apartheid activism.
    John Scopes: risked his career and reputation when he taught the theory of evolution in his classroom
    Oskar Schindler: Risked his life by offering shelter, food, and protection to preserve the lives of the innocents, saved 1,200 Jewish workers.
    John Lewis: experienced numerous physical assaults and arrests while participating in civil rights demonstrations.
    Tarana Burke’s:  Created the “Me Too” movement and empower survivors of sexual assault.
    Harriet Tubman: A conductor on the Underground Railroad, risking her life repeatedly to free enslaved people.

    Was what these people did dumb?







    I’m talking about one person. And only time will tell if her ultimate sacrifice was worth it. Little early to compare her to the names mentioned above. 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,189
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I am not the Minnesota Star Tribune. 

    you shared it, did you not? I don't see a difference. 
    So, don’t post news stories? 
    That wasn't a news story. You were sharing the identity of someone thought to maybe be involved in that shooting, i.e. doxing. 
    Not everything a local paper posts on social media is news worthy. You knew what you were doing. Not sharing "news" but trying to spread the identity of an unconfirmed shooter. 
    In a democracy, the identity of a law enforcement officer should be on the outside of their uniform. With that in kind, this isn’t doxxing. 
    There's a difference between a name on a uniform so you can see the name of an officer who just pulled you over, vs sharing that name on the internet for the entire country to see for the purposes of harassing him.  We all know that's why his identify was shared, no one is sending him flowers. 

    It's hard for me to understand why you have so much sympathy for this murderer. 

    I'm also curious, did you also defend Charlie Kirk's killer and want his name kept out of the news?
    Not the same for multiple reasons.
    For one, I have not defended this officer once.
    Kirk's killer's name was officially released by authorities, not an internet post based off side remarks that may or may not have been accurate. This would be more like me posting who I think killed Kirk based on a hunch before it was released by anyone connected to the investigation and posting it all over the internet so people can go seek their own justice and just hope I'm right.

    I haven't watched the news today, I don't know if his name has been officially confirmed or not. But at the time of the posting, it was not. It was based off a side-comment that Noem made.

    I think this administration has handled it horribly. Calling her a terrorist from the beginning was wrong. Defending the shooting before having a chance to conduct an investigation was wrong. Why would I put any faith into the comment this officer had been hit by a car before? That was the other part that was odd, we can dismiss everything she says except for that one comment we want to be true and hold onto it like the gospel? When spreading the wrong information can literally ruin lives. I just disagree with doxxing anyone. 

    As far as not defending him, which again, I haven't. In instances like these there is almost always lots of misinformation out there. It's best to get all the information first. I have already said I believe the shooting to be unnecessary, and therefore unjustified. I'm only withholding judgement on to what degree I believe that. Was it murder or poor judgement (which can still lead to criminal charges), or somewhere in between? I think the answers will be more clear when we have more to go on. There will be more footage that comes out (looks like from one of the postings there's already body cam footage) that will provide a more clear picture. 

    It appears based on the video he was in front of the car when she began to accelerate and he drew his gun. It also looks like he was likely still in front of the car when he took the first shot. But I have already said in my previous comment that alone doesn't justify the shooting to me. It probably would have guaranteed his safety more to just use that second to jump out of the way than to pull his gun. So to what degree I think he is in the wrong, I'd be interested in more footage, the interaction he had immediately prior and after the shooting, etc. It's hard for me to understand what is wrong with that perspective. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 44,211
    edited January 9
    nicknyr15 said:
    brianlux said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    I have to ask, what is the point of antagonizing them and blocking the road ? Whats the endgame?
    Because there are instances where they have backed off in the face confrontation. 

    Ok. I still think it’s dumb but if there are people out there that think that risk is worth taking, then so be it. It shouldn’t be a risk, but it is. Again, you’re putting your life in the hands of the worst of the worst. 

    Malala Yousafai: Shot by the Taliban in 2012 for advocating girls’ education in Pakistan
    Nelson Mandela: 27 years of imprisonment for anti-apartheid activism.
    John Scopes: risked his career and reputation when he taught the theory of evolution in his classroom
    Oskar Schindler: Risked his life by offering shelter, food, and protection to preserve the lives of the innocents, saved 1,200 Jewish workers.
    John Lewis: experienced numerous physical assaults and arrests while participating in civil rights demonstrations.
    Tarana Burke’s:  Created the “Me Too” movement and empower survivors of sexual assault.
    Harriet Tubman: A conductor on the Underground Railroad, risking her life repeatedly to free enslaved people.

    Was what these people did dumb?







    I’m talking about one person. And only time will tell if her ultimate sacrifice was worth it. Little early to compare her to the names mentioned above. 

    Then by your reasoning, perhaps you are being too quick to describe her actions as dumb.  At least she did something.  What about you or me or anyone of us?

    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I am not the Minnesota Star Tribune. 

    you shared it, did you not? I don't see a difference. 
    So, don’t post news stories? 
    That wasn't a news story. You were sharing the identity of someone thought to maybe be involved in that shooting, i.e. doxing. 
    Not everything a local paper posts on social media is news worthy. You knew what you were doing. Not sharing "news" but trying to spread the identity of an unconfirmed shooter. 
    In a democracy, the identity of a law enforcement officer should be on the outside of their uniform. With that in kind, this isn’t doxxing. 
    There's a difference between a name on a uniform so you can see the name of an officer who just pulled you over, vs sharing that name on the internet for the entire country to see for the purposes of harassing him.  We all know that's why his identify was shared, no one is sending him flowers. 

    It's hard for me to understand why you have so much sympathy for this murderer. 

    I'm also curious, did you also defend Charlie Kirk's killer and want his name kept out of the news?
    Not the same for multiple reasons.
    For one, I have not defended this officer once.
    Kirk's killer's name was officially released by authorities, not an internet post based off side remarks that may or may not have been accurate. This would be more like me posting who I think killed Kirk based on a hunch before it was released by anyone connected to the investigation and posting it all over the internet so people can go seek their own justice and just hope I'm right.

    I haven't watched the news today, I don't know if his name has been officially confirmed or not. But at the time of the posting, it was not. It was based off a side-comment that Noem made.

    I think this administration has handled it horribly. Calling her a terrorist from the beginning was wrong. Defending the shooting before having a chance to conduct an investigation was wrong. Why would I put any faith into the comment this officer had been hit by a car before? That was the other part that was odd, we can dismiss everything she says except for that one comment we want to be true and hold onto it like the gospel? When spreading the wrong information can literally ruin lives. I just disagree with doxxing anyone. 

    As far as not defending him, which again, I haven't. In instances like these there is almost always lots of misinformation out there. It's best to get all the information first. I have already said I believe the shooting to be unnecessary, and therefore unjustified. I'm only withholding judgement on to what degree I believe that. Was it murder or poor judgement (which can still lead to criminal charges), or somewhere in between? I think the answers will be more clear when we have more to go on. There will be more footage that comes out (looks like from one of the postings there's already body cam footage) that will provide a more clear picture. 

    It appears based on the video he was in front of the car when she began to accelerate and he drew his gun. It also looks like he was likely still in front of the car when he took the first shot. But I have already said in my previous comment that alone doesn't justify the shooting to me. It probably would have guaranteed his safety more to just use that second to jump out of the way than to pull his gun. So to what degree I think he is in the wrong, I'd be interested in more footage, the interaction he had immediately prior and after the shooting, etc. It's hard for me to understand what is wrong with that perspective. 

    I think you need to catch up on the news a lot more before you make these kinds of statement.  But, of course, you are free to do so here. 
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  • josevolution
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    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I am not the Minnesota Star Tribune. 

    you shared it, did you not? I don't see a difference. 
    So, don’t post news stories? 
    That wasn't a news story. You were sharing the identity of someone thought to maybe be involved in that shooting, i.e. doxing. 
    Not everything a local paper posts on social media is news worthy. You knew what you were doing. Not sharing "news" but trying to spread the identity of an unconfirmed shooter. 
    In a democracy, the identity of a law enforcement officer should be on the outside of their uniform. With that in kind, this isn’t doxxing. 
    There's a difference between a name on a uniform so you can see the name of an officer who just pulled you over, vs sharing that name on the internet for the entire country to see for the purposes of harassing him.  We all know that's why his identify was shared, no one is sending him flowers. 

    It's hard for me to understand why you have so much sympathy for this murderer. 

    I'm also curious, did you also defend Charlie Kirk's killer and want his name kept out of the news?
    Not the same for multiple reasons.
    For one, I have not defended this officer once.
    Kirk's killer's name was officially released by authorities, not an internet post based off side remarks that may or may not have been accurate. This would be more like me posting who I think killed Kirk based on a hunch before it was released by anyone connected to the investigation and posting it all over the internet so people can go seek their own justice and just hope I'm right.

    I haven't watched the news today, I don't know if his name has been officially confirmed or not. But at the time of the posting, it was not. It was based off a side-comment that Noem made.

    I think this administration has handled it horribly. Calling her a terrorist from the beginning was wrong. Defending the shooting before having a chance to conduct an investigation was wrong. Why would I put any faith into the comment this officer had been hit by a car before? That was the other part that was odd, we can dismiss everything she says except for that one comment we want to be true and hold onto it like the gospel? When spreading the wrong information can literally ruin lives. I just disagree with doxxing anyone. 

    As far as not defending him, which again, I haven't. In instances like these there is almost always lots of misinformation out there. It's best to get all the information first. I have already said I believe the shooting to be unnecessary, and therefore unjustified. I'm only withholding judgement on to what degree I believe that. Was it murder or poor judgement (which can still lead to criminal charges), or somewhere in between? I think the answers will be more clear when we have more to go on. There will be more footage that comes out (looks like from one of the postings there's already body cam footage) that will provide a more clear picture. 

    It appears based on the video he was in front of the car when she began to accelerate and he drew his gun. It also looks like he was likely still in front of the car when he took the first shot. But I have already said in my previous comment that alone doesn't justify the shooting to me. It probably would have guaranteed his safety more to just use that second to jump out of the way than to pull his gun. So to what degree I think he is in the wrong, I'd be interested in more footage, the interaction he had immediately prior and after the shooting, etc. It's hard for me to understand what is wrong with that perspective. 
    Bondi and Patel have secured any evidence that could be used for an investigation and have shutout anyone seeking to take a look 
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,840
    Its pretty clear the new video was released to be porn for the types who dislike or eyeroll, liberals/progressive/queer folk. Heres someone you hate being exterminated by your team. Its meant to excite the base, not vindicate the ICE agent.
  • Bentleyspop
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    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I am not the Minnesota Star Tribune. 

    you shared it, did you not? I don't see a difference. 
    So, don’t post news stories? 
    That wasn't a news story. You were sharing the identity of someone thought to maybe be involved in that shooting, i.e. doxing. 
    Not everything a local paper posts on social media is news worthy. You knew what you were doing. Not sharing "news" but trying to spread the identity of an unconfirmed shooter. 
    In a democracy, the identity of a law enforcement officer should be on the outside of their uniform. With that in kind, this isn’t doxxing. 
    There's a difference between a name on a uniform so you can see the name of an officer who just pulled you over, vs sharing that name on the internet for the entire country to see for the purposes of harassing him.  We all know that's why his identify was shared, no one is sending him flowers. 

    It's hard for me to understand why you have so much sympathy for this murderer. 

    I'm also curious, did you also defend Charlie Kirk's killer and want his name kept out of the news?
    Not the same for multiple reasons.
    For one, I have not defended this officer once.
    Kirk's killer's name was officially released by authorities, not an internet post based off side remarks that may or may not have been accurate. This would be more like me posting who I think killed Kirk based on a hunch before it was released by anyone connected to the investigation and posting it all over the internet so people can go seek their own justice and just hope I'm right.

    I haven't watched the news today, I don't know if his name has been officially confirmed or not. But at the time of the posting, it was not. It was based off a side-comment that Noem made.

    I think this administration has handled it horribly. Calling her a terrorist from the beginning was wrong. Defending the shooting before having a chance to conduct an investigation was wrong. Why would I put any faith into the comment this officer had been hit by a car before? That was the other part that was odd, we can dismiss everything she says except for that one comment we want to be true and hold onto it like the gospel? When spreading the wrong information can literally ruin lives. I just disagree with doxxing anyone. 

    As far as not defending him, which again, I haven't. In instances like these there is almost always lots of misinformation out there. It's best to get all the information first. I have already said I believe the shooting to be unnecessary, and therefore unjustified. I'm only withholding judgement on to what degree I believe that. Was it murder or poor judgement (which can still lead to criminal charges), or somewhere in between? I think the answers will be more clear when we have more to go on. There will be more footage that comes out (looks like from one of the postings there's already body cam footage) that will provide a more clear picture. 

    It appears based on the video he was in front of the car when she began to accelerate and he drew his gun. It also looks like he was likely still in front of the car when he took the first shot. But I have already said in my previous comment that alone doesn't justify the shooting to me. It probably would have guaranteed his safety more to just use that second to jump out of the way than to pull his gun. So to what degree I think he is in the wrong, I'd be interested in more footage, the interaction he had immediately prior and after the shooting, etc. It's hard for me to understand what is wrong with that perspective. 
    Bondi and Patel have secured any evidence that could be used for an investigation and have shutout anyone seeking to take a look 
    This regime is all about the false spin and covering their six. Look how fast noem was lying and spinning after the shooting.

    All they do is lie lie lie and they don't  care what the truth actually is or how easily it can be proven.

    They do this because they know they have all the cultists brainwashed to believe all the bs and lies. As well as the dOj and the fed courts to back them up.
  • Tim Simmons
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    Its kinda always been this way, but certainly over the past decade, you can really tell a lot about a person by where they stand in regards to this admin.

  • OnWis97
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    Killed unjustly by law enforcement: Ashlii Babbit
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,840
    what says it all about the American divide on this is her last words of "I'm not mad at you" and his first words after killing her "fucking bitch". 




  • OnWis97
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    If I didn't know any better, I'd suspect he took the job so he could have an excuse.
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  • mickeyrat
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    Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) is calling for local officials in Minnesota to be involved in the investigation of the fatal shooting of a 37-year-old mother of three by an ICE officer in Minneapolis, sending a pointed message to Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem, who says local investigators lack jurisdiction over the matter. https://trib.al/vXwyzKb
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 44,211
    mickeyrat said:
    Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) is calling for local officials in Minnesota to be involved in the investigation of the fatal shooting of a 37-year-old mother of three by an ICE officer in Minneapolis, sending a pointed message to Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem, who says local investigators lack jurisdiction over the matter. https://trib.al/vXwyzKb

    I don't 100% favor everything Murkowski does, but she's gutsy and for the most part, a terrific senator.  And very personable (so I'm told by a family member who worked with her on a local project in Alaska a few years ago).

    Well done, Senator Murkowski! 
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,189
    brianlux said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    brianlux said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    I have to ask, what is the point of antagonizing them and blocking the road ? Whats the endgame?
    Because there are instances where they have backed off in the face confrontation. 

    Ok. I still think it’s dumb but if there are people out there that think that risk is worth taking, then so be it. It shouldn’t be a risk, but it is. Again, you’re putting your life in the hands of the worst of the worst. 

    Malala Yousafai: Shot by the Taliban in 2012 for advocating girls’ education in Pakistan
    Nelson Mandela: 27 years of imprisonment for anti-apartheid activism.
    John Scopes: risked his career and reputation when he taught the theory of evolution in his classroom
    Oskar Schindler: Risked his life by offering shelter, food, and protection to preserve the lives of the innocents, saved 1,200 Jewish workers.
    John Lewis: experienced numerous physical assaults and arrests while participating in civil rights demonstrations.
    Tarana Burke’s:  Created the “Me Too” movement and empower survivors of sexual assault.
    Harriet Tubman: A conductor on the Underground Railroad, risking her life repeatedly to free enslaved people.

    Was what these people did dumb?







    I’m talking about one person. And only time will tell if her ultimate sacrifice was worth it. Little early to compare her to the names mentioned above. 

    Then by your reasoning, perhaps you are being too quick to describe her actions as dumb.  At least she did something.  What about you or me or anyone of us?

    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I am not the Minnesota Star Tribune. 

    you shared it, did you not? I don't see a difference. 
    So, don’t post news stories? 
    That wasn't a news story. You were sharing the identity of someone thought to maybe be involved in that shooting, i.e. doxing. 
    Not everything a local paper posts on social media is news worthy. You knew what you were doing. Not sharing "news" but trying to spread the identity of an unconfirmed shooter. 
    In a democracy, the identity of a law enforcement officer should be on the outside of their uniform. With that in kind, this isn’t doxxing. 
    There's a difference between a name on a uniform so you can see the name of an officer who just pulled you over, vs sharing that name on the internet for the entire country to see for the purposes of harassing him.  We all know that's why his identify was shared, no one is sending him flowers. 

    It's hard for me to understand why you have so much sympathy for this murderer. 

    I'm also curious, did you also defend Charlie Kirk's killer and want his name kept out of the news?
    Not the same for multiple reasons.
    For one, I have not defended this officer once.
    Kirk's killer's name was officially released by authorities, not an internet post based off side remarks that may or may not have been accurate. This would be more like me posting who I think killed Kirk based on a hunch before it was released by anyone connected to the investigation and posting it all over the internet so people can go seek their own justice and just hope I'm right.

    I haven't watched the news today, I don't know if his name has been officially confirmed or not. But at the time of the posting, it was not. It was based off a side-comment that Noem made.

    I think this administration has handled it horribly. Calling her a terrorist from the beginning was wrong. Defending the shooting before having a chance to conduct an investigation was wrong. Why would I put any faith into the comment this officer had been hit by a car before? That was the other part that was odd, we can dismiss everything she says except for that one comment we want to be true and hold onto it like the gospel? When spreading the wrong information can literally ruin lives. I just disagree with doxxing anyone. 

    As far as not defending him, which again, I haven't. In instances like these there is almost always lots of misinformation out there. It's best to get all the information first. I have already said I believe the shooting to be unnecessary, and therefore unjustified. I'm only withholding judgement on to what degree I believe that. Was it murder or poor judgement (which can still lead to criminal charges), or somewhere in between? I think the answers will be more clear when we have more to go on. There will be more footage that comes out (looks like from one of the postings there's already body cam footage) that will provide a more clear picture. 

    It appears based on the video he was in front of the car when she began to accelerate and he drew his gun. It also looks like he was likely still in front of the car when he took the first shot. But I have already said in my previous comment that alone doesn't justify the shooting to me. It probably would have guaranteed his safety more to just use that second to jump out of the way than to pull his gun. So to what degree I think he is in the wrong, I'd be interested in more footage, the interaction he had immediately prior and after the shooting, etc. It's hard for me to understand what is wrong with that perspective. 

    I think you need to catch up on the news a lot more before you make these kinds of statement.  But, of course, you are free to do so here. 
    Why? I was commenting on social media doxxing him without any official confirmation. The news of today after the fact doesn’t have any impact on that whatsoever.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,840
    IDK why this is what you are going to the mat for
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Funny how certain posters are concerned about and have they’re knickers in a bunch regarding the “doxxing” of a law enforcement officer shooting a citizen in the face but expressed no concern about the irresponsible behaviour of the douche bag right winger kid who had his dishonest and bullshit doxxing of black citizens in Minneapolis amplified on YouTube, Twitter and Lies Social, particularly when the biggest Minneapolis fraudster was a white woman who was held to account by the Brandon Administration. 

    I mean, talk about irresponsible behaviour. Me thinks that right wing “media influencer”, doxxing punk is partly responsible for Renee Good’s death and should be ostracized, if not investigated. Name his ass in a civil suit, take depositions and drag his ass through a civil trial.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 44,211
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    nicknyr15 said:
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    I have to ask, what is the point of antagonizing them and blocking the road ? Whats the endgame?
    Because there are instances where they have backed off in the face confrontation. 

    Ok. I still think it’s dumb but if there are people out there that think that risk is worth taking, then so be it. It shouldn’t be a risk, but it is. Again, you’re putting your life in the hands of the worst of the worst. 

    Malala Yousafai: Shot by the Taliban in 2012 for advocating girls’ education in Pakistan
    Nelson Mandela: 27 years of imprisonment for anti-apartheid activism.
    John Scopes: risked his career and reputation when he taught the theory of evolution in his classroom
    Oskar Schindler: Risked his life by offering shelter, food, and protection to preserve the lives of the innocents, saved 1,200 Jewish workers.
    John Lewis: experienced numerous physical assaults and arrests while participating in civil rights demonstrations.
    Tarana Burke’s:  Created the “Me Too” movement and empower survivors of sexual assault.
    Harriet Tubman: A conductor on the Underground Railroad, risking her life repeatedly to free enslaved people.

    Was what these people did dumb?







    I’m talking about one person. And only time will tell if her ultimate sacrifice was worth it. Little early to compare her to the names mentioned above. 

    Then by your reasoning, perhaps you are being too quick to describe her actions as dumb.  At least she did something.  What about you or me or anyone of us?

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    brianlux said:
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    I am not the Minnesota Star Tribune. 

    you shared it, did you not? I don't see a difference. 
    So, don’t post news stories? 
    That wasn't a news story. You were sharing the identity of someone thought to maybe be involved in that shooting, i.e. doxing. 
    Not everything a local paper posts on social media is news worthy. You knew what you were doing. Not sharing "news" but trying to spread the identity of an unconfirmed shooter. 
    In a democracy, the identity of a law enforcement officer should be on the outside of their uniform. With that in kind, this isn’t doxxing. 
    There's a difference between a name on a uniform so you can see the name of an officer who just pulled you over, vs sharing that name on the internet for the entire country to see for the purposes of harassing him.  We all know that's why his identify was shared, no one is sending him flowers. 

    It's hard for me to understand why you have so much sympathy for this murderer. 

    I'm also curious, did you also defend Charlie Kirk's killer and want his name kept out of the news?
    Not the same for multiple reasons.
    For one, I have not defended this officer once.
    Kirk's killer's name was officially released by authorities, not an internet post based off side remarks that may or may not have been accurate. This would be more like me posting who I think killed Kirk based on a hunch before it was released by anyone connected to the investigation and posting it all over the internet so people can go seek their own justice and just hope I'm right.

    I haven't watched the news today, I don't know if his name has been officially confirmed or not. But at the time of the posting, it was not. It was based off a side-comment that Noem made.

    I think this administration has handled it horribly. Calling her a terrorist from the beginning was wrong. Defending the shooting before having a chance to conduct an investigation was wrong. Why would I put any faith into the comment this officer had been hit by a car before? That was the other part that was odd, we can dismiss everything she says except for that one comment we want to be true and hold onto it like the gospel? When spreading the wrong information can literally ruin lives. I just disagree with doxxing anyone. 

    As far as not defending him, which again, I haven't. In instances like these there is almost always lots of misinformation out there. It's best to get all the information first. I have already said I believe the shooting to be unnecessary, and therefore unjustified. I'm only withholding judgement on to what degree I believe that. Was it murder or poor judgement (which can still lead to criminal charges), or somewhere in between? I think the answers will be more clear when we have more to go on. There will be more footage that comes out (looks like from one of the postings there's already body cam footage) that will provide a more clear picture. 

    It appears based on the video he was in front of the car when she began to accelerate and he drew his gun. It also looks like he was likely still in front of the car when he took the first shot. But I have already said in my previous comment that alone doesn't justify the shooting to me. It probably would have guaranteed his safety more to just use that second to jump out of the way than to pull his gun. So to what degree I think he is in the wrong, I'd be interested in more footage, the interaction he had immediately prior and after the shooting, etc. It's hard for me to understand what is wrong with that perspective. 

    I think you need to catch up on the news a lot more before you make these kinds of statement.  But, of course, you are free to do so here. 
    Why? I was commenting on social media doxxing him without any official confirmation. The news of today after the fact doesn’t have any impact on that whatsoever.

    Well, dang it, I can't keep my internet connection on long enough to scroll back far enough to verify the timing.  I was pretty sure you said as of today the killer hadn't been identify-- he was-- but if I am  wrong about when you posted, I apologize.  

    But come on man "It appears based on the video he was in front of the car when she began to accelerate and he drew his gun"?  That's been proven false a number of time and I'm done with arguing that point.  The guy fucking murdered Renee Good. 

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  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 8,106
    "Fucking bitch" 

    I mean...I guess what else are you suppose to call an unarmed American woman whom you have just murdered as her car rolls to a stop with her lifeless body inside.
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  • brianlux
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    Funny how certain posters are concerned about and have they’re knickers in a bunch regarding the “doxxing” of a law enforcement officer shooting a citizen in the face but expressed no concern about the irresponsible behaviour of the douche bag right winger kid who had his dishonest and bullshit doxxing of black citizens in Minneapolis amplified on YouTube, Twitter and Lies Social, particularly when the biggest Minneapolis fraudster was a white woman who was held to account by the Brandon Administration. 

    I mean, talk about irresponsible behaviour. Me thinks that right wing “media influencer”, doxxing punk is partly responsible for Renee Good’s death and should be ostracized, if not investigated. Name his ass in a civil suit, take depositions and drag his ass through a civil trial.
    Right!  And is it really doxing to mention the name of someone who murders someone else when it's all over the news already?

    Dox:  search for and publish private or identifying information about (a particular individual) on the internet, typically with mailcious intent.

    I don't think anyone here is doxxing this murderer.
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