Renee Nicole Good/ Alex Pretti/ Minneapolis

HughFreakingDillon

If they try to validate Pretti’s murder by using a 2 week old incident , that shows its now premeditated murder. 

Go Beavers

HughFreakingDillon said:

If they try to validate Pretti’s murder by using a 2 week old incident , that shows its now premeditated murder. 

Exactly what I was thinking. If it goes to trial, a decent prosecutor could frame it up as planned retaliation. 

brianlux

HughFreakingDillon said:

If they try to validate Pretti’s murder by using a 2 week old incident , that shows its now premeditated murder. 

Justice in present day America:

Storm the Capitol, illegal entry, property damage, injure or kill Capitol Police officer, threaten to kill lawmakers.
Punishment:  A little jail time and a pardon from the president.

Protest ICE and border patrol, kick in tail light on vehicle.
Punishment: Public execution.

PJ_Soul

brianlux said:

Has it been confirmed it was Pretti in that earlier film?  AP news says, 

"A person with knowledge of the incident confirmed to The Associated Press that the man in the videos is Pretti and that he had told his family of the confrontation. The person spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss matters sensitive to the family."

Who or what is "A person of knowledge"?

If it was, did he do anything that deserved having his body riddled with bullets?  

Is anyone asking these questions?

It's not legal to kill someone for something they did 11 days prior, so none of that is relevant. 

tempo_n_groove

Tim Simmons said:

He was doing some LA immigration protesting last year. He's around, hes just low key.

Must be very low key.  I never see him anywhere.  Like you said, I'm surprised at what we got.  Even more surprised we got a reunion tour.

Thread integrity. The premeditated angle is good.  Let them keep saying it was because a past incident.

Bentleyspop

Springsteen video has dropped...
https://youtu.be/GDaPdpwA4Iw?si=Rh6iA0SnUH7-nKtB

gimmesometruth27

HughFreakingDillon said:

If they try to validate Pretti’s murder by using a 2 week old incident , that shows its now premeditated murder. 

this right here.

gimmesometruth27

the senate defeated the funding bill.

this thing should not have even gotten out of the house. fucking 7 spineless dems voted for it, and one that did not grasp the fact that it was a referendum vote on ice. that last one should resign and be tarred and feathered.

mickeyrat

tempo_n_groove said:

mickeyrat said:

https://youtu.be/bWXazVhlyxQ?si=u7II-kdJGpRc8eoj

Does he even do protesting anymore?  Tom Morello at his concert was pretty vocal about things.

Zack? don't think so. at least now. but will say on their last tour he tore his achilles to 8% left intact on the second show. finished out that leg of the tour and cancelled the second leg to europe and the final us shows.

saw show #6? in Cleveland. NEVER have I been in a room with that much energy from the first note. He did it seated on a road case......

So havent heard any updates but I am looking to see if he will even walk again unaided.

mickeyrat

Tim Simmons

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mickeyrat said:

https://youtu.be/bWXazVhlyxQ?si=u7II-kdJGpRc8eoj

Does he even do protesting anymore?  Tom Morello at his concert was pretty vocal about things.

Zack? don't think so. at least now. but will say on their last tour he tore his achilles to 8% left intact on the second show. finished out that leg of the tour and cancelled the second leg to europe and the final us shows.

saw show #6? in Cleveland. NEVER have I been in a room with that much energy from the first note. He did it seated on a road case......

So havent heard any updates but I am looking to see if he will even walk again unaided.

pretty sure he is. There was some event he was at in the fall (it was on Tim Robinson's IG) and I saw pictures of him just standing around hanging out. 

brianlux

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

Has it been confirmed it was Pretti in that earlier film?  AP news says, 

"A person with knowledge of the incident confirmed to The Associated Press that the man in the videos is Pretti and that he had told his family of the confrontation. The person spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss matters sensitive to the family."

Who or what is "A person of knowledge"?

If it was, did he do anything that deserved having his body riddled with bullets?  

Is anyone asking these questions?

It's not legal to kill someone for something they did 11 days prior, so none of that is relevant. 

Exactly!  

Except in a fascist state where rule of law is not relevant. 

tempo_n_groove

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mickeyrat said:

https://youtu.be/bWXazVhlyxQ?si=u7II-kdJGpRc8eoj

Does he even do protesting anymore?  Tom Morello at his concert was pretty vocal about things.

Zack? don't think so. at least now. but will say on their last tour he tore his achilles to 8% left intact on the second show. finished out that leg of the tour and cancelled the second leg to europe and the final us shows.

saw show #6? in Cleveland. NEVER have I been in a room with that much energy from the first note. He did it seated on a road case......

So havent heard any updates but I am looking to see if he will even walk again unaided.

Yeah he's been quiet.  

I did 3 of the 5 shows at MSG.  If there was ever a sign that a band should still be touring and making music, this was it.

Achilles can be fixed nowadays.  It's not the crutches forever diagnosis anymore.

Zach the world would love to hear your voice again.

D-Day

Her first interview after the disastrous press conference on Saturday

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2026/01/30/noem-we-were-using-the-best-information-we-had-at-the-time-with-pretti-statements/

brianlux

Powerful words form a power wise man:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1588570898957212

g under p

brianlux said:

Powerful words form a power wise man:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1588570898957212

Brian, he easily speaks the thruth in way WE ALL can understand.  This is the 250th year of this country's existence and forsee possibly a change in the political sphere a coming. I just hope WE ALL wake up!

✌️ 

brianlux

g under p said:

brianlux said:

Powerful words form a power wise man:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1588570898957212

Brian, he easily speaks the thruth in way WE ALL can understand.  This is the 250th year of this country's existence and forsee possibly a change in the political sphere a coming. I just hope WE ALL wake up!

✌️ 

I sure hope so too. Dr. West hit it right other head saying we're at the edge of a cliff. It's make it or break it time in America. 

D-Day

The FOX interview is somehow crazy and twisted stuff incl. own goal effect. He’s basically on her side, but asked some relevant questions. (both) should know the answer/s can’t help to solve the government/DHS/ICE/Noem credibility/management mess.

anyway, the question about the exact time of the government’s first move
     9:01 - shots fired 
     ?:?? - first move (via X)
is answered here and now.

January 24

11:31 a.m. CT/12:31 p.m. ET: A Department of Homeland Security post on X describes Pretti as an individual who "wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement."

"An individual approached US Border Patrol officers with a 9 mm semi-automatic handgun, seen here. ..... The officers attempted to disarm the suspect but the armed suspect violently resisted. More details on the armed struggle are forthcoming. Fearing for his life and the lives and safety of fellow officers, an agent fired defensive shots. Medics on scene immediately delivered medical aid to the subject but was pronounced dead at the scene. The suspect also had 2 magazines and no ID—this looks like a situation where an individual wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement."

12:22 p.m. CT/1:22 p.m. ET: Stephen Miller called Pretti a "domestic terrorist" on X in response to a post from Minnesota Democratic Sen. Amy Klobuchar.

"A domestic terrorist tried to assassinate federal law enforcement and this is your response? You and the state’s entire Democrat leadership team have been flaming the flames of insurrection for the singular purpose of stopping the deportation of illegals who invaded the country."

12:43 p.m. CT/1:43 p.m. ET: Stephen Miller called Pretti an "assassin" on X in a reply to a postfrom Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Connecticut. Murphy shared a news headline stating that the person shot had died and called for ICE to leave Minnesota.

"An assassin tried to murder federal agents and this is your response," Miller posted.

Later, Vice President JD Vanceshared Miller's post.

1:06 p.m. CT/2:06 p.m. ET: President Donald Trump posts a photo of the gun federal officials said Pretti was carrying to his Truth Social account. At 1:37 p.m. CT/2:37 p.m. ET, the official White House X account also posts a photo of the gun.

"This is the gunman’s gun, loaded (with two additional full magazines!), and ready to go – What is that all about?"

Border Patrol leader Gregory Bovino said Pretti wanted to do "maximum damage" and "massacre law enforcement," echoing the DHS language at a Jan. 24 news conference. He also said the agent fired "defensive shots."

"During this operation an individual approached U.S. Border Patrol agents with a 9 mm semiautomatic hand gun. The agents attempted to disarm the individual, but he violently resisted. Fearing for his life and the lives and safety of fellow officers, a border patrol agent fired defensive shots… the suspect also had two loaded magazines… this looks like a situation where an individual wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement."

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said Pretti "committed an act of domestic terrorism" at a Jan. 24 news conference.

"When you perpetuate violence against a government because of ideological reasons, and for reasons to resist and perpetuate violence, that is the definition of domestic terrorism. This individual who came with weapons and ammunition to stop a law enforcement operation of federal law enforcement officers committed an act of domestic terrorism. That’s the facts."

Noem described Pretti as someone who came to "inflict maximum damage" and "kill law enforcement."

"This looks like a situation where an individual arrived at the scene to inflict maximum damage on individuals and to kill law enforcement." She added that "he wasn’t there to peacefully protest, he was there to perpetuate violence." 

Noem also said Pretti "attacked" law enforcement.

"This individual impeded the law enforcement officers and attacked them… we were doing a targeted operation against an illegal criminal and this individual came with a weapon and dozens of rounds of ammunition and attacked them and these agents took action to defend their lives and to defend the lives of the people around them."

Noem described Pretti as "brandishing" a gun.

"This individual went and impeded their law enforcement operations, attacked those officers, had a weapon on him and multiple, dozens of rounds of ammunition, wishing to inflict harm on these officers, coming, brandishing like that and impeding their work that they were doing."

At 4:55 p.m. CT/5:55 p.m. ET, an official White House X account, "Rapid Response 47," shares a Noem quote where she described Pretti using weapons to assault officers. Minutes later, the Homeland Security X account shared the post:

"This individual showed up to impede a law enforcement operation, and assaulted our officers. They responded according to their training... this is a violent riot, when you have someone showing up with weapons, and are using them to assault law enforcement officers."

January 25

8:23 a.m. CT/9:23 a.m. ET: The Rapid Response 47 X account quotes Bovino in a post:

"He was there for a reason — and that reason was to impede law enforcement… de-escalation techniques were utilized during this action… those techniques did not work. Officers always try to use the minimum amount of force necessary…"

9:05 a.m. CT/10:05 a.m. ET: Homeland Security shares a clip of Bovino where he said "...It's too bad the consequences had to be paid..." during an appearance on CNN.

"Law enforcement doesn't assault anyone. Follow directions of law enforcement. Follow directions of law enforcement in an active crime scene. It was very evident he didn't want to do that ... It's too bad the consequences had to be paid because he injected himself into that crime scene."

Trump tells the Wall Street Journal in Jan. 25 interview "we’re reviewing everything."

Pressed in a telephone interview with the Wall Street Journal on whether federal agents had done the right thing with Pretti, Trump said, "We’re looking, we’re reviewing everything and will come out with a determination." The president also said during the interview that immigration agents eventually will depart Minneapolis, saying "At some point we will leave. We’ve done, they’ve done a phenomenal job." Trump also talked about Pretti having a gun, saying "I don’t like any shooting. I don’t like it. But I don’t like it when somebody goes into a protest and he’s got a very powerful, fully loaded gun with two magazines loaded up with bullets also. That doesn’t play good either."

January 26

7:31 a.m. CT/8:31 a.m. ET: Trump posts on Truth Social that he's sending his border czar Tom Homan to Minnesota "tonight."

"Tom is tough but fair, and will report directly to me."

White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt in a 12 p.m. CT/1 p.m. ET news conference on Jan. 26 distanced Trump from Miller and Noem’s description of Pretti as a domestic terrorist.

"I have not heard the president characterize Mr. Pretti in that way." Leavitt also said when asked about the comments about Pretti by administration officials that "this has obviously been a very fluid and fast-moving situation throughout the weekend. As for President Trump, whom I speak for, he has said that he wants to let the investigation continue and let the facts lead in this case."

January 27

Trump told reporters he wants an "honorable and honest" investigation of Pretti’s death as he departed the White House on the morning of Jan. 27 for a trip to Iowa.

"We're doing a big investigation. I want to see the investigation. I'm going to be watching over it. I want a very honorable and honest investigation. I have to see it myself." Trump also said that "I’m looking at the whole situation. I love everybody. I love all of our people. I love his family. And it's a very sad situation." He added of Pretti that "You can’t have guns. You can’t walk in with guns. You can’t do that."

Trump says "I haven’t heard that" when asked by reporters during an afternoon visit to an Iowa business about comments made by members of his administration that Pretti is a domestic terrorist.

"Well, I haven’t heard that but certainly he shouldn’t have been carrying a gun… Look, bottom line, everybody in this room, we view that as a very unfortunate incident. OK? Everyone, unless you’re a stupid person, a very, very unfortunate incident. I don’t like that he had a gun. I don’t like that he had two fully loaded magazines. That’s a lot of bad stuff. And despite that, I say that’s a very unfortunate…"

Trump talks about de-escalation in Minnesota during a Fox News interview in Iowa that aired in the late afternoon.

"We’re going to de-escalate a little bit."

Trump in the Fox News interviewcalled Pretti’s death, and an earlier death in Minneapolis when an immigration agent shot and killed Renee Good, "terrible."

"Bottom line it was terrible. Both of them were terrible. The other was terrible too, and I’m not sure about his parents but I know her parents were big Trump fans. Makes me feel bad anyway, but I guess you could say even worse."

Trump also discussed Border Patrol leader Gregory Bovino, who had helped oversee immigration enforcement in Minneapolis, in the Fox interview, calling him "out there." Trump sent border czar Tom Homan to Minneapolis to take over the Minneapolis operation.

"Bovino is very good, but he’s a pretty out there kind of a guy. And in some cases it’s good, maybe it wasn’t good here." Trump denied that the leadership shakeup in Minneapolis was a pullback, saying: "I don’t think it’s a pullback. It’s a little bit of a change."

White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller in a Jan. 27 statement responded to questions about the initial narrative put out by the Department of Homeland Security and said Customs and Border Protection may have erred in the events leading up to Pretti’s death.

"The initial statement from DHS was based on reports from CBP on the ground. Additionally, the White House provided clear guidance to DHS that the extra personnel that had been sent to Minnesota for force protection should be used for conducting fugitive operations to create a physical barrier between the arrest teams and the disruptors. We are evaluating why the CBP team may not have been following that protocol."

January 29

Trump border czar Tom Homan says during a news conference in Minneapolis that "massive changes" are coming to immigration enforcement efforts in the city, including a "draw down" of federal agents.

"You're going to see some massive changes occurring here in this city," Homan said after describing "significant" progress during discussions with local leaders. Homan said immigration agents are being withdrawn from the city. "My main focus now is draw down," of immigration agents, he said. Agents that remain will focus on "targeted" operations aimed at people with criminal records, something he said the Minneapolis operation strayed from "a little bit."

10:26 a.m. CT/11:26 a.m. ET: Trump shares a video on Truth Social from days before the shooting that appears to show Pretti in a confrontation with agents, spitting on their vehicle, with an overlay showing Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Massachusetts, speaking about Pretti.

As she reads: "Alex carried patience, compassion and calm as a steady light within him," the video shows him kicking out a taillight on the vehicle.

6:17 p.m. CT/7:17 p.m. ET: Asked about pulling immigration enforcement agents out of Minnesota at a red carpet event for a documentary about the first lady, Trump told a reporter he was not doing so.

"We want to keep our country safe. We'll do whatever we can to keep our country safe," said Trump.

"So, you're not pulling back?" asked the reporter.

"No, no. Not at all."  

January 30

12:26 a.m. CT/1:26 a.m. ET: Trump calls Pretti "agitator and, perhaps, insurrectionist" in a Truth Social post referencing a newly surfaced video shot days before the shooting.

"Agitator and, perhaps, insurrectionist, Alex Pretti’s stock has gone way down with the just released video of him screaming and spitting in the face of a very calm and under control ICE Officer, and then crazily kicking in a new and very expensive government vehicle, so hard and violent, in fact, that the taillight broke off in pieces. It was quite a display of abuse and anger, for all to see, crazed and out of control. The ICE Officer was calm and cool, not an easy thing to be under those circumstances! MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN."

What next!?

D-Day

Trump January 30, 2026
 “…released video… spitting in the face of a very calm and under control ICE Officer... for all to see…”

Just a detail, but obviously still not learned enough.

Gern Blansten

Remember that Noem's first comments accompanied the photo of Pretti's gun sitting on a car seat. We now know that the gun was taken from him prior to any shots being fired but the impression was that they wrestled the gun away from him as he was trying to carry out his massacre.

Yesterday was very odd. Lemon gets arrested basically for pissing off trump and the DOJ says they are looking into the Pretti shooting. Makes no sense.