Disappointed in Pearl Jam fans…

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  • SpartanacusSpartanacus Oviedo, FL Posts: 927
    D-Rod said:
    Maybe it’s time to go back to assigned seating in the pit.   Between this and all the issues with same people on rail it might be time to retire the current GA. 
        Personally I’ve had GA 8 times and it’s been an amazing experience every time, but all good things will eventually come to an end. 
    This wasn’t the GA line, just standard entry. 
    100% agreed.  It would be one thing if the the pit experience was kind of like the old days...people actually dancing and moving around a bit.  Now you have a bunch of 50 year olds basically just standing there bobbing their heads a little, with a lot of statues not even moving, and then there will be a couple fun people actually doing the good old non stop jump in place calf workout.  

    Plus maybe Ed wouldn't have to stop every f'in show because somebody passed out. 

    Bring back the damn chairs and Ten Club Seniority (besides the first and last rows of the pit, which should be for random Ten Clubbers to give the newbies hope)!  
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,697
    on2legs said:
    danofun said:
    on2legs said:
    Isn’t Ten Club seating supposed to be by seniority?  Maybe if the ten club gave the pit to the most senior members who won tickets to each show, unless they opted out, we would have less problems.  It’s kind of unfair to make people who have been in the club from the beginning compete for the closest tickets with people who joined the club the day before the cutoff.  
    You think that would cause less problems……that sounds like a shit show waiting to happen. Just giving GA to the oldest members is super wack in my opinion. Everyone should be entitled to have a shot at the pit. 
    and provides zero reason for new members to join. @on2legs what's your 10C number?!
    New members still have the same opportunity to win tickets as the rest of the club.  If they want to be snobbish about having seats further away than 30 year members then maybe try the public sale.  
    I think it works now. Ga is a shot for everyone to get close. Seating is by seniority. Or before they had GA, they'd have some rows up front that were random so there was always a chance, but mostly by seniority. 
  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,712
    mace1229 said:
    on2legs said:
    danofun said:
    on2legs said:
    Isn’t Ten Club seating supposed to be by seniority?  Maybe if the ten club gave the pit to the most senior members who won tickets to each show, unless they opted out, we would have less problems.  It’s kind of unfair to make people who have been in the club from the beginning compete for the closest tickets with people who joined the club the day before the cutoff.  
    You think that would cause less problems……that sounds like a shit show waiting to happen. Just giving GA to the oldest members is super wack in my opinion. Everyone should be entitled to have a shot at the pit. 
    and provides zero reason for new members to join. @on2legs what's your 10C number?!
    New members still have the same opportunity to win tickets as the rest of the club.  If they want to be snobbish about having seats further away than 30 year members then maybe try the public sale.  
    I think it works now. Ga is a shot for everyone to get close. Seating is by seniority. Or before they had GA, they'd have some rows up front that were random so there was always a chance, but mostly by seniority. 
    I don’t disagree that most of the folks are doing the right thing.  So maybe just a random wristband to shake up the rail with some new faces.  
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,851
    You cut the line for GA. You cut the line for merch. Reality is that there are no penalties other than dirty looks. The band does not care. Security does not care. Vendors do not care. You might even make a few bucks off your merch. Good for you if you put in the time. If all you care about is your place in line and people gaming the system, you are not there for the right reasons IMHO. Be done with merch. Be done with waiting all day to get three rows closer and bringing kids to get a tambourine. Just go see the best rock band on the planet and have a good time. The rest is stuff and nonsense. 
  • gotthebottlegotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,547
    Get_Right said:
    You cut the line for GA. You cut the line for merch. Reality is that there are no penalties other than dirty looks. The band does not care. Security does not care. Vendors do not care. You might even make a few bucks off your merch. Good for you if you put in the time. If all you care about is your place in line and people gaming the system, you are not there for the right reasons IMHO. Be done with merch. Be done with waiting all day to get three rows closer and bringing kids to get a tambourine. Just go see the best rock band on the planet and have a good time. The rest is stuff and nonsense. 
    That's the best plan... I'm never gonna wait in merch again after Friday's nuttiness
  • PJ N DCPJ N DC Posts: 187
    Get_Right said:
    You cut the line for GA. You cut the line for merch. Reality is that there are no penalties other than dirty looks. The band does not care. Security does not care. Vendors do not care. You might even make a few bucks off your merch. Good for you if you put in the time. If all you care about is your place in line and people gaming the system, you are not there for the right reasons IMHO. Be done with merch. Be done with waiting all day to get three rows closer and bringing kids to get a tambourine. Just go see the best rock band on the planet and have a good time. The rest is stuff and nonsense. 
    100% The entitled "GA Crew" that travel from show to show are absolutely the reason the Pearl Jam experience is declining.  They send a couple of people to wait in the Merch Line and a few people to sit in the GA Line.  About an hour before Merch and Doors open up they come out of their tents and Ubers and walk up and join there friends and act like they belong there and that is not an issue.  I literally watched 20 people cut in the Merch Line and then lie that they were there the whole time.  These are the people that are flipping all the merch and taking away the ability for people to purchase at original pricing.  "Get Right" is exactly right as no one associated with the band gives a rats ass.  
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  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,917
    PJ N DC said:
    Get_Right said:
    You cut the line for GA. You cut the line for merch. Reality is that there are no penalties other than dirty looks. The band does not care. Security does not care. Vendors do not care. You might even make a few bucks off your merch. Good for you if you put in the time. If all you care about is your place in line and people gaming the system, you are not there for the right reasons IMHO. Be done with merch. Be done with waiting all day to get three rows closer and bringing kids to get a tambourine. Just go see the best rock band on the planet and have a good time. The rest is stuff and nonsense. 
    100% The entitled "GA Crew" that travel from show to show are absolutely the reason the Pearl Jam experience is declining.  They send a couple of people to wait in the Merch Line and a few people to sit in the GA Line.  About an hour before Merch and Doors open up they come out of their tents and Ubers and walk up and join there friends and act like they belong there and that is not an issue.  I literally watched 20 people cut in the Merch Line and then lie that they were there the whole time.  These are the people that are flipping all the merch and taking away the ability for people to purchase at original pricing.  "Get Right" is exactly right as no one associated with the band gives a rats ass.  
    They don’t care. They’ll read this whole thread and continue doing it. Egomaniacs. 
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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,833
    PJ N DC said:
    Get_Right said:
    You cut the line for GA. You cut the line for merch. Reality is that there are no penalties other than dirty looks. The band does not care. Security does not care. Vendors do not care. You might even make a few bucks off your merch. Good for you if you put in the time. If all you care about is your place in line and people gaming the system, you are not there for the right reasons IMHO. Be done with merch. Be done with waiting all day to get three rows closer and bringing kids to get a tambourine. Just go see the best rock band on the planet and have a good time. The rest is stuff and nonsense. 
    100% The entitled "GA Crew" that travel from show to show are absolutely the reason the Pearl Jam experience is declining.  They send a couple of people to wait in the Merch Line and a few people to sit in the GA Line.  About an hour before Merch and Doors open up they come out of their tents and Ubers and walk up and join there friends and act like they belong there and that is not an issue.  I literally watched 20 people cut in the Merch Line and then lie that they were there the whole time.  These are the people that are flipping all the merch and taking away the ability for people to purchase at original pricing.  "Get Right" is exactly right as no one associated with the band gives a rats ass.  
    They don’t care. They’ll read this whole thread and continue doing it. Egomaniacs. 
    Theyll read it, tell you that you shouldnt care.  There are more important things and just enjoy the music... there are many great people, a few bad apples yada yada yada.... then continue doing it.
  • BenglishBenglish GA USA Posts: 9
    reason #1138 i just sit out back with my dogs and beer everyday. I think Chris McCandless was onto something
    No kidding!
    Fucking society.....
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,851
    PJ N DC said:
    Get_Right said:
    You cut the line for GA. You cut the line for merch. Reality is that there are no penalties other than dirty looks. The band does not care. Security does not care. Vendors do not care. You might even make a few bucks off your merch. Good for you if you put in the time. If all you care about is your place in line and people gaming the system, you are not there for the right reasons IMHO. Be done with merch. Be done with waiting all day to get three rows closer and bringing kids to get a tambourine. Just go see the best rock band on the planet and have a good time. The rest is stuff and nonsense. 
    100% The entitled "GA Crew" that travel from show to show are absolutely the reason the Pearl Jam experience is declining.  They send a couple of people to wait in the Merch Line and a few people to sit in the GA Line.  About an hour before Merch and Doors open up they come out of their tents and Ubers and walk up and join there friends and act like they belong there and that is not an issue.  I literally watched 20 people cut in the Merch Line and then lie that they were there the whole time.  These are the people that are flipping all the merch and taking away the ability for people to purchase at original pricing.  "Get Right" is exactly right as no one associated with the band gives a rats ass.  

    I would argue the experience is declining because of the bad sound and predictable setlists. But just stay away from the merch hounds and the GA craziness and you will have a great time. They still put on the best rock shows. Having fun with friends is what it is about. Not merch, getting a tambourine or selfies with Ed in the background.
  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,420
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  • GlowGirlGlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 11,740
    PJ N DC said:
    Get_Right said:
    You cut the line for GA. You cut the line for merch. Reality is that there are no penalties other than dirty looks. The band does not care. Security does not care. Vendors do not care. You might even make a few bucks off your merch. Good for you if you put in the time. If all you care about is your place in line and people gaming the system, you are not there for the right reasons IMHO. Be done with merch. Be done with waiting all day to get three rows closer and bringing kids to get a tambourine. Just go see the best rock band on the planet and have a good time. The rest is stuff and nonsense. 
    100% The entitled "GA Crew" that travel from show to show are absolutely the reason the Pearl Jam experience is declining.  They send a couple of people to wait in the Merch Line and a few people to sit in the GA Line.  About an hour before Merch and Doors open up they come out of their tents and Ubers and walk up and join there friends and act like they belong there and that is not an issue.  I literally watched 20 people cut in the Merch Line and then lie that they were there the whole time.  These are the people that are flipping all the merch and taking away the ability for people to purchase at original pricing.  "Get Right" is exactly right as no one associated with the band gives a rats ass.  
    That is not true. We have to break down our tents and clear our stuff out very early in the morning on show days. Yesterday PJ security came to the GA line at the campsite to walk us over to line up at the venue at 9am. One person hadn’t taken their tent down yet and security made us wait until that tent was down before walking us to the venue. So no one is in their tents an hour before show time. I saw people cut in the merch line as well but none were from the camper group. 
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