Disappointed in Pearl Jam fans…

pjl44

Take it to the AMT

ComeToTX

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

I agree with OP. Just look who this country voted for. Tells you all you need to know. It’s past embarrassing and sad. People lost common sense, ethics and the ability to understand what the truth is. 

We’ve definitely become a “fuck you I got mine” society. 

JimmyV

We have encountered nothing but cool PJ people here in Pittsburgh...but we also haven't been lined up for anything or tried to stake out space in GA, etc. Been easy for them not to disappoint us. 

Bentleyspop

darwinstheory said:

StardogChamp79 said:

cblock4life said:

StardogChamp79 said:

kmcmanus said:

pjl44 said:

payling said:

Guy sitting next to me literally got punched in the mouth during Evenflow after explaining to some drunk asshole that the seat he was trying to sit in was taken. 

The question of whether Philly traveled for the Pittsburgh shows has been answered 

Only shows near the Midwest, only shows near the Northeast, nearest shows to Canada. Think there are a ton of travelers even by the standards of a band people already have to travel for

I tell you what! Pearl Jam fans from Wisconsin would never act this way 🧀 

Agree (unless you’re kidding).  We’ve traveled all over and always say the nicest people are in Wisconsin! 

No. I am not joking! I wish PJ played here more as we have a beautiful state and fantastic people!

And jean shorts for everyone!

I always tell people that if they ever see me wearing jorts that it's  time to take me out back and put me down. 

Hankj25

Jort the Jortless

danofun

D-Rod said:

Maybe it’s time to go back to assigned seating in the pit.   Between this and all the issues with same people on rail it might be time to retire the current GA. 

    Personally I’ve had GA 8 times and it’s been an amazing experience every time, but all good things will eventually come to an end. 

This is really simple, give up GA and all the best seats in the house become premium. GA allows for a much larger group of 10C members to experience the best spots in the house. Don't let a few bad seeds upset the apple cart. Plus, dont believe everything you read. There are always going to be trolling complainers on an internet forum. By and large, GA is a phenomenal experience and it would be a HUGE mistake to wish it away.

on2legs

Isn’t Ten Club seating supposed to be by seniority?  Maybe if the ten club gave the pit to the most senior members who won tickets to each show, unless they opted out, we would have less problems.  It’s kind of unfair to make people who have been in the club from the beginning compete for the closest tickets with people who joined the club the day before the cutoff.  

tylermoore

on2legs said:

Isn’t Ten Club seating supposed to be by seniority?  Maybe if the ten club gave the pit to the most senior members who won tickets to each show, unless they opted out, we would have less problems.  It’s kind of unfair to make people who have been in the club from the beginning compete for the closest tickets with people who joined the club the day before the cutoff.  

You think that would cause less problems……that sounds like a shit show waiting to happen. Just giving GA to the oldest members is super wack in my opinion. Everyone should be entitled to have a shot at the pit. 

Howdidthishappen

danofun said:

D-Rod said:

Maybe it’s time to go back to assigned seating in the pit.   Between this and all the issues with same people on rail it might be time to retire the current GA. 

    Personally I’ve had GA 8 times and it’s been an amazing experience every time, but all good things will eventually come to an end. 

This is really simple, give up GA and all the best seats in the house become premium. GA allows for a much larger group of 10C members to experience the best spots in the house. Don't let a few bad seeds upset the apple cart. Plus, dont believe everything you read. There are always going to be trolling complainers on an internet forum. By and large, GA is a phenomenal experience and it would be a HUGE mistake to wish it away.

This is so true. If GA goes away, those seats WILL NOT go to 10c, but will become PJ Premium at $1000 per. Let's not trade one issue for an even bigger one. 

JimmyV

OK, this is new...

https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/308193/to-the-band#latest

danofun

tylermoore said:

on2legs said:

Isn’t Ten Club seating supposed to be by seniority?  Maybe if the ten club gave the pit to the most senior members who won tickets to each show, unless they opted out, we would have less problems.  It’s kind of unfair to make people who have been in the club from the beginning compete for the closest tickets with people who joined the club the day before the cutoff.  

You think that would cause less problems……that sounds like a shit show waiting to happen. Just giving GA to the oldest members is super wack in my opinion. Everyone should be entitled to have a shot at the pit. 

and provides zero reason for new members to join. @on2legs what's your 10C number?!

on2legs

tylermoore said:

on2legs said:

Isn’t Ten Club seating supposed to be by seniority?  Maybe if the ten club gave the pit to the most senior members who won tickets to each show, unless they opted out, we would have less problems.  It’s kind of unfair to make people who have been in the club from the beginning compete for the closest tickets with people who joined the club the day before the cutoff.  

You think that would cause less problems……that sounds like a shit show waiting to happen. Just giving GA to the oldest members is super wack in my opinion. Everyone should be entitled to have a shot at the pit. 

A lot of people who are in the pit every show likely are using multiple memberships.  It’s the troublemakers within the traveling circus from show to show that cause the problem.  Return to a true system of issuing tickets by seniority and you would cut those troublemakers out of the loop. 

on2legs

danofun said:

tylermoore said:

on2legs said:

Isn’t Ten Club seating supposed to be by seniority?  Maybe if the ten club gave the pit to the most senior members who won tickets to each show, unless they opted out, we would have less problems.  It’s kind of unfair to make people who have been in the club from the beginning compete for the closest tickets with people who joined the club the day before the cutoff.  

You think that would cause less problems……that sounds like a shit show waiting to happen. Just giving GA to the oldest members is super wack in my opinion. Everyone should be entitled to have a shot at the pit. 

and provides zero reason for new members to join. @on2legs what's your 10C number?!

New members still have the same opportunity to win tickets as the rest of the club.  If they want to be snobbish about having seats further away than 30 year members then maybe try the public sale.  

tylermoore

on2legs said:

danofun said:

tylermoore said:

on2legs said:

Isn’t Ten Club seating supposed to be by seniority?  Maybe if the ten club gave the pit to the most senior members who won tickets to each show, unless they opted out, we would have less problems.  It’s kind of unfair to make people who have been in the club from the beginning compete for the closest tickets with people who joined the club the day before the cutoff.  

You think that would cause less problems……that sounds like a shit show waiting to happen. Just giving GA to the oldest members is super wack in my opinion. Everyone should be entitled to have a shot at the pit. 

and provides zero reason for new members to join. @on2legs what's your 10C number?!

New members still have the same opportunity to win tickets as the rest of the club.  If they want to be snobbish about having seats further away than 30 year members then maybe try the public sale.  

This is not the way…..sorry. You’re way off on this one 

danofun

tylermoore said:

on2legs said:

danofun said:

tylermoore said:

on2legs said:

Isn’t Ten Club seating supposed to be by seniority?  Maybe if the ten club gave the pit to the most senior members who won tickets to each show, unless they opted out, we would have less problems.  It’s kind of unfair to make people who have been in the club from the beginning compete for the closest tickets with people who joined the club the day before the cutoff.  

You think that would cause less problems……that sounds like a shit show waiting to happen. Just giving GA to the oldest members is super wack in my opinion. Everyone should be entitled to have a shot at the pit. 

and provides zero reason for new members to join. @on2legs what's your 10C number?!

New members still have the same opportunity to win tickets as the rest of the club.  If they want to be snobbish about having seats further away than 30 year members then maybe try the public sale.  

This is not the way…..sorry. You’re way off on this one 

☝️ I'm actually shocked at what I'm reading.

YAKIMATSU

Howdidthishappen said:

danofun said:

D-Rod said:

Maybe it’s time to go back to assigned seating in the pit.   Between this and all the issues with same people on rail it might be time to retire the current GA. 

    Personally I’ve had GA 8 times and it’s been an amazing experience every time, but all good things will eventually come to an end. 

This is really simple, give up GA and all the best seats in the house become premium. GA allows for a much larger group of 10C members to experience the best spots in the house. Don't let a few bad seeds upset the apple cart. Plus, dont believe everything you read. There are always going to be trolling complainers on an internet forum. By and large, GA is a phenomenal experience and it would be a HUGE mistake to wish it away.

This is so true. If GA goes away, those seats WILL NOT go to 10c, but will become PJ Premium at $1000 per. Let's not trade one issue for an even bigger one. 

Why not?  That is a false argument, and while may in fact happen it is most definitely not guaranteed.  The same amount of GA spots could be negotiated in exchange for the first say 15 rows.  Go back to rows 1,2 and 9,10 being lotto and all the others by seniority.  They have done this before, and it would be a nice change.  I've done GA multiple times and I also won front row back in the day.  The crowd is just as excited for both, but the front row seat is a winner all day everyday IMO. 

on2legs

tylermoore said:

on2legs said:

danofun said:

tylermoore said:

on2legs said:

Isn’t Ten Club seating supposed to be by seniority?  Maybe if the ten club gave the pit to the most senior members who won tickets to each show, unless they opted out, we would have less problems.  It’s kind of unfair to make people who have been in the club from the beginning compete for the closest tickets with people who joined the club the day before the cutoff.  

You think that would cause less problems……that sounds like a shit show waiting to happen. Just giving GA to the oldest members is super wack in my opinion. Everyone should be entitled to have a shot at the pit. 

and provides zero reason for new members to join. @on2legs what's your 10C number?!

New members still have the same opportunity to win tickets as the rest of the club.  If they want to be snobbish about having seats further away than 30 year members then maybe try the public sale.  

This is not the way…..sorry. You’re way off on this one 

It would hold true to the ten clubs longtime practice of distributing tickets by seniority.   And it would filter out the GA hooligans.  

YAKIMATSU

on2legs said:

tylermoore said:

on2legs said:

danofun said:

tylermoore said:

on2legs said:

Isn’t Ten Club seating supposed to be by seniority?  Maybe if the ten club gave the pit to the most senior members who won tickets to each show, unless they opted out, we would have less problems.  It’s kind of unfair to make people who have been in the club from the beginning compete for the closest tickets with people who joined the club the day before the cutoff.  

You think that would cause less problems……that sounds like a shit show waiting to happen. Just giving GA to the oldest members is super wack in my opinion. Everyone should be entitled to have a shot at the pit. 

and provides zero reason for new members to join. @on2legs what's your 10C number?!

New members still have the same opportunity to win tickets as the rest of the club.  If they want to be snobbish about having seats further away than 30 year members then maybe try the public sale.  

This is not the way…..sorry. You’re way off on this one 

It would hold true to the ten clubs longtime practice of distributing tickets by seniority.   And it would filter out the GA hooligans.  

I'm coming around to your way of thinking.  If people are joining the club merely for the opportunity of GA tickets something is out of whack.  We all join for different reasons, but that was not even a consideration both times I joined in '98 and again in '08.
I signed up for the newsletter and the OPPPORTUNITY to be able to get better than average seats at 1 show for my all-time favorite band.  I know times change but the quest for GA has diluted the club. 

How many new members would fly into a random city and book hotel stays without knowing where they were sitting??
I know many of us know and understand this and did it just for the OPPORTUNITY.   Times change blah, blah, blah.   

on2legs

YAKIMATSU said:

on2legs said:

tylermoore said:

on2legs said:

danofun said:

tylermoore said:

on2legs said:

Isn’t Ten Club seating supposed to be by seniority?  Maybe if the ten club gave the pit to the most senior members who won tickets to each show, unless they opted out, we would have less problems.  It’s kind of unfair to make people who have been in the club from the beginning compete for the closest tickets with people who joined the club the day before the cutoff.  

You think that would cause less problems……that sounds like a shit show waiting to happen. Just giving GA to the oldest members is super wack in my opinion. Everyone should be entitled to have a shot at the pit. 

and provides zero reason for new members to join. @on2legs what's your 10C number?!

New members still have the same opportunity to win tickets as the rest of the club.  If they want to be snobbish about having seats further away than 30 year members then maybe try the public sale.  

This is not the way…..sorry. You’re way off on this one 

It would hold true to the ten clubs longtime practice of distributing tickets by seniority.   And it would filter out the GA hooligans.  

I'm coming around to your way of thinking.  If people are joining the club merely for the opportunity of GA tickets something is out of whack.  We all join for different reasons, but that was not even a consideration both times I joined in '98 and again in '08.
I signed up for the newsletter and the OPPPORTUNITY to be able to get better than average seats at 1 show for my all-time favorite band.  I know times change but the quest for GA has diluted the club. 

👍🏻

I’m not sure what the right answer is to solve it.  Maybe there is no perfect solution.  But GA really screwed people in the club from the early years.  I only joined in 1997 so I don’t consider myself in that group.  Those early members were supposed to have the best tickets available to the club.  And GA pushes everyone’s tickets further back.  So if they’re going to have a pit they should at least put the people there from the early days in it.  

tylermoore

Y’all are silly to think that’s a reasonable strategy/smart for them to implement. I’m sorry but that’s just so far for the solution. 

If you think the entitlement for GA/Rail from certain groups is high now …that would by far make it worse. 

The “I’ve been a fan for this long so I deserve to stand here” crowd is already bad enough at times