brianlux
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Well, allrighty then, let's shut this thread down. It did not achieve the goal I was hoping for which was to show gratitude for and examples of those who stand up for democracy.
"Don't give in to the lies. Don't give in to the fear. Hold on to the truth. And to hope."
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Well, allrighty then, let's shut this thread down. It did not achieve the goal I was hoping for which was to show gratitude for and examples of those who stand up for democracy.
Wow. So, because someone suggests we show support to our military who literally defend democracy on the daily, and not to Anonymous, you want to close your thread? The thread was titled Support Defenders of Democracy.
Or are trying to control who can post in a public forum by screaming for mods every day?
I do it because it pisses me off when people trash threads. But since you asked kindly, OK, it stays unless it gets trolled. I'm over it with trolling. Standing up to trolling is one of the two freedoms we have left in this country. The other is committing suicide, and no way am I going there.
"Don't give in to the lies. Don't give in to the fear. Hold on to the truth. And to hope."
I do it because it pisses me off when people trash threads. But since you asked kindly, OK, it stays unless it gets trolled. I'm over it with trolling. Standing up to trolling is one of the two freedoms we have left in this country. The other is committing suicide, and no way am I going there.
Ok, but shutting down a discussion does let them win, no? If that is true, then how is that standing up to them? I'm curious as to your thoughts on that?
It took me a long time to come to understand something about the Constitution, long after I was out of USN. As distasteful and downright abhorrent folks can be in their speech, I raised my hand and swore an oath to preserve that very thing. Someones right to say shitty things. I then have the same right to respond with a counter argument. Speech isn't free, the consequences are the price that gets paid for that speech.
To me a defender of Democracy is one who stands up for the very things that rub you the wrong way. Because these things are a part of the larger whole. Cant take this piece meal. Its an all or nothing proposition from where I sit.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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brianlux
Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,643
That's great! Now let's ask Ben Wikler to get of X because You-Know-Who profits from X (hint- it's one of the guys who Wikler wants us to fight back against.)
I do it because it pisses me off when people trash threads. But since you asked kindly, OK, it stays unless it gets trolled. I'm over it with trolling. Standing up to trolling is one of the two freedoms we have left in this country. The other is committing suicide, and no way am I going there.
Ok, but shutting down a discussion does let them win, no? If that is true, then how is that standing up to them? I'm curious as to your thoughts on that?
It took me a long time to come to understand something about the Constitution, long after I was out of USN. As distasteful and downright abhorrent folks can be in their speech, I raised my hand and swore an oath to preserve that very thing. Someones right to say shitty things. I then have the same right to respond with a counter argument. Speech isn't free, the consequences are the price that gets paid for that speech.
To me a defender of Democracy is one who stands up for the very things that rub you the wrong way. Because these things are a part of the larger whole. Cant take this piece meal. Its an all or nothing proposition from where I sit.
They can win all they want because sometimes winning is losing.
"To me a defender of Democracy is one who stands up for the very things that rub you the wrong way."
Really? Sorry, but I can't stand up for trashing the environment, abusing minorities and women, making life miserable for migrants and LGBTQ people, or put a billionaire in charge of the country. And I have zero respect for people who are OK with those things.
"Don't give in to the lies. Don't give in to the fear. Hold on to the truth. And to hope."
That's great! Now let's ask Ben Wikler to get of X because You-Know-Who profits from X (hint- it's one of the guys who Wikler wants us to fight back against.)
I do it because it pisses me off when people trash threads. But since you asked kindly, OK, it stays unless it gets trolled. I'm over it with trolling. Standing up to trolling is one of the two freedoms we have left in this country. The other is committing suicide, and no way am I going there.
Ok, but shutting down a discussion does let them win, no? If that is true, then how is that standing up to them? I'm curious as to your thoughts on that?
It took me a long time to come to understand something about the Constitution, long after I was out of USN. As distasteful and downright abhorrent folks can be in their speech, I raised my hand and swore an oath to preserve that very thing. Someones right to say shitty things. I then have the same right to respond with a counter argument. Speech isn't free, the consequences are the price that gets paid for that speech.
To me a defender of Democracy is one who stands up for the very things that rub you the wrong way. Because these things are a part of the larger whole. Cant take this piece meal. Its an all or nothing proposition from where I sit.
They can win all they want because sometimes winning is losing.
"To me a defender of Democracy is one who stands up for the very things that rub you the wrong way."
Really? Sorry, but I can't stand up for trashing the environment, abusing minorities and women, making life miserable for migrants and LGBTQ people, or put a billionaire in charge of the country. And I have zero respect for people who are OK with those things.
not ok with any of what you describe. our founding document allows for those things though.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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brianlux
Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,643
That's great! Now let's ask Ben Wikler to get of X because You-Know-Who profits from X (hint- it's one of the guys who Wikler wants us to fight back against.)
I do it because it pisses me off when people trash threads. But since you asked kindly, OK, it stays unless it gets trolled. I'm over it with trolling. Standing up to trolling is one of the two freedoms we have left in this country. The other is committing suicide, and no way am I going there.
Ok, but shutting down a discussion does let them win, no? If that is true, then how is that standing up to them? I'm curious as to your thoughts on that?
It took me a long time to come to understand something about the Constitution, long after I was out of USN. As distasteful and downright abhorrent folks can be in their speech, I raised my hand and swore an oath to preserve that very thing. Someones right to say shitty things. I then have the same right to respond with a counter argument. Speech isn't free, the consequences are the price that gets paid for that speech.
To me a defender of Democracy is one who stands up for the very things that rub you the wrong way. Because these things are a part of the larger whole. Cant take this piece meal. Its an all or nothing proposition from where I sit.
They can win all they want because sometimes winning is losing.
"To me a defender of Democracy is one who stands up for the very things that rub you the wrong way."
Really? Sorry, but I can't stand up for trashing the environment, abusing minorities and women, making life miserable for migrants and LGBTQ people, or put a billionaire in charge of the country. And I have zero respect for people who are OK with those things.
not ok with any of what you describe. our founding document allows for those things though.
all in or all out. no in between.
I hope we still have a constitution.
"Don't give in to the lies. Don't give in to the fear. Hold on to the truth. And to hope."
That's great! Now let's ask Ben Wikler to get of X because You-Know-Who profits from X (hint- it's one of the guys who Wikler wants us to fight back against.)
I do it because it pisses me off when people trash threads. But since you asked kindly, OK, it stays unless it gets trolled. I'm over it with trolling. Standing up to trolling is one of the two freedoms we have left in this country. The other is committing suicide, and no way am I going there.
Ok, but shutting down a discussion does let them win, no? If that is true, then how is that standing up to them? I'm curious as to your thoughts on that?
It took me a long time to come to understand something about the Constitution, long after I was out of USN. As distasteful and downright abhorrent folks can be in their speech, I raised my hand and swore an oath to preserve that very thing. Someones right to say shitty things. I then have the same right to respond with a counter argument. Speech isn't free, the consequences are the price that gets paid for that speech.
To me a defender of Democracy is one who stands up for the very things that rub you the wrong way. Because these things are a part of the larger whole. Cant take this piece meal. Its an all or nothing proposition from where I sit.
They can win all they want because sometimes winning is losing.
"To me a defender of Democracy is one who stands up for the very things that rub you the wrong way."
Really? Sorry, but I can't stand up for trashing the environment, abusing minorities and women, making life miserable for migrants and LGBTQ people, or put a billionaire in charge of the country. And I have zero respect for people who are OK with those things.
not ok with any of what you describe. our founding document allows for those things though.
all in or all out. no in between.
I hope we still have a constitution.
We do it’s been renamed P25! That old outdated scribbled piece of paper from the 17th century is worthless!
jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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brianlux
Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,643
That's great! Now let's ask Ben Wikler to get of X because You-Know-Who profits from X (hint- it's one of the guys who Wikler wants us to fight back against.)
I do it because it pisses me off when people trash threads. But since you asked kindly, OK, it stays unless it gets trolled. I'm over it with trolling. Standing up to trolling is one of the two freedoms we have left in this country. The other is committing suicide, and no way am I going there.
Ok, but shutting down a discussion does let them win, no? If that is true, then how is that standing up to them? I'm curious as to your thoughts on that?
It took me a long time to come to understand something about the Constitution, long after I was out of USN. As distasteful and downright abhorrent folks can be in their speech, I raised my hand and swore an oath to preserve that very thing. Someones right to say shitty things. I then have the same right to respond with a counter argument. Speech isn't free, the consequences are the price that gets paid for that speech.
To me a defender of Democracy is one who stands up for the very things that rub you the wrong way. Because these things are a part of the larger whole. Cant take this piece meal. Its an all or nothing proposition from where I sit.
They can win all they want because sometimes winning is losing.
"To me a defender of Democracy is one who stands up for the very things that rub you the wrong way."
Really? Sorry, but I can't stand up for trashing the environment, abusing minorities and women, making life miserable for migrants and LGBTQ people, or put a billionaire in charge of the country. And I have zero respect for people who are OK with those things.
not ok with any of what you describe. our founding document allows for those things though.
all in or all out. no in between.
I hope we still have a constitution.
We do it’s been renamed P25! That old outdated scribbled piece of paper from the 17th century is worthless!
The good thing about P25, of course, is that it will give all of us working stiffs or semi-retired working stiffs a great deal of pride in knowing we will be giving even more support to the billionaires whose main goal in life is to give us purpose... to make them MORE rich.
OH BOY!
"Don't give in to the lies. Don't give in to the fear. Hold on to the truth. And to hope."
That's great! Now let's ask Ben Wikler to get of X because You-Know-Who profits from X (hint- it's one of the guys who Wikler wants us to fight back against.)
I do it because it pisses me off when people trash threads. But since you asked kindly, OK, it stays unless it gets trolled. I'm over it with trolling. Standing up to trolling is one of the two freedoms we have left in this country. The other is committing suicide, and no way am I going there.
Ok, but shutting down a discussion does let them win, no? If that is true, then how is that standing up to them? I'm curious as to your thoughts on that?
It took me a long time to come to understand something about the Constitution, long after I was out of USN. As distasteful and downright abhorrent folks can be in their speech, I raised my hand and swore an oath to preserve that very thing. Someones right to say shitty things. I then have the same right to respond with a counter argument. Speech isn't free, the consequences are the price that gets paid for that speech.
To me a defender of Democracy is one who stands up for the very things that rub you the wrong way. Because these things are a part of the larger whole. Cant take this piece meal. Its an all or nothing proposition from where I sit.
They can win all they want because sometimes winning is losing.
"To me a defender of Democracy is one who stands up for the very things that rub you the wrong way."
Really? Sorry, but I can't stand up for trashing the environment, abusing minorities and women, making life miserable for migrants and LGBTQ people, or put a billionaire in charge of the country. And I have zero respect for people who are OK with those things.
not ok with any of what you describe. our founding document allows for those things though.
all in or all out. no in between.
I hope we still have a constitution.
We do it’s been renamed P25! That old outdated scribbled piece of paper from the 17th century is worthless!
The good thing about P25, of course, is that it will give all of us working stiffs or semi-retired working stiffs a great deal of pride in knowing we will be giving even more support to the billionaires whose main goal in life is to give us purpose... to make them MORE rich.
OH BOY!
😂😂 yes please take my $$$$$
jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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brianlux
Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,643
That's great! Now let's ask Ben Wikler to get of X because You-Know-Who profits from X (hint- it's one of the guys who Wikler wants us to fight back against.)
I do it because it pisses me off when people trash threads. But since you asked kindly, OK, it stays unless it gets trolled. I'm over it with trolling. Standing up to trolling is one of the two freedoms we have left in this country. The other is committing suicide, and no way am I going there.
Ok, but shutting down a discussion does let them win, no? If that is true, then how is that standing up to them? I'm curious as to your thoughts on that?
It took me a long time to come to understand something about the Constitution, long after I was out of USN. As distasteful and downright abhorrent folks can be in their speech, I raised my hand and swore an oath to preserve that very thing. Someones right to say shitty things. I then have the same right to respond with a counter argument. Speech isn't free, the consequences are the price that gets paid for that speech.
To me a defender of Democracy is one who stands up for the very things that rub you the wrong way. Because these things are a part of the larger whole. Cant take this piece meal. Its an all or nothing proposition from where I sit.
They can win all they want because sometimes winning is losing.
"To me a defender of Democracy is one who stands up for the very things that rub you the wrong way."
Really? Sorry, but I can't stand up for trashing the environment, abusing minorities and women, making life miserable for migrants and LGBTQ people, or put a billionaire in charge of the country. And I have zero respect for people who are OK with those things.
not ok with any of what you describe. our founding document allows for those things though.
all in or all out. no in between.
I hope we still have a constitution.
We do it’s been renamed P25! That old outdated scribbled piece of paper from the 17th century is worthless!
The good thing about P25, of course, is that it will give all of us working stiffs or semi-retired working stiffs a great deal of pride in knowing we will be giving even more support to the billionaires whose main goal in life is to give us purpose... to make them MORE rich.
OH BOY!
😂😂 yes please take my $$$$$
Gladly!
"Don't give in to the lies. Don't give in to the fear. Hold on to the truth. And to hope."
Shout out to US District Judge Paul Engelmayer for protecting democracy. See folks, you are all safe now. Luckily we have an unbreakable democracy where checks and balances prevail.
On to the next fake outrage. Tariffs sent you all spiraling, then never happened. Elon Musk is the new flavor of the week, thats not going to happen. What is on the menu for week of 2/10?
We will win, America and world. Just not in the voice of Chuck Schumers embarrassing chant.
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brianlux
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I would be remiss in not mentioning Dan Rather. I can think of few finer true great defenders of Democracy.
"Don't give in to the lies. Don't give in to the fear. Hold on to the truth. And to hope."
-Jim Acosta
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brianlux
Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,643
And here's another superb defender of Democracy, Rob Bonta!
In
the United States, no one is above the law—not even the President. In
just a few weeks, the Trump Administration has demonstrated that they
are willing to throw that basic tenet of our democracy out the window. I
refuse to let them.
On
Friday, I sued the Trump Administration for illegally providing Elon
Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) unauthorized access to
the U.S. government’s payment system and Americans’ private and
sensitive information. Within hours, a federal district court granted
our request, immediately blocking access for the DOGE team while our
court case proceeds.
That
same day, I asked another federal district court to ensure that the
Trump Administration fully complies with an order to reinstate the $3
trillion in federal funds that they attempted to freeze more than a week
ago. By refusing to fully comply with the original court order, the
administration has jeopardized critical state funding that strengthens
domestic energy security and supports critical infrastructure projects. I
also asked the court to block the administration from instituting the
funding freeze that impacts our state’s ability to provide healthcare
services, feed and educate children, and support the elderly.
As
Attorney General, it’s my job to hold all people accountable to the
law—even the President. You’ve got my word that I always will.
In your service,
Rob
"Don't give in to the lies. Don't give in to the fear. Hold on to the truth. And to hope."
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I do it because it pisses me off when people trash threads. But since you asked kindly, OK, it stays unless it gets trolled. I'm over it with trolling. Standing up to trolling is one of the two freedoms we have left in this country. The other is committing suicide, and no way am I going there.
https://x.com/benwikler/status/1887950095318171879?t=Qi_ThlKGWpzDyH5L5qILkQ&s=19
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
That's great! Now let's ask Ben Wikler to get of X because You-Know-Who profits from X (hint- it's one of the guys who Wikler wants us to fight back against.)
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I hope we still have a constitution.
https://steady.substack.com/p/the-purge
In the United States, no one is above the law—not even the President. In just a few weeks, the Trump Administration has demonstrated that they are willing to throw that basic tenet of our democracy out the window. I refuse to let them.
On Friday, I sued the Trump Administration for illegally providing Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) unauthorized access to the U.S. government’s payment system and Americans’ private and sensitive information. Within hours, a federal district court granted our request, immediately blocking access for the DOGE team while our court case proceeds.
That same day, I asked another federal district court to ensure that the Trump Administration fully complies with an order to reinstate the $3 trillion in federal funds that they attempted to freeze more than a week ago. By refusing to fully comply with the original court order, the administration has jeopardized critical state funding that strengthens domestic energy security and supports critical infrastructure projects. I also asked the court to block the administration from instituting the funding freeze that impacts our state’s ability to provide healthcare services, feed and educate children, and support the elderly.
As Attorney General, it’s my job to hold all people accountable to the law—even the President. You’ve got my word that I always will.
In your service,
Rob