Harris was the sitting VP. Come on. You have to acknowledge that obviously changes things. Maybe they should have let Hillary run again? 😂
Senator Hillary Clinton (pre-emails and additional actions/inactions, etc that hurt her candidacy in 2016) lost the Dem primary in 2008 because of other reasons, so it's not outside the realm of possibility of her losing other elections (2016).
I don't recall what Senator Kamala Harris's popularity was in 2020 (when she didn't have one electoral vote), so it's not outside the realm of possibility that she would lose other elections (2024).
Vice President Harris having four years of experience as VP definitely made a positive difference for her as a candidate in 2024. I don't know how she would've fared in an open primary, but if she lost, by lack of votes by Dems, would it be okay because the Dems said no thanks, but in a general election her loss is not okay?
hard to have any delegates when you drop out before Iowa.
Very.
The support was not there for her from the Democrat party and Democrat voters in that primary and that's okay, but losing in a general election is not okay because of other factors?
yes, top of ticket 100 days out. a county or two in Pa and Maricopa Az are conducting an inquiry in the counting process as there were some glitches at that critical time. Fuckstick made certain statements suggesting shenanigans.
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You might have seen the White House rebuttal regarding Trump's assertion that grants were spent on transgender mice. They put up a page on their website citing the grants. Well, I'm retired and have the time, so I looked up each grant on the usa spending website. Here are the findings. (1/10)
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
The US is a threat to the world (and obviously very much to Ukraine and Canada). And can not be trusted, in any way whatsoever. We all should have known when they didn't even have humane health care for it's citizens. What kind of a country doesn't have that? Obviously one that also can give this kind of power to one crazy man. One Trump.
"The US is a threat to the world". Your last post on this thread said that as well.
That reminds me of when Russia was a major enemy of the U.S. and you'd hear Americans all the time say things like "You can't trust those commies", "Kill the commies," etc. All kinds of hatred for those people like they were all the same. I met some Russian interpreters from Moscow when the Soviet Union collapsed and they were nothing at all like what the stereotypical beliefs were about those people. I stayed up all night talking to them and they were amazing and good souls.
We're not all Trump.
"Don't give in to the lies. Don't give in to the fear. Hold on to the truth. And to hope."
The US is a threat to the world (and obviously very much to Ukraine and Canada). And can not be trusted, in any way whatsoever. We all should have known when they didn't even have humane health care for it's citizens. What kind of a country doesn't have that? Obviously one that also can give this kind of power to one crazy man. One Trump.
"The US is a threat to the world". Your last post on this thread said that as well.
That reminds me of when Russia was a major enemy of the U.S. and you'd hear Americans all the time say things like "You can't trust those commies", "Kill the commies," etc. All kinds of hatred for those people like they were all the same. I met some Russian interpreters from Moscow when the Soviet Union collapsed and they were nothing at all like what the stereotypical beliefs were about those people. I stayed up all night talking to them and they were amazing and good souls.
We're not all Trump.
Weird when Norm McDonald has that bit about Germany starting a war against the whole world, that he didn’t specify when mentioning Germany that he didn’t ment every person in Germany starting a war against the whole world.
Made it really hard for me to understand what he was saying. Why would anyone use the name of the country like that without specifying that not every baker, farmer and fussball player in Germany started the war?
Or when they say ”Sweden has won this years eurovision song contest”. I didn’t personally win? Many of us didn’t? When ABBA won in -76 it was them four and their crew. Why doesn’t they specify that a lot of people in Sweden aren’t ABBA and should be excluded?
It’s so hard to understand.
And why are people in the Ukraine thread allowed to say ”Russia started the war” or ”Russia is the aggressor”. DO THEY REALLY MEAN EVERY RUSSIAN CITIZEN. STARTED THE WAR.
So no Brian. I wouldn’t argue that you as an individual is a threat to the whole world. I’m pretty sure you are removed from the sentiment that the US is a threat to the world.
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The US is a threat to the world (and obviously very much to Ukraine and Canada). And can not be trusted, in any way whatsoever. We all should have known when they didn't even have humane health care for it's citizens. What kind of a country doesn't have that? Obviously one that also can give this kind of power to one crazy man. One Trump.
"The US is a threat to the world". Your last post on this thread said that as well.
That reminds me of when Russia was a major enemy of the U.S. and you'd hear Americans all the time say things like "You can't trust those commies", "Kill the commies," etc. All kinds of hatred for those people like they were all the same. I met some Russian interpreters from Moscow when the Soviet Union collapsed and they were nothing at all like what the stereotypical beliefs were about those people. I stayed up all night talking to them and they were amazing and good souls.
We're not all Trump.
Weird when Norm McDonald has that bit about Germany starting a war against the whole world, that he didn’t specify when mentioning Germany that he didn’t ment every person in Germany starting a war against the whole world.
Made it really hard for me to understand what he was saying. Why would anyone use the name of the country like that without specifying that not every baker, farmer and fussball player in Germany started the war?
Or when they say ”Sweden has won this years eurovision song contest”. I didn’t personally win? Many of us didn’t? When ABBA won in -76 it was them four and their crew. Why doesn’t they specify that a lot of people in Sweden aren’t ABBA and should be excluded?
It’s so hard to understand.
And why are people in the Ukraine thread allowed to say ”Russia started the war” or ”Russia is the aggressor”. DO THEY REALLY MEAN EVERY RUSSIAN CITIZEN. STARTED THE WAR.
So no Brian. I wouldn’t argue that you as an individual is a threat to the whole world. I’m pretty sure you are removed from the sentiment that the US is a threat to the world.
Good points and clarification, thanks!
If I sounded defensive, it's at least in part because I am ashamed that so many here in the U.S. do side with the current people in power who are a threat. I wish there was some way those of us who are not in favor of that threat could tell the rest of the world how we feel. I recently bought an LP that came from France (a French pressing of Roxy Music's Avalon) and I actually thought about telling the seller, "Oh by the way, not all of us here in the U.S. are horrible people, and many of us admire the European stance against tyranny!" But I stuck with business because I don't know the seller.
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Brian, I'm pretty sure literally everyone knows there are a lot of Americans who are againt the Trump administration. The whole world is basically force-fed its entire crazy election campaign drama for 2 our of every 4 years of our lives, lol.
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What a god damn shame to be trying to erase history! This petulant prick is all about retribution his approval ratings are in the dumps he knows most of the world hates him so it’s all about getting back at people
Harris was the sitting VP. Come on. You have to acknowledge that obviously changes things. Maybe they should have let Hillary run again? 😂
Senator Hillary Clinton (pre-emails and additional actions/inactions, etc that hurt her candidacy in 2016) lost the Dem primary in 2008 because of other reasons, so it's not outside the realm of possibility of her losing other elections (2016).
I don't recall what Senator Kamala Harris's popularity was in 2020 (when she didn't have one electoral vote), so it's not outside the realm of possibility that she would lose other elections (2024).
Vice President Harris having four years of experience as VP definitely made a positive difference for her as a candidate in 2024. I don't know how she would've fared in an open primary, but if she lost, by lack of votes by Dems, would it be okay because the Dems said no thanks, but in a general election her loss is not okay?
hard to have any delegates when you drop out before Iowa.
Very.
The support was not there for her from the Democrat party and Democrat voters in that primary and that's okay, but losing in a general election is not okay because of other factors?
yes, top of ticket 100 days out. a county or two in Pa and Maricopa Az are conducting an inquiry in the counting process as there were some glitches at that critical time. Fuckstick made certain statements suggesting shenanigans.
imo she and walz left it all on the field
nothing to be ashamed of imo.
The primary thing is so funny to me. I love how these people just gloss over the fact that she was on the ticket in 2020 when they won the election.
Harris was the sitting VP. Come on. You have to acknowledge that obviously changes things. Maybe they should have let Hillary run again? 😂
Senator Hillary Clinton (pre-emails and additional actions/inactions, etc that hurt her candidacy in 2016) lost the Dem primary in 2008 because of other reasons, so it's not outside the realm of possibility of her losing other elections (2016).
I don't recall what Senator Kamala Harris's popularity was in 2020 (when she didn't have one electoral vote), so it's not outside the realm of possibility that she would lose other elections (2024).
Vice President Harris having four years of experience as VP definitely made a positive difference for her as a candidate in 2024. I don't know how she would've fared in an open primary, but if she lost, by lack of votes by Dems, would it be okay because the Dems said no thanks, but in a general election her loss is not okay?
hard to have any delegates when you drop out before Iowa.
Very.
The support was not there for her from the Democrat party and Democrat voters in that primary and that's okay, but losing in a general election is not okay because of other factors?
yes, top of ticket 100 days out. a county or two in Pa and Maricopa Az are conducting an inquiry in the counting process as there were some glitches at that critical time. Fuckstick made certain statements suggesting shenanigans.
imo she and walz left it all on the field
nothing to be ashamed of imo.
The primary thing is so funny to me. I love how these people just gloss over the fact that she was on the ticket in 2020 when they won the election.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Harris was the sitting VP. Come on. You have to acknowledge that obviously changes things. Maybe they should have let Hillary run again? 😂
Senator Hillary Clinton (pre-emails and additional actions/inactions, etc that hurt her candidacy in 2016) lost the Dem primary in 2008 because of other reasons, so it's not outside the realm of possibility of her losing other elections (2016).
I don't recall what Senator Kamala Harris's popularity was in 2020 (when she didn't have one electoral vote), so it's not outside the realm of possibility that she would lose other elections (2024).
Vice President Harris having four years of experience as VP definitely made a positive difference for her as a candidate in 2024. I don't know how she would've fared in an open primary, but if she lost, by lack of votes by Dems, would it be okay because the Dems said no thanks, but in a general election her loss is not okay?
hard to have any delegates when you drop out before Iowa.
Very.
The support was not there for her from the Democrat party and Democrat voters in that primary and that's okay, but losing in a general election is not okay because of other factors?
yes, top of ticket 100 days out. a county or two in Pa and Maricopa Az are conducting an inquiry in the counting process as there were some glitches at that critical time. Fuckstick made certain statements suggesting shenanigans.
imo she and walz left it all on the field
nothing to be ashamed of imo.
The primary thing is so funny to me. I love how these people just gloss over the fact that she was on the ticket in 2020 when they won the election.
yep...given the situation it was the best move
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Harris was the sitting VP. Come on. You have to acknowledge that obviously changes things. Maybe they should have let Hillary run again? 😂
Senator Hillary Clinton (pre-emails and additional actions/inactions, etc that hurt her candidacy in 2016) lost the Dem primary in 2008 because of other reasons, so it's not outside the realm of possibility of her losing other elections (2016).
I don't recall what Senator Kamala Harris's popularity was in 2020 (when she didn't have one electoral vote), so it's not outside the realm of possibility that she would lose other elections (2024).
Vice President Harris having four years of experience as VP definitely made a positive difference for her as a candidate in 2024. I don't know how she would've fared in an open primary, but if she lost, by lack of votes by Dems, would it be okay because the Dems said no thanks, but in a general election her loss is not okay?
hard to have any delegates when you drop out before Iowa.
Very.
The support was not there for her from the Democrat party and Democrat voters in that primary and that's okay, but losing in a general election is not okay because of other factors?
yes, top of ticket 100 days out. a county or two in Pa and Maricopa Az are conducting an inquiry in the counting process as there were some glitches at that critical time. Fuckstick made certain statements suggesting shenanigans.
imo she and walz left it all on the field
nothing to be ashamed of imo.
The primary thing is so funny to me. I love how these people just gloss over the fact that she was on the ticket in 2020 when they won the election.
and was on the ticket before he dropped out
So stupid. It was a close election that could have gone either way. Nobody got destroyed.
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Brian, I'm pretty sure literally everyone knows there are a lot of Americans who are againt the Trump administration. The whole world is basically force-fed its entire crazy election campaign drama for 2 our of every 4 years of our lives, lol.
Which I'm guessing was also a bit confounding considering the rest of the world compresses their election process to a much shorter time. If the U.S. can generally be criticized as a whole for something, it is that we have a political system has become dysfunctional and that craves attention.
"Don't give in to the lies. Don't give in to the fear. Hold on to the truth. And to hope."
Harris was the sitting VP. Come on. You have to acknowledge that obviously changes things. Maybe they should have let Hillary run again? 😂
Senator Hillary Clinton (pre-emails and additional actions/inactions, etc that hurt her candidacy in 2016) lost the Dem primary in 2008 because of other reasons, so it's not outside the realm of possibility of her losing other elections (2016).
I don't recall what Senator Kamala Harris's popularity was in 2020 (when she didn't have one electoral vote), so it's not outside the realm of possibility that she would lose other elections (2024).
Vice President Harris having four years of experience as VP definitely made a positive difference for her as a candidate in 2024. I don't know how she would've fared in an open primary, but if she lost, by lack of votes by Dems, would it be okay because the Dems said no thanks, but in a general election her loss is not okay?
hard to have any delegates when you drop out before Iowa.
Very.
The support was not there for her from the Democrat party and Democrat voters in that primary and that's okay, but losing in a general election is not okay because of other factors?
yes, top of ticket 100 days out. a county or two in Pa and Maricopa Az are conducting an inquiry in the counting process as there were some glitches at that critical time. Fuckstick made certain statements suggesting shenanigans.
imo she and walz left it all on the field
nothing to be ashamed of imo.
The primary thing is so funny to me. I love how these people just gloss over the fact that she was on the ticket in 2020 when they won the election.
My point is for President in 2020 there were several candidates that Democrats preferred to then Senator Harris for whatever reasons, so when it came to the presidential general election in 2024, it shouldn't be a surprise that she wasn't the preferred candidate for the same and additional reasons.
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Harris was the sitting VP. Come on. You have to acknowledge that obviously changes things. Maybe they should have let Hillary run again? 😂
Senator Hillary Clinton (pre-emails and additional actions/inactions, etc that hurt her candidacy in 2016) lost the Dem primary in 2008 because of other reasons, so it's not outside the realm of possibility of her losing other elections (2016).
I don't recall what Senator Kamala Harris's popularity was in 2020 (when she didn't have one electoral vote), so it's not outside the realm of possibility that she would lose other elections (2024).
Vice President Harris having four years of experience as VP definitely made a positive difference for her as a candidate in 2024. I don't know how she would've fared in an open primary, but if she lost, by lack of votes by Dems, would it be okay because the Dems said no thanks, but in a general election her loss is not okay?
hard to have any delegates when you drop out before Iowa.
Very.
The support was not there for her from the Democrat party and Democrat voters in that primary and that's okay, but losing in a general election is not okay because of other factors?
yes, top of ticket 100 days out. a county or two in Pa and Maricopa Az are conducting an inquiry in the counting process as there were some glitches at that critical time. Fuckstick made certain statements suggesting shenanigans.
imo she and walz left it all on the field
nothing to be ashamed of imo.
The primary thing is so funny to me. I love how these people just gloss over the fact that she was on the ticket in 2020 when they won the election.
My point is for President in 2020 there were several candidates that Democrats preferred to then Senator Harris for whatever reasons, so when it came to the presidential general election in 2024, it shouldn't be a surprise that she wasn't the preferred candidate for the same and additional reasons.
Okay. Well my point is this: so fucking what? 81 million people then voted for her and Biden in the general. This is also noteworthy because Biden was the oldest candidate at the time so a lot of them were under the assumption she'd likely be on the ticket in 2024.
In '08 and a few times prior Democrats also preferred someone else to Joe Biden, but then also voted for him to win the 2020 election.
Before winning in '88 Republicans preferred someone else other than George HW Bush. He then went on to become president.
Before winning in '80 Republicans preferred someone else other than Ronald Regan. He then went on to become president.
Your point would be valid if context and history did not exist.
Harris was the sitting VP. Come on. You have to acknowledge that obviously changes things. Maybe they should have let Hillary run again? 😂
Senator Hillary Clinton (pre-emails and additional actions/inactions, etc that hurt her candidacy in 2016) lost the Dem primary in 2008 because of other reasons, so it's not outside the realm of possibility of her losing other elections (2016).
I don't recall what Senator Kamala Harris's popularity was in 2020 (when she didn't have one electoral vote), so it's not outside the realm of possibility that she would lose other elections (2024).
Vice President Harris having four years of experience as VP definitely made a positive difference for her as a candidate in 2024. I don't know how she would've fared in an open primary, but if she lost, by lack of votes by Dems, would it be okay because the Dems said no thanks, but in a general election her loss is not okay?
hard to have any delegates when you drop out before Iowa.
Very.
The support was not there for her from the Democrat party and Democrat voters in that primary and that's okay, but losing in a general election is not okay because of other factors?
yes, top of ticket 100 days out. a county or two in Pa and Maricopa Az are conducting an inquiry in the counting process as there were some glitches at that critical time. Fuckstick made certain statements suggesting shenanigans.
imo she and walz left it all on the field
nothing to be ashamed of imo.
The primary thing is so funny to me. I love how these people just gloss over the fact that she was on the ticket in 2020 when they won the election.
My point is for President in 2020 there were several candidates that Democrats preferred to then Senator Harris for whatever reasons, so when it came to the presidential general election in 2024, it shouldn't be a surprise that she wasn't the preferred candidate for the same and additional reasons.
The party got behind it though. It also seems like campaign finance laws may have had something to do with it. Since she was already on the ticket, etc.
Regardless...not her fault that too many dumbasses either didn't vote or voted for Cheeto fuckface
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Someone like Trump should have lost to a rock or no one on the democratic ticket.
You guys should focus on why he - with everything he has shown - can win in your country and what that entails, and not blame whoever normal was put against him for not meeting the criteria to get votes from fascist-enablers and supporters. Something odd about needing this superhuman-of-charisma to win when the other person can't even count to ten.
BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT SUPERHUMAN WAS BERNIE. WOOHOOOO.
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Someone like Trump should have lost to a rock or no one on the democratic ticket.
You guys should focus on why he - with everything he has shown - can win in your country and what that entails, and not blame whoever normal was put against him for not meeting the criteria to get votes from fascist-enablers and supporters. Something odd about needing this superhuman-of-charisma to win when the other person can't even count to ten.
BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT SUPERHUMAN WAS BERNIE. WOOHOOOO.
Which is why Biden convinced himself to stay in. He couldn't imagine anyone losing to him.
My opinion... 1. Disinformation: mostly Russia I'm sure but Iran and China (tiktok?) were pounding our social media with bullshit. 2. Low information voters: Influenced by disinformation but also convinced that things should be better. The economy left them behind which isn't really the dems fault. Possibly their fault for not identifying the issues that they should have delivered to them though. Harris was big on expanding the child tax credit but she should have said why over and over and fucking over again. 3. GenZ: still favored Harris but they were influenced by social media and enough moved to trump. They don't remember trump from 8 years ago. 4. trump is an enigma: A fucking moron but I'll give him credit for being a great actor driven by unbelievable narcissism.
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Harris was the sitting VP. Come on. You have to acknowledge that obviously changes things. Maybe they should have let Hillary run again? 😂
Senator Hillary Clinton (pre-emails and additional actions/inactions, etc that hurt her candidacy in 2016) lost the Dem primary in 2008 because of other reasons, so it's not outside the realm of possibility of her losing other elections (2016).
I don't recall what Senator Kamala Harris's popularity was in 2020 (when she didn't have one electoral vote), so it's not outside the realm of possibility that she would lose other elections (2024).
Vice President Harris having four years of experience as VP definitely made a positive difference for her as a candidate in 2024. I don't know how she would've fared in an open primary, but if she lost, by lack of votes by Dems, would it be okay because the Dems said no thanks, but in a general election her loss is not okay?
hard to have any delegates when you drop out before Iowa.
Very.
The support was not there for her from the Democrat party and Democrat voters in that primary and that's okay, but losing in a general election is not okay because of other factors?
yes, top of ticket 100 days out. a county or two in Pa and Maricopa Az are conducting an inquiry in the counting process as there were some glitches at that critical time. Fuckstick made certain statements suggesting shenanigans.
imo she and walz left it all on the field
nothing to be ashamed of imo.
The primary thing is so funny to me. I love how these people just gloss over the fact that she was on the ticket in 2020 when they won the election.
My point is for President in 2020 there were several candidates that Democrats preferred to then Senator Harris for whatever reasons, so when it came to the presidential general election in 2024, it shouldn't be a surprise that she wasn't the preferred candidate for the same and additional reasons.
The party got behind it though. It also seems like campaign finance laws may have had something to do with it. Since she was already on the ticket, etc.
Regardless...not her fault that too many dumbasses either didn't vote or voted for Cheeto fuckface
True. She was able to keep the money which was very important to the campaign.
I have to ask though, if it wasn't her fault that millions of people didn't vote as did in 2020, especially as it was against the existential threat that is Trump (thread integrity 😉), then whose fault is it?
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Harris was the sitting VP. Come on. You have to acknowledge that obviously changes things. Maybe they should have let Hillary run again? 😂
Senator Hillary Clinton (pre-emails and additional actions/inactions, etc that hurt her candidacy in 2016) lost the Dem primary in 2008 because of other reasons, so it's not outside the realm of possibility of her losing other elections (2016).
I don't recall what Senator Kamala Harris's popularity was in 2020 (when she didn't have one electoral vote), so it's not outside the realm of possibility that she would lose other elections (2024).
Vice President Harris having four years of experience as VP definitely made a positive difference for her as a candidate in 2024. I don't know how she would've fared in an open primary, but if she lost, by lack of votes by Dems, would it be okay because the Dems said no thanks, but in a general election her loss is not okay?
hard to have any delegates when you drop out before Iowa.
Very.
The support was not there for her from the Democrat party and Democrat voters in that primary and that's okay, but losing in a general election is not okay because of other factors?
yes, top of ticket 100 days out. a county or two in Pa and Maricopa Az are conducting an inquiry in the counting process as there were some glitches at that critical time. Fuckstick made certain statements suggesting shenanigans.
imo she and walz left it all on the field
nothing to be ashamed of imo.
The primary thing is so funny to me. I love how these people just gloss over the fact that she was on the ticket in 2020 when they won the election.
My point is for President in 2020 there were several candidates that Democrats preferred to then Senator Harris for whatever reasons, so when it came to the presidential general election in 2024, it shouldn't be a surprise that she wasn't the preferred candidate for the same and additional reasons.
The party got behind it though. It also seems like campaign finance laws may have had something to do with it. Since she was already on the ticket, etc.
Regardless...not her fault that too many dumbasses either didn't vote or voted for Cheeto fuckface
True. She was able to keep the money which was very important to the campaign.
I have to ask though, if it wasn't her fault that millions of people didn't vote as did in 2020, especially as it was against the existential threat that is Trump (thread integrity 😉), then whose fault is it?
the non-voters?
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If you wonder why your food prices go up this year, this will likely be one reason why. This was one of the most ignorant, foolish acts of this clown's career.
Trump's 2.2 billion-gallon dump from California reservoirs just got even uglier
The Washington Post snagged a memo written by an Army Corps of Engineers official who worked on the releases
Excerpts from the article:
The three-day release from Lake Kaweah and Lake Success by the Army Corp
of Engineers was water that’s typically saved for the drier, hotter
growing season, as SFGATE reported at the time.
The idea that Southern California’s overall water supply hindered
firefighting efforts during the Palisades and Eaton fires has been
roundly rejected
by experts. And vitally, the outlets of Lake Kaweah and Lake Success,
which are just west of the Sierra Nevada and manage water for farms in
the eastern San Joaquin Valley, are not set up for sending water far
south.
Rep. Jim Costa, a Democrat who represents a chunk of the San Joaquin Valley, wrote in a Feb. 1 letter
to Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth that the releases — coming as they
did when there’s little demand for irrigation, as well as a low snowpack
— pose “grave threats to a reliable water supply this year.”
"Don't give in to the lies. Don't give in to the fear. Hold on to the truth. And to hope."
If you wonder why your food prices go up this year, this will likely be one reason why. This was one of the most ignorant, foolish acts of this clown's career.
Trump's 2.2 billion-gallon dump from California reservoirs just got even uglier
The Washington Post snagged a memo written by an Army Corps of Engineers official who worked on the releases
Excerpts from the article:
The three-day release from Lake Kaweah and Lake Success by the Army Corp
of Engineers was water that’s typically saved for the drier, hotter
growing season, as SFGATE reported at the time.
The idea that Southern California’s overall water supply hindered
firefighting efforts during the Palisades and Eaton fires has been
roundly rejected
by experts. And vitally, the outlets of Lake Kaweah and Lake Success,
which are just west of the Sierra Nevada and manage water for farms in
the eastern San Joaquin Valley, are not set up for sending water far
south.
Rep. Jim Costa, a Democrat who represents a chunk of the San Joaquin Valley, wrote in a Feb. 1 letter
to Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth that the releases — coming as they
did when there’s little demand for irrigation, as well as a low snowpack
— pose “grave threats to a reliable water supply this year.”
I was reading that yesterday....really fucking stupid and textbook trump
and the worst part? he'll brag about it until he dies and the magats will applaud him for it
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018) The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
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Harris was the sitting VP. Come on. You have to acknowledge that obviously changes things. Maybe they should have let Hillary run again? 😂
Not in 2020.
Not what in 2020?
Harris wasn’t VP in 2020. She was a senator when chosen to run with Brandon and she didn’t have any primary delegates or victories as a POTUS candidate. I think that was the point DE was trying to make.
I know. I was referring to 2024.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
Harris was the sitting VP. Come on. You have to acknowledge that obviously changes things. Maybe they should have let Hillary run again? 😂
Senator Hillary Clinton (pre-emails and additional actions/inactions, etc that hurt her candidacy in 2016) lost the Dem primary in 2008 because of other reasons, so it's not outside the realm of possibility of her losing other elections (2016).
I don't recall what Senator Kamala Harris's popularity was in 2020 (when she didn't have one electoral vote), so it's not outside the realm of possibility that she would lose other elections (2024).
Vice President Harris having four years of experience as VP definitely made a positive difference for her as a candidate in 2024. I don't know how she would've fared in an open primary, but if she lost, by lack of votes by Dems, would it be okay because the Dems said no thanks, but in a general election her loss is not okay?
hard to have any delegates when you drop out before Iowa.
Very.
The support was not there for her from the Democrat party and Democrat voters in that primary and that's okay, but losing in a general election is not okay because of other factors?
yes, top of ticket 100 days out. a county or two in Pa and Maricopa Az are conducting an inquiry in the counting process as there were some glitches at that critical time. Fuckstick made certain statements suggesting shenanigans.
imo she and walz left it all on the field
nothing to be ashamed of imo.
The primary thing is so funny to me. I love how these people just gloss over the fact that she was on the ticket in 2020 when they won the election.
My point is for President in 2020 there were several candidates that Democrats preferred to then Senator Harris for whatever reasons, so when it came to the presidential general election in 2024, it shouldn't be a surprise that she wasn't the preferred candidate for the same and additional reasons.
The party got behind it though. It also seems like campaign finance laws may have had something to do with it. Since she was already on the ticket, etc.
Regardless...not her fault that too many dumbasses either didn't vote or voted for Cheeto fuckface
True. She was able to keep the money which was very important to the campaign.
I have to ask though, if it wasn't her fault that millions of people didn't vote as did in 2020, especially as it was against the existential threat that is Trump (thread integrity 😉), then whose fault is it?
Non-voters and COOTWH voters. And the repub party for selling their souls for COOTWH. Could have run “normalcy” but ran “burn it all down” instead. Now the folks who voted for it should own it.
If you wonder why your food prices go up this year, this will likely be one reason why. This was one of the most ignorant, foolish acts of this clown's career.
Trump's 2.2 billion-gallon dump from California reservoirs just got even uglier
The Washington Post snagged a memo written by an Army Corps of Engineers official who worked on the releases
Excerpts from the article:
The three-day release from Lake Kaweah and Lake Success by the Army Corp
of Engineers was water that’s typically saved for the drier, hotter
growing season, as SFGATE reported at the time.
The idea that Southern California’s overall water supply hindered
firefighting efforts during the Palisades and Eaton fires has been
roundly rejected
by experts. And vitally, the outlets of Lake Kaweah and Lake Success,
which are just west of the Sierra Nevada and manage water for farms in
the eastern San Joaquin Valley, are not set up for sending water far
south.
Rep. Jim Costa, a Democrat who represents a chunk of the San Joaquin Valley, wrote in a Feb. 1 letter
to Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth that the releases — coming as they
did when there’s little demand for irrigation, as well as a low snowpack
— pose “grave threats to a reliable water supply this year.”
I was reading that yesterday....really fucking stupid and textbook trump
and the worst part? he'll brag about it until he dies and the magats will applaud him for it
Exactly! His incredibly lame-brained declaration was, “Today, 1.6 billion gallons and, in 3 days, it will be 5.2 billion
gallons. Everybody should be happy about this long fought Victory! I
only wish they listened to me six years ago – There would have been no
fire!”
Complete and utter bullshit!
"Don't give in to the lies. Don't give in to the fear. Hold on to the truth. And to hope."
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
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JFC.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Here are the findings. (1/10)
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
They also contract with states to find out when people die.
A week ago, the Trump Admin canceled both contracts with one state — Maine.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Made it really hard for me to understand what he was saying. Why would anyone use the name of the country like that without specifying that not every baker, farmer and fussball player in Germany started the war?
Or when they say ”Sweden has won this years eurovision song contest”. I didn’t personally win? Many of us didn’t? When ABBA won in -76 it was them four and their crew. Why doesn’t they specify that a lot of people in Sweden aren’t ABBA and should be excluded?
It’s so hard to understand.
And why are people in the Ukraine thread allowed to say ”Russia started the war” or ”Russia is the aggressor”. DO THEY REALLY MEAN EVERY RUSSIAN CITIZEN. STARTED THE WAR.
So no Brian. I wouldn’t argue that you as an individual is a threat to the whole world. I’m pretty sure you are removed from the sentiment that the US is a threat to the world.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
Which I'm guessing was also a bit confounding considering the rest of the world compresses their election process to a much shorter time. If the U.S. can generally be criticized as a whole for something, it is that we have a political system has become dysfunctional and that craves attention.
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
In '08 and a few times prior Democrats also preferred someone else to Joe Biden, but then also voted for him to win the 2020 election.
Before winning in '88 Republicans preferred someone else other than George HW Bush. He then went on to become president.
Before winning in '80 Republicans preferred someone else other than Ronald Regan. He then went on to become president.
Your point would be valid if context and history did not exist.
Regardless...not her fault that too many dumbasses either didn't vote or voted for Cheeto fuckface
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
You guys should focus on why he - with everything he has shown - can win in your country and what that entails, and not blame whoever normal was put against him for not meeting the criteria to get votes from fascist-enablers and supporters. Something odd about needing this superhuman-of-charisma to win when the other person can't even count to ten.
BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT SUPERHUMAN WAS BERNIE. WOOHOOOO.
My opinion...
1. Disinformation: mostly Russia I'm sure but Iran and China (tiktok?) were pounding our social media with bullshit.
2. Low information voters: Influenced by disinformation but also convinced that things should be better. The economy left them behind which isn't really the dems fault. Possibly their fault for not identifying the issues that they should have delivered to them though. Harris was big on expanding the child tax credit but she should have said why over and over and fucking over again.
3. GenZ: still favored Harris but they were influenced by social media and enough moved to trump. They don't remember trump from 8 years ago.
4. trump is an enigma: A fucking moron but I'll give him credit for being a great actor driven by unbelievable narcissism.
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
I have to ask though, if it wasn't her fault that millions of people didn't vote as did in 2020, especially as it was against the existential threat that is Trump (thread integrity 😉), then whose fault is it?
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
Trump's 2.2 billion-gallon dump from California reservoirs just got even uglier
The Washington Post snagged a memo written by an Army Corps of Engineers official who worked on the releases
and the worst part? he'll brag about it until he dies and the magats will applaud him for it
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
-EV 8/14/93
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