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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,108
    SHZA said:
    Get_Right said:
    SHZA said:
    Get_Right said:
    SHZA said:
    Get_Right said:
    SHZA said:
    Get_Right said:
    Bots have been a fan problem for many, many years. They have always been one step ahead. Which I find surprising since TM now wants to resell it own tickets for more money. You would think they could find the tech to block them. Interesting about TM holding up payment until the event. That is millions of dollars sitting in TM's account earning interest. Their greed never ends. 
    How is TM reselling it own tickets for more money?

    I guess I should have just said selling. 
    Still not sure what you mean by that. It's a distribution channel and collects fees on initial sales as well as resales but I'm not aware of TM having it's own tickets to sell. 

    Premium and dynamic pricing. All TM tickets sold at higher pricing.
    TM doesn't own the tickets. It makes money on the sale regardless of whether the buyer is a bot or a human. If brokers are buying them to flip, that just means the tickets were under priced. 

    Actually, if you ever read the fine print on the ticket there are licenses to attend an event and can be revoked by TM at anytime for any reason. Anyhow, the point is that TM is controlling the supply of tickets to the public so you would think they would do more stop the bots.
    The venue is authorized to cancel the license too but that doesn't mean TM owns the tickets. If bots snatch up all the standard tickets, don't you think that would help TM sell more premiums? 

    Not if the prices are lower than TM premium tickets. 
  • Chrrie
    Chrrie Posts: 435
    Ton of face value uppers for Atlanta 1&2 just dropped 
  • CO278952
    CO278952 Orlando, FL Posts: 1,451
    Chrrie said:
    Ton of face value uppers for Atlanta 1&2 just dropped 
    Same for Nashville 1
    4.17.94 Paramount 9.28.96 Randall's Island 8.25.00 Jones Beach 4.28.03 Spectrum 7.5.03 Camden 7.6.03 Camden 07.08.03 MSG 07.09.03 MSG 7.12.03 Hershey 7.14.03 Holmdel 6.12.08 Tampa 10.19.13 Brooklyn 4.11.16 Tampa 5.1.16 MSG 5.2.16 MSG 8.7.16 Fenway 9.2.18 Fenway 9.4.18 Fenway 9.11.22 MSG 9.16.22 Nashville 9.18.23 Austin 9.19.23 Austin 9.3.24 MSG 9.4.24 MSG Fenway 9.15.24 Fenway 9.17.24 Hollywood 4.24.25 Nashville 5.6.25 Nashville 5.8.25
  • Kwieneke
    Kwieneke Indiana Posts: 2,102
    Pittsburgh come on! Do your thing 
    Noblesville 5.7.2010. Lexington 4.26.2016. Nashville 9.16.2022. St Louis 9.18.2022.
    Chicago 1 9.5.2023. Chicago 2 9.7.2023. 
    *Noblesville 9.10.2023* (Gutted) 
    Seattle 5.30.2024  Noblesville 8.26.2024  Chicago 8.29.2024  Chicago 8.31.2024 
    Pittsburgh 5.16.2025 Pittsburgh 5.18.2025
  • tylermoore
    tylermoore St. Joseph, MI Posts: 1,113
    CO278952 said:
    Chrrie said:
    Ton of face value uppers for Atlanta 1&2 just dropped 
    Same for Nashville 1
    Okay now that amount is ridiculous. Almost half of the upper deck. So many casual turned away that would’ve bought tickets during the general sale. I know they’ll sell anyway, but that’s crazy… 
  • KJ228171
    KJ228171 Posts: 465
    danofun said:
    KJ228171 said:
    If they are delaying payment they best change that notice in the app and website. I’m pretty
    sure this is against some law.

    As of right now.

    "within 7 business days after the event."
    I did not see that but swear it was different last week when I at to go to that section. Going through the Sell option is the only way I know to get that seat  map with the arrow point at your set. I was sending seat locations to another show in September to a friend.

  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,314
    KJ228171 said:
    danofun said:
    KJ228171 said:
    If they are delaying payment they best change that notice in the app and website. I’m pretty
    sure this is against some law.

    As of right now.

    "within 7 business days after the event."
    I did not see that but swear it was different last week when I at to go to that section. Going through the Sell option is the only way I know to get that seat  map with the arrow point at your set. I was sending seat locations to another show in September to a friend.

    Can just click that map button 


  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,766
    tylermoore said:
    CO278952 said:
    Chrrie said:
    Ton of face value uppers for Atlanta 1&2 just dropped 
    Same for Nashville 1
    Okay now that amount is ridiculous. Almost half of the upper deck. So many casual turned away that would’ve bought tickets during the general sale. I know they’ll sell anyway, but that’s crazy… 
    Now do you believe me? 
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • danofun
    danofun Posts: 1,301
    KJ228171 said:
    danofun said:
    KJ228171 said:
    If they are delaying payment they best change that notice in the app and website. I’m pretty
    sure this is against some law.

    As of right now.

    "within 7 business days after the event."
    I did not see that but swear it was different last week when I at to go to that section. Going through the Sell option is the only way I know to get that seat  map with the arrow point at your set. I was sending seat locations to another show in September to a friend.

    As @JOEJOEJOE pointed out, it appears to be a recent policy change. They're the best...

    "We'll deposit your payout typically within 7 days after the event. If you listed your tickets prior to January 8, 2025, you can still expect to receive your payout typically within 5-7 days after your tickets are sold."
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    CO278952 said:
    Chrrie said:
    Ton of face value uppers for Atlanta 1&2 just dropped 
    Same for Nashville 1
    Omg so many tickets held back. Unreal

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • KJ228171
    KJ228171 Posts: 465
    edited January 30
    SHZA said:
    KJ228171 said:
    danofun said:
    KJ228171 said:
    If they are delaying payment they best change that notice in the app and website. I’m pretty
    sure this is against some law.

    As of right now.

    "within 7 business days after the event."
    I did not see that but swear it was different last week when I at to go to that section. Going through the Sell option is the only way I know to get that seat  map with the arrow point at your set. I was sending seat locations to another show in September to a friend.

    Can just click that map button 



    Yeah, if you log in to the website. It's not in the app.
    Post edited by KJ228171 on
  • KJ228171
    KJ228171 Posts: 465
    tylermoore said:
    CO278952 said:
    Chrrie said:
    Ton of face value uppers for Atlanta 1&2 just dropped 
    Same for Nashville 1
    Okay now that amount is ridiculous. Almost half of the upper deck. So many casual turned away that would’ve bought tickets during the general sale. I know they’ll sell anyway, but that’s crazy… 
    Lowers for Raleigh also dropped with price drops for N2. The price different between N1 and N2 for similar seats is between $400 and $500!

  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    Come on Pitt one!!!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • tylermoore
    tylermoore St. Joseph, MI Posts: 1,113
    edited January 30
    RatherStarved said:
    tylermoore said:
    CO278952 said:
    Chrrie said:
    Ton of face value uppers for Atlanta 1&2 just dropped 
    Same for Nashville 1
    Okay now that amount is ridiculous. Almost half of the upper deck. So many casual turned away that would’ve bought tickets during the general sale. I know they’ll sell anyway, but that’s crazy… 
    Now do you believe me? 
    About what exactly? I honestly don’t remember. My argument was regarding a fall tour helping/hurting ticket sales. 
    I didn’t disagree about ticket drops! Regarding amount of tickets maybe, I definitely haven’t seen one like that before. I usually only notice a few tickets here or there, or at most 1 or 2 full sections. 
    Weird strategy to wait for the general hype to die down and release half of the whole the upper deck (the worse half). I don’t think most of us on here are jumping on those tickets.  
  • julieooliern
    julieooliern Posts: 1,278
    mcgruff10 said:
    Come on Pitt one!!!
    YES!!!!
  • Davewise
    Davewise Lyndhurst, NJ Posts: 57
    I wonder when we’ll see any movement in Hollywood N1…
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,351
    Report coming tomorrow in my ticket thread over in GtF...

    A preview: "How to Completely Botch Nashville"




    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,351
    edited January 31
    Davewise said:
    I wonder when we’ll see any movement in Hollywood N1…
    Not likely. We're all guilty (unintentionally) in keeping the Premium price high. The amount of times a page is visited in the app, or website factors in to the price.

    That being said, if any blue dot Premiums are left on 04/24 they will start dropping to regular price sometime that day. It'll be dramatic & quick.
    Post edited by Go Animal on
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • RS151862
    RS151862 Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,725
    This is gonna get me suspended again. Right before they drop 1000 pgh tickets 
    Pittsburgh 1998 • Pittsburgh 2006 • 2012 Isle Of Wight Festival • 2012 Made In America Festival • Baltimore 2013 • Seattle 2013
    St. Paul 2014 • Mexico City 2015 • Philadelphia II 2016 • Ottawa 2016 • Amsterdam I & II 2018 • Wrigley Field II 2018 • Phoenix 2022
    Apollo Theater 2022 • Chicago I 2023 • Baltimore 2024 • Pittsburgh I & II 2025

  • steven87
    steven87 Posts: 1,722
    Go Animal said:
    Report coming tomorrow in my ticket thread over in GtF...

    A preview: "How to Completely Botch Nashville"




    Unbelievable… but yet totally believable. This is the new normal. 
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